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Ray of Hope - 118th Draw

shine04

Star Member
Mar 22, 2019
65
12
So true mate. I have developed a hatred towards a manipulated and vicious IELTS. I can get CLB10 and that would take me to 454. However, I feel more inclined to be patient and wait for my turn at 448. Birthday is in December, so I feel relatively safe. People have been proven wrong over and over by CIC and they always surprise you. So 448 will sail through although late.
Even I strongly believe the same. The prediction here although proved correct in normal scenarios sometimes, this are just predictions and given the current situation anything can happen which is beyond our imagination which has been very evident these days.
 
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Mspa

Star Member
May 28, 2019
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My fiancee and I are planning to enter in Express entry pool.With alone she has 453 score. Our combined score is 446.So what is best option?? should wait at 446 or we should put her file alone??
 

Madhu_Arun

Member
May 21, 2019
16
4
34
India
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1123
Thanks alot for your help. I already have my reference letter ready. Should i get a new one with the dated after june 1st?
Hi, Can you help me with the format of the reference letter? I'm guessing it should have my Job title, Role & Responsibilities, Number of Working Hours per week, and Salary. Anything else?

NOC: 1123, Marketing Professional (3 years work experience)
ECA: 4 years Bachelors Degree, One-year Postgraduate Diploma (I have a BE in Computer Science and an MBA- which WES considered as 1Y-PGD)
CRS Score: 472, with spouse
 
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Vive

Star Member
Oct 1, 2018
128
16
Looks hard, any chance of improving that score?
I too started with that score on March 2018, still no ITA :D
This is my IELTS : 9,9,7,7.5
I can never improve more than this..

Added spouse details too.
No canada experience, no masters.

So the score cannot be improved at all,
When we started last year CRS was around 441 so we started this journey..

Now after all the pain, it went to an unreachable height.

Wat do we do? Forget canada completely?
 

BAOQUOC2601

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May 27, 2019
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Hi, Can you help me with the format of the reference letter? I'm guessing it should have my Job title, Role & Responsibilities, Number of Working Hours per week, and Salary. Anything else?

NOC: 1123, Marketing Professional
ECA: 4 years Bachelors Degree, One-year Postgraduate Diploma (I have a BE in Computer Science and an MBA- which WES considered as 1Y-PGD)
CRS Score: 472, with spouse
Hello,
You have very high CRS!

You can use the sample letter as below for your further action.
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[Letterhead]

[Name of supervisor]
[Title]
[Company address]

[Date]

To whom it may concern,

This is to certify that [Name] is employed by [Name of group / company] as a [Job title] since [Date] till present. She is currently working under my supervision with the following details.

· Employee ID: […]
· Monthly salary: […]
· Number of hours per week: full-time 40 hours

In this position, she had the following duties and responsibilities:
[Job duties]

Please contact me if you require further information.

Sincerely,


[Signature]


[Name of supervisor]
[Title]
[Phone]




[Letterhead]
 

Madhu_Arun

Member
May 21, 2019
16
4
34
India
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1123
Hello,
You have very high CRS!

You can use the sample letter as below for your further action.
----

[Letterhead]

[Name of supervisor]
[Title]
[Company address]

[Date]

To whom it may concern,

This is to certify that [Name] is employed by [Name of group / company] as a [Job title] since [Date] till present. She is currently working under my supervision with the following details.

· Employee ID: […]
· Monthly salary: […]
· Number of hours per week: full-time 40 hours

In this position, she had the following duties and responsibilities:
[Job duties]

Please contact me if you require further information.

Sincerely,


[Signature]


[Name of supervisor]
[Title]
[Phone]




[Letterhead]
Thanks for your quick reply! It's very helpful.

I seem to have gotten this score because of IELTS: L- 8, R- 8.5, W- 8, S- 8
 

_Harry_

Hero Member
Sep 29, 2016
752
292
I completely agree with you and most applicants will not need a consultant. They can simple read the IRCC website, prepare their application and its done.

However, for many it is not that straight forward. If an applicant is struggling with an aspect, they should seek professional help. Inadmissibility cases on criminality, prior refusal, past immigration violations in Canada, inadmissible family member, medical admissibility and many other factors can pose a challenge.

Irrespective, or what you do, never submit a false document. Not only your application will be rejected, you will also be banned for 5-10 years.

