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Ray of Hope - 130th Draw

mrs.Saifee

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Dec 13, 2018
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Our score would change to 454 after 7th Nov...any idea when wld the crs score drop to this...after clearing so many attempt and finally getting through IELTS we loose 5points...it's like our hard work goes in waste.
Dont worry..you have a chance next year plus any pnp can call you up..
do.you have any other means to up your crs?
 

aikay

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Aug 8, 2019
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man, i have so much anxiety waiting at 461. Trying to keep busy and telling myself, it's only 5 weeks we have to wait till the week of dec 18th (possibly last draw of year)...so that should be our moment of truth...
Me too , my score is 462 , and am really nervous about it ... I’m just statin positive. And hoping we scale tru within the next 2\3draws
 

VKA

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Sep 26, 2019
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Guys one question, I hired a reputable immigration consultancy office to take care of my application, but I was talking to them today and they said that I don't have an individual account to log in to because I am in their portal that is dealing with Express Entry. They say it is an authorized portal for the IRCC registered members.

Does this make sense? I am just being extra careful here.
In my opinion, if you are dealing with a certified and legitimate firm, they preferably log in on behalf of their clients through their website portal, which is connected directly to IRCC’s website. If you have any doubts regarding the authenticity of the company, ask them for their license number and look it up at IRCC’s licensed agents list. Perhaps you’ll find them if the company is listed by the same parent company’s name.
Good luck.
 

Klaverveld

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May 19, 2019
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Make sure you enter high school details in personal history section not in education section. Everything in education section needs to be supported by an ECA if the study was outside Canada
Thank you for your reply!
It's not that I want to send anything from my high school... But I wonder if they will ask us to send our diploma.
For Alberta pnp they asked soms questions about it and if we need to send it with our application we need to get it evaluated/translated as soon as possible because we can't get that done in the 60days after ITA.
 

Nandita16

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Oct 17, 2019
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Dont worry..you have a chance next year plus any pnp can call you up..
do.you have any other means to up your crs?
I am planning to give ielts but wld only go till 460 max however we r eligible for Saskatchewan but our score is 65 and waiting for it to go down and Manitoba but andwe don't have any close connect... we have kept put options open...let's and hope for the best
 

ahsanshahbaz

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Jan 22, 2019
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Guys one question, I hired a reputable immigration consultancy office to take care of my application, but I was talking to them today and they said that I don't have an individual account to log in to because I am in their portal that is dealing with Express Entry. They say it is an authorized portal for the IRCC registered members.

Does this make sense? I am just being extra careful here.
Totally make sense all approved Canadian consultants including the one that own this forum have a portal login given to them by IRCC. They can share with you screenshots of your profile and Different PDF communications such as confirmation, job bank id etc. They cant give you their portal login as they manage multiple profiles under their Consulting account for all clients.

If your consultant is as famous as you claim you can ask for RCIC Membership ID then go on RCIC website and check their status.
 
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Pato46

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Nov 4, 2019
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Hello, I am a Specialist Physician, I completed my training in Chile and subsequently made two Fellows at the University of Toronto. For the IRCC the Specialist Physicioan have a PHD degree? I ask because the only thing that appears is a Doctor of Medicine has a Master's degree
 

ahsanshahbaz

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Jan 22, 2019
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I agree 2017 and 2018 there were 20 odd % more ITA issued versus the PR target, all i am saying is we do not have the evidence that this theory will hold good this year too, as this year things are very different.

Till now 7.5K pnp's have taken ITA's based on the table that I presented before, respective of OINP EOI or SINP EOI, this number of 7.5k will not climb to 12k under any circumstances, what our fellow friend suggested as a range of 12k to 15k before has no evidence even from previous years pool data.. The evidence we have from the pool data of 2019 which i represented before suggests 7.5k approx till now and another 1.6k max by december end is the assumption looking at the pnp numbers on that table, so total 9.1k approx.

You are perfectly right in saying the suspense ends on Nov 6th partially, so lets all wait and watch.
There will be draw on 6th. Let’s stay positive. This a ray of hope thread. Realism is good but Hope is what we all need. By 27th Nov we will know how it will end. Consider it my prediction, wishful thinking, or false hope but my gut feeling tells me 5-6 draws will be conducted from now till 31 December.

Why give hope? Including me I know everyone here who can increase score is trying their best. This effort to improve score comes from acceptance of reality. Once you have accepted reality you need to get hopeful and spread positive vibes to motivate those who have no margin to improve. A bit positive talk here would help put their mind at ease.

Now for the PNP data you shared. I am not sure since how long have you been tracking these threads. I have been doing it since May. There was always bulk pnps one or two days before draw those numbers we never know how much. Data you shared is published ircc data i.e 5 days older

Assuming your PNP estimate is correct. Ontario has issued 6033 nominations to HCP pnp which is EE based pnp program? Are you saying ontario is the only pnp impacting the pool I think you need to revisit all the threads to get any meaningful data to estimate actual PNP number.
 

ahsanshahbaz

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Jan 22, 2019
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You have quoted ..."SINP will be very quiet next year with EOI?" they have a comprehensive list of NOC's from september, and under no circumstances will they stop issuing EOI's going forward.

