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More than 5000 pnps issued by SINP since mid September + many more by other states. So roughly about 8000 people will be coming in the pool with 600+ score.
 
I am at 464, will lose 5 points on Nov 26 :(

feeling hopeless. Can jump to 470 with max IELTS. Should I go for it?
If there’s anything you CAN do, then just don’t wait wasting time. Before this August I thought 458 was a safe score but I still asked my spouse to sit an IELTS test and with this extra 10 points from IELTS, we got our ITA before the cut-off went up insanely. Do what you can do so you won’t regret in the future.
 
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CRS score distribution of candidates in the Express Entry pool as of November 8, 2019
CRS score range Number of candidates
601-1,200
757
451-600
14,180
401-450
40,729
441-450
9,060
431-440 10,009
421-430 6,639
411-420 7,002
401-410 8,019
351-400 46,577
391-400
8,222
381-390 9,885
371-380 9,662
361-370 9,675
351-360 9,133
301-350 26,501
0-300
3,777
Total 132,521
There are some positives I must say. This time the 601 and above are just 757 compared to the 1255 they were in the last draw ( and That's a huge chunk of the allotted 3,900 invitations from the October draw). So the implication is that the 601s, 1000s and above have been cleared alongside the 475+ with this round of draw.

Another positive, PNPs are slowing down due to end of year. So, No matter the additions of new profiles, the CRS score will continue dropping till end of Dec.

Now, what we can't say for sure is what the final score will be by the last draw in Dec but I reckon it'll be a favourable thing.

It's a good thing the draw happened today. It would have been a disaster if it didn't. So chin up guys:)
 
lol what's wrong with them...you can get one too if you are lucky
I am An outland applicant, got CLB 9 at first attempt, my wife got CLB 9 At first attempt, have science and engineering degrees, +6 years international engineering experience, and stuck at 464. I am not as lucky as those at 400s with 10 ielts try who finally get pnp because they are inland. Unfortunately...
 
I read somewhere, Their target is 256000 per year 2020 and out of it 200000 will be done by PNP only, So thats how they maintain higher cut off and push people to to accept PNP of their choice, So score is not coming down to 450s ever. They will keep it high forever, In best case scenario it can be as low as 460.
 
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There are some positives I must say. This time the 601 and above are just 757 compared to the 1255 they were in the last draw ( and That's a huge chunk of the allotted 3,900 invitations from the October draw). So the implication is that the 601s, 1000s and above have been cleared alongside the 475+ with this round of draw.

Another positive, PNPs are slowing down due to end of year. So, No matter the additions of new profiles, the CRS score will continue dropping till end of Dec.

Now, what we can't say for sure is what the final score will be by the last draw in Dec but I reckon it'll be a favourable thing.

It's a good thing the draw happened today. It would have been a disaster if it didn't. So chin up guys:)
yes you are right but they do not want score to come down thats why they reduced ITA, PNP effect is going down so they want higher cut off on purpose. It will never go down to 455-457 with current trend.
 
There are some positives I must say. This time the 601 and above are just 757 compared to the 1255 they were in the last draw ( and That's a huge chunk of the allotted 3,900 invitations from the October draw). So the implication is that the 601s, 1000s and above have been cleared alongside the 475+ with this round of draw.

Another positive, PNPs are slowing down due to end of year. So, No matter the additions of new profiles, the CRS score will continue dropping till end of Dec.

Now, what we can't say for sure is what the final score will be by the last draw in Dec but I reckon it'll be a favourable thing.

It's a good thing the draw happened today. It would have been a disaster if it didn't. So chin up guys:)

With the recent invitations for pnp like sinp, dont you think this 601+ number will definitely rise to highest ever in next 2-3 months?
 
Why so gloomy everyone? This draw actually should be good news for most. If they do another one in two weeks the score will even drop more than that. I think by next year we'll get back to the 460-465 range. This will be the new norm. Thank god we saw a draw today no matter what the CRS was.
 
I am An outland applicant, got CLB 9 at first attempt, my wife got CLB 9 At first attempt, have science and engineering degrees, +6 years international engineering experience, and stuck at 464. I am not as lucky as those at 400s with 10 ielts try who finally get pnp because they are inland. Unfortunately...

Not all PNPs requires Canadian experience.
Outland applicants can also get PNP invitations... You might want to do some research on their websites and see if your/your spouse’s NOC is on any of the in-demand lists. And 464 still has a chance at year end or maybe early 2020 if you are not losing aging points very soon.
 
The reason for reducing the draw size could be either they would conduct back to back draws or they are done for the year and would consider clearing the backlog rather than issuing more itas as they are not able to handle the work pressure.