Here are some tips from my end:


1. Canada has made their immigration system easy and is the only country that allows “consultants” without any supervision to provide immigration services. This has created a lot of incorrect and unverifiable information floating on the web. Just because a person successfully file and got his application approved, does not make him an expect at immigration. Even lawyers who have been practicing immigration law for over three decades devote considerable time to keep themselves updated with the latest rules, regulations, case laws and notifications. (see https://goo.gl/upBxv1)


2. *Immigration is law*, not speculation, or discretion of an officer. The basic laws that govern immigration to Canada are:

a. The Constitution of Canada (Constitution Act 1867 & 1982)

b. The Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA)

c. The IRPA Regulations

d. The Manuals and Memos issued by IRCC

e. Cases decided by the Immigration and Refugee Board and the Federal Courts of Canada.​



3. *Always crosscheck the information available online* - When relying on information on the web, make sure you cross check it with the laws, or IRCC website. Do not blindly follow what people say on a Facebook page, Youtube, or a forum. Apply your brains, it is your application at the end.


4. *If you have hired a consultant or a lawyer, make sure they are licensed*. A consultant has to be licensed by ICCRC and their information can be verified at https://iccrc-crcic.ca/find-a-professional-frame/. The lawyers have to be licensed with the Provincial Law Society and their information can be verified at the respective pages of the Provincial Law Societies.

a. Ontario - https://lso.ca/public-resources/finding-a-lawyer-or-paralegal

b. British Columbia - https://www.lawsociety.bc.ca/lsbc/apps/lkup/mbr-search.cfm


5. *Difference between a Lawyer and a Consultant* - Both lawyers and consultants are licensed and regulated by governing bodies allowing them to provide immigration services. The main difference between lawyers and consultants is educational.

CONSULTANT:
A consultant is someone who is licensed by the ICCRC. The requirement to become a consultants is

To qualify to write the exam, and subsequently become a Regulated Canadian Immigration Consultant, you must:

  • Be at least 18 years of age;
  • Be a Canadian citizen, Canadian permanent resident, or a Canadian citizen who is a Registered Indian within the meaning of
    the Indian Act (Canada);
  • Graduate from an accredited immigration practitioner’s program;
  • Achieve at least the minimum required score on an ICCRC-approved English or French language ability test;
  • Provide satisfactory police certificates from every country in which you have lived for six (6) months or longer since age 18;
  • Satisfy the Registrar of your good character and good conduct by completing the Statutory Declaration – Background and
    Good Conduct attesting to good character and good conduct as well as by completing the Statutory Declaration – Other
    Occupations and Potential Conflicts of Interest; and
  • Attest not to presently be an undischarged bankrupt or be involved in a current creditor proposal or income garnishment
    arrangement in the Statutory Declaration – Background and Good Conduct.
Lawyer:

To enter the law school, one has to have a bachelor's degree. Then take a LSAT to get into the law school, and study for 3 years. After graduating from Law schools all applicants have to clear the bar exam, and do a 10 months articling position, which is training under a lawyer. Only after this rigorous training does one become a lawyer.

The lawyers are regulated by the Provincial Law Societies.
Lawyers have to complete a rigorous three-year law degree and a period of articling with a law firm before they may obtain a license. Prior to obtaining a law degree, and as a prerequisite to entering law school, lawyers usually obtain an undergraduate university degree. Becoming a lawyer therefore usually entails an education of at least seven years in duration. In comparison, immigration consultants only need a high school diploma, a program with 7 – 10 courses approximately one year in duration with no prior requirements and no articling component.

Also, Lawyers have to comply with strict client fund regulations, which consultants don’t have to. When a client pays any money to a lawyer, the lawyer by law has to put the money in a trust account, and only after the legal work is done, can the money be transferred to the lawyers personal account. A lawyer may not comingle or mix any personal funds with funds received in the lawyer’s role as a fiduciary on behalf of a client or third party. The trust account prevents commingling of different types of funds.

6. Another major difference between lawyers and consultants is that only lawyers may appear before the Federal Court. Lawyers are barristers and as such have the authority to appear before the courts, whereas consultants do not. Generally speaking, when it comes to any type of immigration appeal or hearing, whether it is before the Federal Court or the Immigration and Refugee Board, lawyers are much better equipped to represent clients due to their more in-depth legal training.

