Ray of Hope 109th draw

[zabrodov]

Well, I suggest you wait of for OINP or raise the score through IELTS if there is a room for that. But spouse non-accompanying route just for the sake of getting ITA will lead to trouble in case you fail to convince the VO that you have valid reasons to leave your spouse behind. Marking a spouse non-accompanying just for getting high CRS score will be considered as misrepresentation for sure.

Just think why would thousands of married candidates wait hanging around cut-off score instead of getting ITA instatly by marking spouse as non-accompanying.

I don't think there is any law that defines the "right" and "wrong" reasons for non-accompanying family members.

 

[pessacanada]

So with every passing draw, I'm losing hope and looking for other options. Maybe some of the experts here can share some insights.

I'm at crs 429, expecting to go up to 435 within a week as soon as I get my wife's ECA. I'm 40+ and have pretty much maxed out on all the elements of the score chart so I'm not going to increase the score from here.

I'll lose points in September due to age. What are my options (if any)?

-Getting job offer from Canadian employer (so difficult);
- PNPs (no exact waiting time for that);
- learning French for a level of clb7 for 30 points as a bonus + second language points (up to you, coz you need some tine to learn but at the end you will have a bright future, it means French clb7 can open your way towards Canada but also it may give more chance in getting a good job once you're in Canada as a PR).

 

[vensak]

I don't think there is any law that defines the "right" and "wrong" reasons for non-accompanying family members.

Wrong,
Actually the wrong reasons for non-accompanying is just to get more points. from the point of view of Canada of course.
They do much prefer that your spouse speaks good English / French and has good education, so he/she can contribute well. So if it not the case you will get penalization and you need to prove, that you can manage for 2 people (and get more points). That is especially true, when your spouse is not even able to qualify if ever she / he was the main applicant.
So obviously doing that you are cheating the system. And this is of course unfair to all those that keep their spouses accompanying.

The right reasons are when for whatever reasons you do not want to separate / divorce but you want to live apart for years (not just for few months).

so you need to prove that the second point is the case.

 

[legalfalcon]

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[Navraj]

Check your inbox.

Thanks

 

[zabrodov]

Wrong,
Actually the wrong reasons for non-accompanying is just to get more points. from the point of view of Canada of course.
They do much prefer that your spouse speaks good English / French and has good education, so he/she can contribute well. So if it not the case you will get penalization and you need to prove, that you can manage for 2 people (and get more points). That is especially true, when your spouse is not even able to qualify if ever she / he was the main applicant.
So obviously doing that you are cheating the system. And this is of course unfair to all those that keep their spouses accompanying.

The right reasons are when for whatever reasons you do not want to separate / divorce but you want to live apart for years (not just for few months).

so you need to prove that the second point is the case.

I don't think there is any kind of legal support for your point. I am not talking about fairness here, just about the legal aspect of the issue. It's not illegal to use a different route if it exists. I couldn't find any Canadian law or any mentioning of the validity of the reason for non-accompanying family members in the CIC processing manual.

 

[mdilushi]

So with every passing draw, I'm losing hope and looking for other options. Maybe some of the experts here can share some insights.

I'm at crs 429, expecting to go up to 435 within a week as soon as I get my wife's ECA. I'm 40+ and have pretty much maxed out on all the elements of the score chart so I'm not going to increase the score from here.

I'll lose points in September due to age. What are my options (if any)?

How about your wife's language results?

 

[mdilushi]

Well, you should accept it then later sponsor your wife. It may take a bit longer but safer.

Sponsoring will take long time. at least an year

 

[farrukhahmed]

How about your wife's language results?

Already included in the calculation.

 

[vensak]

I don't think there is any kind of legal support for your point. I am not talking about fairness here, just about the legal aspect of the issue. It's not illegal to use a different route if it exists. I couldn't find any Canadian law or any mentioning of the validity of the reason for non-accompanying family members in the CIC processing manual.

And again you are mistaken:

Lets take it step by step:
1. you are assessed using this manual.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/assessing-electronic-application-on-section-a11-2.html
2. From that manual you know that you must prove, you must prove to meet CRS criteria for your draw and to maintain it until your E-AOR (until you will send out your application).
3. Your family members are still your family members regardless if they are accompanying you or not, so the exception of not recalculating points if they change their heart in the middle of the process does not apply.
4. Officer is also checking your application for misinterpretation.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/section-40.html
5. Misinterpretation is also:
for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act;
So in case of non accompanying spouse withholding information about true intentions of your spouse (to apply for sponsorship the moment you land and of course always having intention to immigrate). Of course with that lower score with your spouse you would be never able to get invitation for that round, so in other words by making your spouse non accompanying you claim points you should not. So at the end it would produce an error to approve an application that should have been declined.
6. If this double intention is discovered during your application, you can smooth talk yourself out of misinterpretation, but not out of points recalculation.

So yes what you discuss just for the sake to get ITA is a fraud and illegal.

 

[DreamCanadian]

442 here still waiting for ECA

will it increase after ECA ?

 

[DreamCanadian]

You will end up 444, which is almost guaranteed in the next two draws unless they have three weeks gap draw.

what is the minimum CSR would you except the in next two draw?

 

[Spotted]

And again you are mistaken:

Lets take it step by step:
1. you are assessed using this manual.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/permanent-residence/express-entry/assessing-electronic-application-on-section-a11-2.html
2. From that manual you know that you must prove, you must prove to meet CRS criteria for your draw and to maintain it until your E-AOR (until you will send out your application).
3. Your family members are still your family members regardless if they are accompanying you or not, so the exception of not recalculating points if they change their heart in the middle of the process does not apply.
4. Officer is also checking your application for misinterpretation.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/I-2.5/section-40.html
5. Misinterpretation is also:
for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act;
So in case of non accompanying spouse withholding information about true intentions of your spouse (to apply for sponsorship the moment you land and of course always having intention to immigrate). Of course with that lower score with your spouse you would be never able to get invitation for that round, so in other words by making your spouse non accompanying you claim points you should not. So at the end it would produce an error to approve an application that should have been declined.
6. If this double intention is discovered during your application, you can smooth talk yourself out of misinterpretation, but not out of points recalculation.

So yes what you discuss just for the sake to get ITA is a fraud and illegal.

Excellent link, thank you

 

[alongroad]

Check your inbox.

Hi, can you share the details with me.

 

[Ambrose4045]

Please someone help me on this one. My wife is the primary applicant and I am the dependent. I may get an ita in the coming draw. My dad is gonna provide me the gift deed for the entire amount . So can secondary applicant proof of funds can be shown ?? If not then my second question is can father in law provide a gift deed to daughter in law directly and is this acceptable by CIC ? Please someone answer my two questions. Thanks in advance.