Also the link that you shared with all of us over here , please check the same link says very clearly, federal overall target is anywhere between 76000-86000 (Low to high) there is no guarantee IRCC will stick to 81400, none of us can predict they will stick to XYZ annual target number and add 20% over that and say the ABC number of ITA's are pending in the last 2 months of this year.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/notices/supplementary-immigration-levels-2019.html

Here is an eye opener for you, the 12k to 15k number that you are saying for pnp linked via express entry is totally false. Browse through all the Ray of Hope threads, total the number of people above 600 score this year and you will be shocked to see the results yourself. (This will give you an idea even though if it is not a 100% exact calculation)

Thread Name with Candidates with 600 plus scores and Remarks
130th RAY OF HOPE 1255
129th RAY OF HOPE 509 FST only
128th RAY OF HOPE 579
127th RAY OF HOPE 420
126th RAY OF HOPE 395
125th RAY OF HOPE 127
124th RAY OF HOPE 474
123rd RAY OF HOPE 262
122nd RAY OF HOPE 312
121st RAY OF HOPE 285
120th RAY OF HOPE 288
119th RAY OF HOPE 729
118th RAY OF HOPE 317 FST only
117th RAY OF HOPE 279
116th RAY OF HOPE 273
115th RAY OF HOPE 246
114th RAY OF HOPE 209
113rd RAY OF HOPE 253
112nd RAY OF HOPE 438
111th RAY OF HOPE 300 no recorded data taken Approx number
110th RAY OF HOPE 181
109th RAY OF HOPE 284

Total number on PNP's
invited via express entry in 2019 7589



Its better to be prepared for the worst and if something positive happens cheer about it.
This sentence is very true with the way things have turned out in 2019 so far because in reality look on top PnP have not hit the pool hard, its actually just the high scoring candidates and its the pattern/trend of the draws that are conducted.
I never claimed that I am an insider or know more then many here. I can be wrong. What I said before I wrote those numbers was according to my assumption not an absolute truth. I was just putting my point of view out there you can agree or disagree. Like I mentioned in my previous post you need to revisit your data it is incorrect and 5 days old numbers. OINP and AINP two I know for sure always issued nominations 2-3 days before the draw and in huge bulk numbers that never got reported in any of the published numbers as shared by you. Change in OINP released total nomination from September to October was around 1000 alone for example please view my post in previous thread on OINP nominations.

I would now rest this discussion as it is no longer constructive or spreading any hope. Lets just wait till 27th November. Lets keep our fingers crossed what we all want right now and I have firm belief that we will achieve is the golden ITA. Either in 2019 or 2020.
 
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mona247

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Sep 26, 2018
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I never claimed that I am an insider or know more then many here. I can be wrong. What I said before I wrote those numbers was according to my assumption not an absolute truth. I was just putting my point of view out there you can agree or disagree. Like I mentioned in my previous post you need to revisit your data it is incorrect and 5 days old numbers. OINP and AINP two I know for sure always issued nominations 2-3 days before the draw and in huge bulk numbers that never got reported in any of the published numbers as shared by you. Change in OINP released total nomination from September to October was around 1000 alone for example please view my post in previous thread on OINP nominations.

I would now rest this discussion as it is no longer constructive or spreading any hope. Lets just wait till 27th November. Lets keep our fingers crossed what we all want right now and I have firm belief that we will achieve is the golden ITA. Either in 2019 or 2020.
All of us are here to support each other and the discussion is still around building hope.

But the order of the current day is build hope with some realistic optimism, not like in the past build hope with wild predictions and it comes true.

Remember so many people on Ray of hope thread said October has 5 Wednesdays and as per the expected ITA target for the year for sure October will have 3 draws with 2 weeks gap each. People also said every year the Federal skills trades draw normally has no impact to the normal fsw draws going by the trend in 2017 and 2018.

Now look what has happened in 2019 till date.??

So please let's all be realistic and build hope with some caution going forward. Like I said before.. be prepared for the worst but if positive happens cheer about it and enjoy it like a surprise .!!
 

ViniB

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Aug 6, 2019
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Hello, I am a Specialist Physician, I completed my training in Chile and subsequently made two Fellows at the University of Toronto. For the IRCC the Specialist Physicioan have a PHD degree? I ask because the only thing that appears is a Doctor of Medicine has a Master's degree
Hi Pato46, you are in the same situation as my fellow Brazilian friends. M.D. would be considered a doctorate, but in South America, you receive a bachelors in medicine, and it would only count as an undergraduate degree.

If your specialization diploma clearly states it is a doctorate then yes, otherwise IRCC (or rather ECA - entity which validates you degree and give it a Canadian equivalency) will not consider it a doctorate.

In fact, if your specialization diploma does not even mention it is a master's degree, ECA will just consider it as a "post-grad diploma", which will give you less points than a master's equivalency. Unfortunately, wording is very important, so check what is written in your diploma.
 
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shinoshino

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Oct 16, 2019
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I just wonder why people suddenly be interested in Canada this year There was no big difference between 2017 and 2018. After February 2019 everything changed. What has happened in last 10 months?
 
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zagcollins

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Sep 9, 2017
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I just wonder why people suddenly be interested in Canada this year There was no big difference between 2017 and 2018. After February 2019 everything changed. What has happened in last 10 months?
1. Not a lot of people knew about it after its launch. 2017 it started taking off big time. What you are seeing now is the growing competitiveness.
2. There has been no progress in the US visa impasse. The situation isn't great in Dubai either. Australian PR is far stricter.
3. I am from India, so I can tell you about India. The middle class is frustrated. Canada is the only reasonable opportunity for a lot of aspirants to leave the country and make a decent living for themselves.
 

WarHammer

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May 17, 2018
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They probably don’t want you to log in so as not to tamper with the whole process.
They probably don’t want applicants to realize how easy the entire online process is and to avoid a line of applicants demanding their unfair fee’s paid.