7. *Understanding the difference between a “Consultant” and an “Agent”*- ICCRC, the body that licenses consultants allows consultants to further hire Agents, who have to added to the register with ICCRC. There agents can only provide marketing and administrative services for a Consultant. But many of there Agents are providing legal services, which is illegal. To read more on what an agent can do and cannot do see - https://goo.gl/RDD9qU

8. *Information sharing on websites and keeping your personal information safe*– Canada has one of the worlds most strict Privacy laws (The Personal Information Protection and Electronic Documents Act (PIPEDA)). These Privacy laws apply on the government as well on any private entity handling personal information of any individual. However, the Canadian laws can only be enforced on entities in Canada. Canadian Privacy laws cannot be enforced on entities outside Canada. (See https://goo.gl/rcpKFH). Always make sure that any website you are dealing with which asks for your personal information, is in Canada and compliant with PIPEDA.

9. *GCMS Notes* - The GCMS notes are confidential documents, and have been classified as “Protected B” (Applies to information or assets that, if compromised, could cause injury to an individual, organization or government.) (https://www.tpsgc-pwgsc.gc.ca/esc-src/protection-safeguarding/niveaux-levels-eng.html). Do not share your GCMS notes online. When sharing screen shots, make sure that you retract your personal information from them. Safeguarding your personal information is your responsibility. ( https://goo.gl/FbrYLA)

All the best!
As always.. gems of information!
Thank you!
 

Madhu_Arun

Member
May 21, 2019
16
4
34
India
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1123
(Updated till 11:00 AM IST today) CRS summary of active members waiting for Golden ITA:
  • 460+ (Total 10) - Bloum: 491 | ajinkya.jadhav38: 486 | Ali1122: 479 | h2o_o2_co2: 478 | slim-shady: 478 | indpnv: 473 | KayPi: 468 | ashwin863: 462 | ajangbar001: 461 | meet0708: 461
  • 455-460 (Total 11) – ryeCatcher: 460 | MuibKhan: 458 | chirkut: 458 | #EEC: 457 | sarak1812: 457 | royalking: 456 | phuketlove: 456 | SimonSaleh: 456 | Sara890: 455 | Eddiesol: 455 | Nsidhu: 455
  • 450-454 (Total 26) - Folaroyal: 453 | madhav_91: 453 | Suhasrs: 452 | sehgaljps: 452 | cdddelhi: 451 | Bageshree: 451 | praveen22: 451 | captainUT: 451 | 13nitinsharma: 450 | kalex123: 450 | nehadeep: 450 | jkaur95: 450 | shamu2013: 450 | hakweye: 450 | parvin2019: 450 | ekta29: 450 | skg1988: 450 | DreamITA: 450 | mamuso: 450 | vmsanthosh.chn: 450 | akm_11: 450 | anusha1712: 450 | mominmalik5: 450 | mandiebraxton: 450 | xyz2017: 450 | Avmaia: 450
  • 445-449 (Total 53) - Shaanoh: 449 | Div_newbie:449 | veritas1994: 449 | dappy9: 449 | Manru:449 | AnkitaShukla: 449 | a.altigani: 449 | IndianFam: 449 | prsingh: 449 | SanjibSaha: 449 | kvaram_62: 449 |nitinkalra07: 449 | patel_d07: 448 | EnthuChap: 448 | shine04: 448 | Agarwalparesh26: 448 | Tivativalu: 448 | AmeyaGodbole: 448 | Tilly3: 448 | M2a3r4y5a6m: 448 | SimonSaleh: 448 | Hydowwu: 448 | msgill88:448 | Lazybug: 448 | matteis:447 | D'trox: 447 | Noopur_23: 447 | Ravi_15: 447 | Meer85: 447 | Flowerview: 447 | armaanwadhwa: 447| nikki1992: 447 | Saial: 447 | Ranjitrip: 447 | shaunk_redemption: 447 | Brian_natt: 447 | infectious: 447 | LKRYA: 447 | Reet_123: 446 | Kk1234:446 | SASH8288: 446 | Sreedev83: 446 | MynameisMTS: 446 | RochelleAlford: 446 | rahulkraju: 446 | prince_lords:445 | Uchyann: 445 | frightenedpanda: 445 | dawak: 445 | nolimits7405: 445 | Boluwaduro: 445 | asad_ali_awan: 445 | MittalM: 445 | siataheri:445 | Yiss: 445 | IeltsDream2019: 445
  • 441-444 (Total 31) - NikSharma01:444 | NishaKirthi: 444 | Sonammahajan: 444 | mominmalik5: 444 | kadeed:444 | Jms_16: 444 | v_nitesh_k: 444 | Ainpeespirant: 443 | MzBAH: 443 | gmi3001:443 | pursuit: 443 | ravinder_singh:443 | sidra91: 443 | rharmon: 443 | seff786: 443 | seff786: 443| aloobharta01:442 | Kiamin: 442 | tani: 442 | MV18: 442 | Shishir Chandra Kumar: 441 | SociallyAwkward: 441 | BumbleFrisbee: 441 | Ram89: 441 | intels: 441 | Maalee: 441 | SJ24: 441 | anandthepilot: 441 | beluluba: 441 | Mukeshprasada: 441 | akhil994: 441
  • 435-440 (Total 14) - bluehorse:440 | Tamilan8: 440 | Chavoshhh: 440 | ppa: 440 | Siddharth-BOM: 438 | cadiee:438 | :438 | Sara1981:438 | rdj08: 438 | Nidsy: 438 | ghvijay: 438 | Kiamin: 437 | Sam0301: 437 | sheikh.abaz: 435
  • Below 435 (Total 5) - Life79: 432 | Day2203: 431 | moto90: 424 | AND IND: 423 | Sdabas: 421
Please share your updated CRS score if you're not included in this list.
CRS Score: 472, with spouse
NOC: 1123, Marketing Professional (3 years work experience)
ECA: 4 years Bachelors Degree, One-year Postgraduate Diploma (I have a BE in Computer Science and an MBA- which WES considered as 1Y-PGD) / Spouse ECA: Masters Degree
IELTS: 8/8.5/8/8 in LRWS
 

