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RAY of HOPE 53rd Draw (Predictions)

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Do you think,

1. those who are waiting for so long for ITA (At least 1 year old) does not know about this forum?
2. If they know about this forum, then those applicants in 400+ would not be active when scores are dropping and they stand the chance?
3. At-least, most of the candidates in 430+ brackets would have butterflies in their belly where they see a ray of hope.

Yes, all those guys who were in 400+ in November 2015, December 2015, January 2016 and February 2016 have moved on with their nominations and ITA. All those 400+ who entered the pool after February 15th, 2016 should be quite active or otherwise, they would have got other mediums like other province PNP, bettered the score and moved to 460+, LMIA in last one year etc.

My only submission is that the ray of hope and 400 - 450 threads are not that active besides few. This definitely have some indicators.
 

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Pawshi said:
Do you think,

1. those who are waiting for so long for ITA (At least 1 year old) does not know about this forum?
2. If they know about this forum, then those applicants in 400+ would not be active when scores are dropping and they stand the chance?
3. At-least, most of the candidates in 430+ brackets would have butterflies in their belly where they see a ray of hope.

Yes, all those guys who were in 400+ in November 2015, December 2015, January 2016 and February 2016 have moved on with their nominations and ITA. All those 400+ who entered the pool after February 15th, 2016 should be quite active or otherwise, they would have got other mediums like other province PNP, bettered the score and moved to 460+, LMIA in last one year etc.

My only submission is that the ray of hope and 400 - 450 threads are not that active besides few. This definitely have some indicators.
You might be correct but I personally know a few people around me who have either applied for Canadian PR or have already received their PR but never knew about this forum. However, what the non-activeness of this particular thread may mean is that on this forum, the number of people with CRS greater than 450 are higher than the number of people who have CRS less than 450.
 

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Pawshi said:
Astralsource -

Please refer the link for the details on the pool size.

http://www.cicnews.com/2016/11/express-entry-human-capital-skills-experience-more-prominent-under-new-system-118705.html

October 3 snapshot of the pool

As of October 3, there had been 20 rounds of invitations (draws) so far in 2016. The snapshot of the pool on that date revealed that:

There were 60,689 candidates active in the pool.
A total of 20,588 ITAs had been issued to 19,088 individual candidates over the first 20 draws of 2016. (Note: some candidates may obtain more than one ITA. For example, if they receive an ITA but don’t feel ready to apply, they may re-enter the pool and be issued another ITA at a later date.)
From January to September, 2016, a total of 25,406 Express Entry candidates or their accompanying family members landed in Canada as permanent residents.
From this glimpse into the pool, it is apparent that around one in every four candidates who was actively engaged in the Express Entry system over the first nine months of 2016 received an ITA. Indeed, there have been four further draws since October 3, and the number of ITAs issued has nearly doubled from 1,288 (September 21 draw) to 2,427 on November 16.
I see your point.. then its not bulked up like some people think. And from the year end report 2015 we get the information that there was 13,537 candidates 400-449.. Also for CRS 450-499 there was only 1,613 candidates!

But many of the students went beyond 450 after changing the rules.. and they were picked up so pressure on the 400-449 should be even smaller now!
 

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My question is simple. Lets assume for a moment that there are not many people between 400- 450. Lets also assume that scores will eventually come down to 430. How will it make sense for anyone to go for ONIP then? Wont CIC keep ONIP in mind when it comes to controlling the scores so that it doesn't affect ONIPs revenue potential and quotas? ONIP is a big money spinner for Ontario!

I might be wrong but I think CIC does want scores to go low for sure and one of the ways was to do big draws back to back. But they may not want it go very low too where it starts affecting PNPs.

I have no data to back this up but I feel they wont let it go very low and might control ITAs to ensure it never goes down to 410 etc. I hope I am wrong but it doesnt make sense to steal from ONIP!

Of course with CIC and ONIP, anything can happen. ONIP can even change to NOC based. Anything is possible! And I hope all I said above is wrong!
 

