If you have no intention of landing in Nova Scotia, then you should decline the PNP for Nova Scotia. They are giving it to you, to go to Nova Scotia. Not leave and head to Toronto.bala1980 said:
But you do what you have to do.
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But you do what you have to do.
I seem to have become famous on this forumfatani said:
I have been in the pool since June 2015 with 441 points. My old EE profile expired and my points increased from 441 to 481 in my new profile created on 14th July 2016 after I got my Masters ECA in July 2016think0911 said:
Yes, the tragedy of it... So near, and yet so far... Think I should get married.Lucky213 said:Whats happening damha sirah...................after getting so near.......still so far......
As far as I know You cant apply for OINP directly, they send PT of interest so it is not in the hand of any individual to go and apply. 40+ can bring expereince on the table but what canada needs is more important, look by giving away max points to a person who is in the range of 20-29 they are clearly showing they need youth and young people. Thats why I said this, because its feel like double standard at one point they say they need young people young and on the other hand young applicants are suffering. I am not against PNP programs or OINP I just want to say that they should Invite them separately. So it remains fair for the young applicants as well. Or otherwise give max points for 21-39 age range so then young applicants have time by this they cant get demotivated if anyone of them turns 30-35.johnsyk said:
Thing is that at the same time you get max. points with 6+ years of work experience combine with PHD studies. Put there the age below 29 and you have practicaly impossible combination there.
As you will either get low age and highest education but not enough work experience
or age and work experience but your education will be suffering
or you have education and experience but not the age anymore.
Now given the current point levels for last few draws, that gives practicaly no chance to people without any Canadian connections (work, studies, family). They will suffer with above mentioned paradox, where points on one or other scale will be cut down. And 483 is way too close to the max of achievable points.
As you will either get low age and highest education but not enough work experience
or age and work experience but your education will be suffering
or you have education and experience but not the age anymore.
Now given the current point levels for last few draws, that gives practicaly no chance to people without any Canadian connections (work, studies, family). They will suffer with above mentioned paradox, where points on one or other scale will be cut down. And 483 is way too close to the max of achievable points.
I agree that the points are way too high at the moment. However I think this just might be a short term thing. This is due to a range of reasons including PNPs and previous backlog. My feeling is that by middle of next year, things will settle in and you will have more realistic range of scores.
Not everyone has Canadian experience so that's a limited number of people. At some point, those will start drying up. They are planning to make changes where Canadian educated students get additional points. At some point, that backlog will end too. Once you have less people with Canadian connections applying, you are left with average folks between 400 and 470 and who might all have a shot at getting ITA at some point. When? How? No one knows.
However this is all speculation again based on what the above poster just said - Not everyone can score 485+ without PNP or Canadian connections so its not sustainable in the long term. Of course, knowing how things are here, it is only a matter of time before they change Express entry rules as well so all this logic will be out of the window.
I think 2017 will be an interesting year. It will be the 3rd year of Express Entry. The first 2 years did not have 100% intake through EXPRESS entry since they had to accommodate backlogs too. in 2017, we expect all intakes from Express entry. Since the liberals want more immigration, we can only expect that the system will be more easier and better and not tougher! Lets hope for the best.
Everyone with a 400+ gets a PT invite as far as I know which is fair. Applicants with less than 400 need to re-do their IELTS to score above 400 for Express Entry. To be honest, if you have less than 400 in Express Entry, at this point of time, your chances of getting an ITA are nil.fatani said:
The biggest blow is if they make ONIP NOC specific this year or they raising the ONIP minimum score too high. That's my biggest fear. I see so many dreams shattering then!
What I meant is that some applicants with jobs like cooks and meat choppers, CRS 300, ielts 6.0 and low education are lucky enough to have their jobs in in-demand list and they have advantage over those with white collar jobs that are not in in-demand list, CRS 450-480, masters degree, ielts 9.0. I'm not saying that some professions are better than others, it's just luck that some are in-demand. And to my mind OINP is more fair as there is no in-demand list and it gives a fair chance to everyone with CRS 400+. And if I applied a year ago I would have been nominated already, but due to circumstances I managed to have doc-s ready only this year and that's my fault.fatani said:
Lets hope they don't change ONIP rules this year! I'm the same situation as you. Waiting for ONIP to start.
Yes, some people got lucky last year with 450 scores. The CRS cut off last year in October was 450! If I had my profile up a year back, I would have got my PR by now! But that's life! A lot of it is just plain luck!
Same! OINP me please!
Sat at 440 points here (down from 445 in April because it seems at 30 I'm getting on a bit...)
I don't understand that their optimal candidate is 28 years old with a PHD and at least 3 years experience in a high level field that you usually have to build up to.
So you have an 18 year old, 7 years for a PHD, so 25, then 1 year of working your way up to a fantastic high level job. Oh, and also being fluent in English AND French.
Come on guys, your average Canadian likely has a Bachelors at most. Why expect more from foreigners if your own people can't live up to the standards??? </rant>
Sat at 440 points here (down from 445 in April because it seems at 30 I'm getting on a bit...)
I don't understand that their optimal candidate is 28 years old with a PHD and at least 3 years experience in a high level field that you usually have to build up to.
So you have an 18 year old, 7 years for a PHD, so 25, then 1 year of working your way up to a fantastic high level job. Oh, and also being fluent in English AND French.
Come on guys, your average Canadian likely has a Bachelors at most. Why expect more from foreigners if your own people can't live up to the standards??? </rant>
And to make things worse, the average Canadian with a Bachelors has a respectable white collar job. While the highly skilled immigrant with a masters and 6 years experience is flipping burgers!
Yup.
My boyfriend is an Aeronautical Engineer by trade (degree, 5.5 years experience). However when we first went over to Canada on working holiday he shovelled snow and drove busses (got his license over there).
Now he stands more chance getting an LMIA as a bus driver than for his actual skills. It's so frustrating!
I have a Computing degree with 3 years working at the Ministry of Defence as a Cost analyst (falls under 2171 really) but while there I was a Retail Supervisor.
Ugh. It's like we have to dumb down to stand more of a chance.
My boyfriend is an Aeronautical Engineer by trade (degree, 5.5 years experience). However when we first went over to Canada on working holiday he shovelled snow and drove busses (got his license over there).
Now he stands more chance getting an LMIA as a bus driver than for his actual skills. It's so frustrating!
I have a Computing degree with 3 years working at the Ministry of Defence as a Cost analyst (falls under 2171 really) but while there I was a Retail Supervisor.
Ugh. It's like we have to dumb down to stand more of a chance.
FYI my LMIA was refused BECAUSE of my degree (over qualified) so we had to leave.
Luckily I got a year as a supervisor under my belt there so qualify as CEC and FSW.
But still... nbring on those PNP's!
Luckily I got a year as a supervisor under my belt there so qualify as CEC and FSW.
But still... nbring on those PNP's!
Ok,Pat180715 said:
I would not agree with this. It is up to Canada to say what is better for them - if people under skilled trades which are lacking in the country / province and most likely will hit a job fast.
Or a highly educated white collar, that might be struggling to hit a proper job offer and end up in heavily underemployed.
First one will be rather happy and seeing his carrer and life rising while the second one might be highly disapointed seeing his potential wasted.
Economical imigrant is just what it is. If you are needed you will be invited and if not, then Canada owes you nothing.
It is not about saving you from misery of your current life or making your dreams come true. It is about offer and demand system. You offer your services (in this case qualification mixed with languages) and they will say if it is needed and offer you certain possibilities.
In this view all systems have logic (general point system, in demand occupations or education and even first come first serve system) depending whom they want to see immigrate.