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Ray of Hope - 125th Draw

NikSharma01

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thanks for ur reply. But I read comments that they have 45 days to submit? Before they submit, let’s say, they got NOI on 16 Aug, and draw happened on 19 Aug, if they did not hit accept, were they still available for the draw on 19 Aug?
Yes, they always have a choice whether to go with the NOI or to accept the direct ITA (Obviously, the latter option is preferred more if there is a favourable draw for them). Well, as the cut-off was 457 in the previous draw, so the folks with same and above crs must have accepted the direct ITA and saved themsleves from a hefty amount of 1500 CAD.

They're given the 45 days deadline to make decision wisely and hold themselves for the draws meanwhile if they have any chances !
 
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sssarah

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Yes, they always have a choice whether to go with the NOI or to accept the direct ITA. As, the cut-off was 457, so the folks with same and above crs must have accepted the direct ITA and saved themsleves from a hefty amount of 1500 CAD.

They're given the 45 days deadline to make decision wisely and hold themselves for the draws meanwhile if they have any chances !
Wow~thank u~So those who haven’t accept NOI yet and above 457 in this draw, do they counted in the 3600 ITA?
 

Harsha009

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thanks for ur reply. But I read comments that they have 45 days to submit? Before they submit, let’s say, they got NOI on 16 Aug, and draw happened on 19 Aug, if they did not hit accept, were they still available for the draw on 19 Aug?
Yes they will be in the pool ..
 

sssarah

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Moreover, why would u call the 15 Aug draw as a B2B draw? It seems very small effect to the EE draw since most of them are under 457. To me, a B2B draw should be like a EE draw happened right after the coming week.:rolleyes:
 

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CURRENT INTERNAL CRS TRACKER STATUS
CRS summary of active members waiting for Golden ITA (updated on August 20th 12:20 pm UTC):-
  • 460+ (Total 0):
  • 455-460 (Total 40) – | Milanarora: 457 | Thumper : 457 | #EEC: 457 | Priyasehgal22: 457 | sahils123: 457 | Hope457: 457 | vinoth388: 457 | y996: 457 | cromaine: 457 | Twindream: 457 | yg96: 457 | Dee1729: 457 | Angel1113: 456| cino86: 456 | Gsaggy: 456 | PrasadK: 456 | Silverwitch: 456 | tharibak: 456 | royalking: 456 | phuketlove: 456 | SimonSaleh: 456 | Jasmine1998: 456 | brick8899: 456 | missusd:456 | Akshay10: 456 | Ishakharub: 456 | blessedveev: 456 | Maya53: 456 | Mitya-kun:456 | Eqbal: 456 | Sara890: 455 | Eddiesol: 455 | yigitsk: 455 | merlz: 455 | Manish Patel: 455 | Dream Come-True: 455 | Harsha009: 455 | ruha: 455 | dreamcanada0224: 455 | Khushi dhanoa: 455 |
  • 454-450 (Total 49) - nadal87: 454 | abdulkhadar.moh: 454 | chirag171987: 454 | SG1507: 454 | Mspa: 454 | SASH8288: 454 | thatguy1: 454 | ArsheyaBegum: 454 | itas: 454 | aun_syed: 454 | strawy96: 453 | Sindhuja Karthikeyan: 453 | vivosvoco: 453 | jricardobt: 453 | guyshir: 453 | lignumvitae: 453 | jp3189n : 453 | Tivativalu: 452 | daughty: 452 | Suhasrs: 452 | drrakeshdent: 452 | Catnat: 451 | Woqi114: 451 | cdddelhi: 451 | Bageshree: 451 | captainUT: 451 | Sharath957: 451 | nehadeep: 450 | jkaur95: 450 | shamu2013: 450 | parvin2019: 450 | ekta29: 450 | skg1988: 450 | mamuso: 450 | vmsanthosh.chn: 450 | akm_11: 450 | anusha1712: 450 | mominmalik5: 450 | mandiebraxton: 450 | xyz2017: 450 | Avmaia: 450 | kuljeetklf: 450 | Ranjitrip: 450 | Hasrat123: 450 | JamesKang: 450 | AtitudeAdjustment: 450 | deepika450: 450 |
  • 445-449 (Total 62) - Div_newbie:449 | veritas1994: 449 | dappy9: 449 | Manru:449 | AnkitaShukla: 449 | a.altigani: 449 | IndianFam: 449 | prsingh: 449 | SanjibSaha: 449 | kvaram_62: 449 | nitinkalra07: 449 | Sreedev83: 449 | ssimmigration19: 449 | os32: 449 | patel_d07: 448 | EnthuChap: 448 | shine04: 448 | Agarwalparesh26: 448 | AmeyaGodbole: 448 | Tilly3: 448 | M2a3r4y5a6m: 448 | SimonSaleh: 448 | Hydowwu: 448 | msgill88:448 | Lazybug: 448 | NMS@: 448 | panchalch2: 448 | Dewdrops1502: 448 | adil_0262: 448 | Shanky1202: 448 | Aartavsharma: 448 | matteis:447 | D'trox: 447 | Noopur_23: 447 | Ravi_15: 447 | Meer85: 447 | Flowerview: 447 | armaanwadhwa: 447| nikki1992: 447 | Saial: 447 | shaunk_redemption: 447 | Brian_natt: 447 | infectious: 447 | sehgaljps: 447 | Stakesarehigh28: 447 | ExpressMan: 447 | Not_Your_Donkey_Kong: 446 | Rafahul: 446 | Reet_123: 446 | Kk1234:446 | MynameisMTS: 446 | RochelleAlford: 446 | rahulkraju: 446 | epema.kz: 446 | CananEE123: 446 | prince_lords:445 | frightenedpanda: 445 | dawak: 445 | nolimits7405: 445 | Boluwaduro: 445 | asad_ali_awan: 445 | MittalM: 445 | siataheri:445 | IeltsDream2019: 445
  • 441-444 (Total 41)- Shaanoh: 444 | NikSharma01:444 | NishaKirthi: 444 | Sonammahajan: 444 | mominmalik5: 444 | kadeed:444 | Jms_16: 444 | v_nitesh_k: 444 | nns14: 444 | Rohanisha: 444 | Ainpeespirant: 443 | MzBAH: 443 | gmi3001:443 | pursuit: 443 | sidra91: 443 | rharmon: 443 | seff786: 443 | seff786: 443| Lena32: 443 | CanucksRajiv : 443 | aloobharta01:442 | Kiamin: 442 | tani: 442 | MV18: 442 | Dirup: 442 | tonyzz: 442 | Shishir Chandra Kumar: 441 | SociallyAwkward: 441 | BumbleFrisbee: 441 | Ram89: 441 | intels: 441 | Maalee: 441 | SJ24: 441 | anandthepilot: 441 | beluluba: 441 | Mukeshprasada: 441 | akhil994: 441 | Priya85: 441 | hardeepSingh: 441 | Sony K Koshy: 441 | WantToImmigrate: 441 | os32: 441
  • 435-440 (Total 17) - bluehorse:440 | Tamilan8: 440 | Chavoshhh: 440 | ppa: 440 | rovar473: 440 | Siddharth-BOM: 438 | cadiee:438 | :438 | Sara1981:438 | rdj08: 438 | Nidsy: 438 | ghvijay: 438 | Vive: 438 | Kiamin: 437 | Sam0301: 437 | sheikh.abaz: 435 | Hemilshah80: 435
  • Below 435 (Total 6) - Life79: 432 | kumsa83: 432 | Day2203: 431 | moto90: 424 | AND IND: 423 | Sdabas: 421
Please share your updated CRS score if you're not included in this list. Also, if anybody with 457 recieved ITA who I didn't remove from the list please let me know.
I'm at (only) 428
 