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The big question which no one knows is - How low can it go? How low is low!
 

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My question is simple. Lets assume for a moment that there are not many people between 400- 450. Lets also assume that scores will eventually come down to 430. How will it make sense for anyone to go for ONIP then? Wont CIC keep ONIP in mind when it comes to controlling the scores so that it doesn't affect ONIPs revenue potential and quotas? ONIP is a big money spinner for Ontario!

I might be wrong but I think CIC does want scores to go low for sure and one of the ways was to do big draws back to back. But they may not want it go very low too where it starts affecting PNPs.

I have no data to back this up but I feel they wont let it go very low and might control ITAs to ensure it never goes down to 410 etc. I hope I am wrong but it doesnt make sense to steal from ONIP!

Of course with CIC and ONIP, anything can happen. ONIP can even change to NOC based. Anything is possible! And I hope all I said above is wrong!
That is exactly what I have been saying all along. They won't allow it to go too low. But none of us really know the exact definition of too low.
 

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johnsyk said:
My question is simple. Lets assume for a moment that there are not many people between 400- 450. Lets also assume that scores will eventually come down to 430. How will it make sense for anyone to go for ONIP then? Wont CIC keep ONIP in mind when it comes to controlling the scores so that it doesn't affect ONIPs revenue potential and quotas? ONIP is a big money spinner for Ontario!

I might be wrong but I think CIC does want scores to go low for sure and one of the ways was to do big draws back to back. But they may not want it go very low too where it starts affecting PNPs.

I have no data to back this up but I feel they wont let it go very low and might control ITAs to ensure it never goes down to 410 etc. I hope I am wrong but it doesnt make sense to steal from ONIP!

Of course with CIC and ONIP, anything can happen. ONIP can even change to NOC based. Anything is possible! And I hope all I said above is wrong!
OINP will probably change CRS requirements or even a list of occupations in demand like SINP, NSNP.. But I think everyone 400+ are considered a good catch. Then those below 400 would be a PNP material.

That is what I have concluded from their presentation.. when you analyse the numbers.. but I cant predict how much students went from below 400 to 400+ with the new changes.
 

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astralsource said:
OINP will probably change CRS requirements or even a list of occupations in demand like SINP, NSNP.. But I think everyone 400+ are considered a good catch. Then those below 400 would be a PNP material.

That is what I have concluded from their presentation.. when you analyse the numbers..
Lets hope for that! That would be awesome if it happens!
 

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Please watch this video and focus on 5:20 to 10 mins.....He talked about that ITA for 2017 should be around 50000+. And there would be 12 to 14 draws in next six months.

:D ;D
 

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Link please! 8)
 

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I thought about OINP, what I ve said before.. and I think there is no point involving occupations in demand like other provinces, Ontario program was and still is the only one based on Human capital and it should stay like this, with only change in CRS points needed. I think CIC thinks the same, OINP will stay OINP with minor adjustments to serve new EE rules..
 

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Pawshi said:
Please watch this video and focus on 5:20 to 10 mins.....He talked about that ITA for 2017 should be around 50000+. And there would be 12 to 14 draws in next six months.

:D ;D
Please post the link.
 

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I thought about OINP, what I ve said before.. and I think there is no point involving occupations in demand like other provinces, Ontario program was and still is the only one based on Human capital and it should stay like this, with only change in CRS points needed. I think CIC thinks the same, OINP will stay OINP with minor adjustments to serve new EE rules..
When it gonna be next draw for EE? and I think its gonna be 452 next....

Thanks
 

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Hello guys,

I have a CRS of 451 today, I will loose 5 points as of my birthday on feb 12th.

Any chance I might receive the ITA before my application expires on april 6th?

Thanks for the help!
 

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gff said:
Hello guys,

I have a CRS of 451 today, I will loose 5 points as of my birthday on feb 12th.

Any chance I might receive the ITA before my application expires on april 6th?

Thanks for the help!
Well have the same points. Yes before April definitely. 5-6 draws until April it must come down.