ripul

Hero Member
Jan 29, 2019
384
192
This is my IELTS : 9,9,7,7.5
I can never improve more than this..

Added spouse details too.
No canada experience, no masters.

So the score cannot be improved at all,
When we started last year CRS was around 441 so we started this journey..

Now after all the pain, it went to an unreachable height.

Wat do we do? Forget canada completely?
How about going for one year course. Please do some research to find the course which will give you the opportunity to be eligible for Two or more certificates.
 

Eddiesol

Star Member
Mar 22, 2019
162
41
Any prediction for crs
(Updated till 11:00 AM IST today) CRS summary of active members waiting for Golden ITA:
  • 460+ (Total 10) - Bloum: 491 | ajinkya.jadhav38: 486 | Ali1122: 479 | h2o_o2_co2: 478 | slim-shady: 478 | indpnv: 473 | KayPi: 468 | ashwin863: 462 | ajangbar001: 461 | meet0708: 461
  • 455-460 (Total 11) – ryeCatcher: 460 | MuibKhan: 458 | chirkut: 458 | #EEC: 457 | sarak1812: 457 | royalking: 456 | phuketlove: 456 | SimonSaleh: 456 | Sara890: 455 | Eddiesol: 455 | Nsidhu: 455
  • 450-454 (Total 26) - Folaroyal: 453 | madhav_91: 453 | Suhasrs: 452 | sehgaljps: 452 | cdddelhi: 451 | Bageshree: 451 | praveen22: 451 | captainUT: 451 | 13nitinsharma: 450 | kalex123: 450 | nehadeep: 450 | jkaur95: 450 | shamu2013: 450 | hakweye: 450 | parvin2019: 450 | ekta29: 450 | skg1988: 450 | DreamITA: 450 | mamuso: 450 | vmsanthosh.chn: 450 | akm_11: 450 | anusha1712: 450 | mominmalik5: 450 | mandiebraxton: 450 | xyz2017: 450 | Avmaia: 450
  • 445-449 (Total 53) - Shaanoh: 449 | Div_newbie:449 | veritas1994: 449 | dappy9: 449 | Manru:449 | AnkitaShukla: 449 | a.altigani: 449 | IndianFam: 449 | prsingh: 449 | SanjibSaha: 449 | kvaram_62: 449 |nitinkalra07: 449 | patel_d07: 448 | EnthuChap: 448 | shine04: 448 | Agarwalparesh26: 448 | Tivativalu: 448 | AmeyaGodbole: 448 | Tilly3: 448 | M2a3r4y5a6m: 448 | SimonSaleh: 448 | Hydowwu: 448 | msgill88:448 | Lazybug: 448 | matteis:447 | D'trox: 447 | Noopur_23: 447 | Ravi_15: 447 | Meer85: 447 | Flowerview: 447 | armaanwadhwa: 447| nikki1992: 447 | Saial: 447 | Ranjitrip: 447 | shaunk_redemption: 447 | Brian_natt: 447 | infectious: 447 | LKRYA: 447 | Reet_123: 446 | Kk1234:446 | SASH8288: 446 | Sreedev83: 446 | MynameisMTS: 446 | RochelleAlford: 446 | rahulkraju: 446 | prince_lords:445 | Uchyann: 445 | frightenedpanda: 445 | dawak: 445 | nolimits7405: 445 | Boluwaduro: 445 | asad_ali_awan: 445 | MittalM: 445 | siataheri:445 | Yiss: 445 | IeltsDream2019: 445