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Moreover, why would u call the 15 Aug draw as a B2B draw? It seems very small effect to the EE draw since most of them are under 457. To me, a B2B draw should be like a EE draw happened right after the coming week.:rolleyes:
Anyway we have got 2 draws in August in total so that's equivalent to 2 biweekly draws in any given month. So, people calling it biweekly draws need to check their grammar i suppose.
 

expressTarun

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Guys, I am already PR in Canada. I got married in may and she's in india with 430 points. She'll need to update her profile in Express entry to married. Want to know, what should she answer to question where it is asked "Whether Family member is accompanying"?
 

rajapanesar

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Guys, I am already PR in Canada. I got married in may and she's in india with 430 points. She'll need to update her profile in Express entry to married. Want to know, what should she answer to question where it is asked "Whether Family member is accompanying"?
YES
 

yg96

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Jun 3, 2019
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Thks for providing me insights....is there any possibility about the next draw in Aug or it will be declared in September
the chances are very low but u never know CIC might surprise you with another draw but all the best man
 

Dheana90

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Hi guys~just one question. Those who got NOI on 16 August(i guess?), were they still in the pool? If yes, would they count in the 3600 ITA? If not, why would they still available for the ITA? Thanks~
Hi dear,
getting NOI doesn't make you ineligible for EE. In fact, I believe that almost all of PNP programs required candidates to have EE profile as one of their eligibility requirements.

2 of PNP programs that are linked to EE that I know of are OINP and BC-PNP. If you already submit your EE profile in the pool, you would have seen a question regarding Ontario and Bristish Columbia govt collecting your info. So, these 2 provinces usually send NOI to eligible candidates through their EE profiles but they still need to apply for the nomination through individual province's website. Though the result of your nomination will be notified in the candidates EE account for OINP and candidates have to click accept before the 600 nomination points will be added to their current CRS score.