  • 441-444 (Total 31) - NikSharma01:444 | NishaKirthi: 444 | Sonammahajan: 444 | mominmalik5: 444 | kadeed:444 | Jms_16: 444 | v_nitesh_k: 444 | Ainpeespirant: 443 | MzBAH: 443 | gmi3001:443 | pursuit: 443 | ravinder_singh:443 | sidra91: 443 | rharmon: 443 | seff786: 443 | seff786: 443| aloobharta01:442 | Kiamin: 442 | tani: 442 | MV18: 442 | Shishir Chandra Kumar: 441 | SociallyAwkward: 441 | BumbleFrisbee: 441 | Ram89: 441 | intels: 441 | Maalee: 441 | SJ24: 441 | anandthepilot: 441 | beluluba: 441 | Mukeshprasada: 441 | akhil994: 441
  • 435-440 (Total 14) - bluehorse:440 | Tamilan8: 440 | Chavoshhh: 440 | ppa: 440 | Siddharth-BOM: 438 | cadiee:438 | :438 | Sara1981:438 | rdj08: 438 | Nidsy: 438 | ghvijay: 438 | Kiamin: 437 | Sam0301: 437 | sheikh.abaz: 435
  • Below 435 (Total 5) - Life79: 432 | Day2203: 431 | moto90: 424 | AND IND: 423 | Sdabas: 421
Please share your updated CRS score if you're not included in this list.
What are your predictions for tomorrow's draw?
 

13nitinsharma

Champion Member
Apr 17, 2012
2,568
3,163
Canada
CIC must have planned the way they've to conduct remaining draws in this year. To achieve the yearly target, we'll see constant number of ITA's issued by CIC pretty soon (hopefully, this change will be enforced from tomorrow onwards).

We won't need any back to back draws with 3900 ITA's and a regular draw conducted at 14 days interval. CRS cut-off will be back to normal stage and below 450 in next 4 draws.

I believe, thunderstorm has been passed now and the brighter side is all set to spread the positive vibes. Most importantly, we need to show some more patience here, like the way we're UNITED so far since Jan 30th draw. Trust God, everything will be changed soon :)
 

epema.kz

Member
May 27, 2019
11
2
I am applying from outside Canada.
CIC must have planned the way they've to conduct remaining draws in this year. To achieve the yearly target, we'll see constant number of ITA's issued by CIC pretty soon (hopefully, this change will be enforced from tomorrow onwards).

We won't need any back to back draws with 3900 ITA's and a regular draw conducted at 14 days interval. CRS cut-off will be back to normal stage and below 450 in next 4 draws.

I believe, thunderstorm has been passed now and the brighter side is all set to spread the positive vibes. Most importantly, we need to show some more patience here, like the way we're UNITED so far since Jan 30th draw. Trust God, everything will be changed soon :)
These kinds of posts give people hope! Let's all pray for the cut-off to drop.
 
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boco126

Newbie
Nov 6, 2018
4
0
Hello! Can anyone help me with a sample consent letter by a spouse who is not the PA but in whose bank account the POF is? Thank you.