While for other PNP programs, you have to apply through their provinces' websites and will be notified from the same website as well about the PNP nomination outcome, and if approved, you have to manually enter the nomination detail in your EE profile.
 

delga

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Jun 9, 2019
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Below are my estimation of CRS distribution and cut off score for 3rd Sep draw if it hapens on that date.

After 24th July draw, with 3,600 ITAs issued, the CRS score distribution would have been:

601-1,200 = 0 (3,600-407=3,193)
451-600 = 3,990 (7,183- 3,193)
441-450 =7,711


August 2, 2019 CRS distribution score range
601-1,200= 474
451-600= 6,821
441-450= 7,821

It means, in 9 days from 24th July to 2nd Aug, there were:

601-1,200 = 52profile/day (474/9)
451-600 =314prof/day(6,821-3,990=2,831/9)
441-450 =20prof/day (7,821-7,711=263/13)


So, by 12th August, the score distribution would have been approximately:

601-1,200 =994 (474+520 (52x10days)
451-600 =9,961(6,821+3140(314x10days))
441-450 = 8,021(7,821+ 200(20x10days))


After 12th Aug draw, with 3,600 ITAs issued and cut off 466, the CRS score distribution would have been:
601-1,200 = 0 (3,600-994=2,606)
451-600 = 4,215 (6,821- 2,606)
441-450 =8,021

Note: As cut off was 466, it means that the 4,215 left on 451-600 range are those who have score 451-466 only.

August 15, 2019 CRS score range
601-1,200 =127
451-600 =7,038
441-450 =8,084

It means, in 3 days from 12th Aug to 15th Aug, there were:

601-1,200 = 42profile/day (127/3)
451-600 =941prof/day(7,038-4,215=2,813/3)
441-450 =21prof/day (8,084-8,021=63/3)

As 941 profile per day is too high in range of 451-600, I will use previous 314 profile/day instead to calculate the profile added after 15 Aug to 20 Aug



So, by 20th August, the score distribution would have been approximately:
601-1,200 =337 (127+210(42x5days)
451-600 =8,608(7,038+1,570(314x5days))
441-450 = 8,189(8,084+ 105(21x5days))

After 20th Aug draw, with 3,600 ITAs issued and cut off 457, the CRS score distribution would have been:
601-1,200 = 0 (3,600-337=3,263)
451-600 = 5,345(8,608-3,263)
441-450 =8,189

Note: As cut off was 457, it means that the 5,345 profiles left on 451-600 range are those who have score 451-457 only. Let's assume that 5,345 are distributed equally to 451-457 score range. Thus, it makes 5,345/7=763 profile per score.

So, by 3rd September, the score distribution will be approximately:
601-1,200 = 588 (42x 14days)
451-600 =9,741(5,345+4,396(314x14days))
441-450= 8,189(8,084+ 105(21x5days))

Suppose that from 4,396 newly added profile from 20th August to 3rd Sep, 2,198(50% of 4,396) are of score 458-600 and the other half are of 451-457 score range which will be distributed equally through. So, it makes 2,198/7=314 profile per score.


So, if CIC still gonna issue 3,600 ITAs the cut off score will be approximately 455-457
3,600 minus:
588(601-1200)
2,198 (of 4,396 from 458-600 score range)
763(of 5,345 in 457score left on 20 Aug)
51(of 314 in 457 score added after 20 Aug)


with 3,900 ITA, the cut of score will be aporoximately 454-456.

3,900 minus:
588(601-1200)
2,198 (of 4,396 from 458-600 score range)
763(of 5,345 in 457score left on 20 Aug)
314(of 314 in 457 score added after 20 Aug)
37(of 763 in 456score left on 20 Aug)

Excellent analysis!.. although I was wondering previously about the reason of the sudden rise in the monthly rate of 451-600 applicants compared to the last 2 years, beside the reason of the drop in the no. of ITAs to 3350 and the delay in rising it to 3900..but we can never find an answer to these questions which will affect the long term scores...good work bro and hopefully things become better!
 
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sssarah

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Hi dear,
getting NOI doesn't make you ineligible for EE. In fact, I believe that almost all of PNP programs required candidates to have EE profile as one of their eligibility requirements.

2 of PNP programs that are linked to EE that I know of are OINP and BC-PNP. If you already submit your EE profile in the pool, you would have seen a question regarding Ontario and Bristish Columbia govt collecting your info. So, these 2 provinces usually send NOI to eligible candidates through their EE profiles but they still need to apply for the nomination through individual province's website. Though the result of your nomination will be notified in the candidates EE account for OINP and candidates have to click accept before the 600 nomination points will be added to their current CRS score.

While for other PNP programs, you have to apply through their provinces' websites and will be notified from the same website as well about the PNP nomination outcome, and if approved, you have to manually enter the nomination detail in your EE profile.
Thank u, that’s very clearly explanation. U all are so nice~