Questions about Documentation to submit

[italki]

Hello everyone

I haven't started my application yet but i am a bit concerned about all the documents that I will need to submit
and i have many questions in regard to this topic. I hope you can help

1) All copies of the documents indicated below must be authenticated by the institution which holds the original or by the legal authority duly authorized to certify as true a copy of a document, that is, a copy of an original that can be traced. All copies of documents written in a language other than French or English must be accompanied by an official translation in French or English and a copy of the original document in its original language. The originals must be available on request or be presented during the interview, if any.

With this first point, what i want to ask is:
- can you give me examples of any legal authorities who can certify documents?
- Will i have to translate every single document into french or english? Won't that cost me a fortune?

 

[italki]

2)Enclose with your application:
a copy of all diplomas or certificates for secondary, post-secondary and/or university studies, arranged and stapled in descending chronological order (the most recent document appearing first);

- Do those have to be certified copies as well from an authority? or am i allowed to send the originals if i have spare ones?

3)a copy of all academic transcripts for each of your years of study, including the present year, excluding primary studies, arranged and stapled in descending chronological order;

- Does this mean i have to send them every single report from high school for each semester? or just the university ones?

 

[jtob]

- can you give me examples of any legal authorities who can certify documents?

your birth ceritifcates must be originals issued by your coutry's civil registrar.

photocopies of documents can be certified by notary publics and judges.

- Will i have to translate every single document into french or english? Won't that cost me a fortune?

you have no choice but to translate all important documents not in english and yes it will cost you a fortune as you can not do the translation yourself but a certified translator.

 

[italki]

4) Work experience acquired over the last five years
Enclose the following documents for yourself and your spouse, if any:
a certificate stating all your employment experiences

How is one person who lives in a big city supposed to find and trace all previous employers? If i can find maybe 2 employers who are willing to give me a certificate stating that i worked for them is that enough?

a copy of employment contracts with your former and current employers;

What sane person on earth keeps all of their contracts? and why on earth do they need them for?

a copy of all your work certificates.
The work certificates must be produced on the company's letterhead. They must be dated and signed and bear the signatory's name and function. They must also give the following information:
start and end dates of your employment;
contact information for your employers, including their telephone number;
job positions that you held and a description of tasks that you performed.

What are those work certificates and where do i get them from?

 

[jtob]

you do not send any documents to sydney ns when you send your application.

please go to wwww.cic.gc.ca and read the instruction guide.

good luck

 

[italki]

5) Internship certificates for work done during apprenticeship, training or specialization recognized by a diploma must be accompanied by the agreements made with the educational institution you attended.

- As part of my postgraduate degree i had to do unpaid internships in secondary schools (as i was training to be a secondary teacher)
Although my academic transcript from university states that i have completed the 45 days of supervised teaching required by my course
do i still need to get each of the schools where i taught to give me a letter stating that i worked there or do you think that won't be necessary?

 

[italki]

you do not send any documents to sydney ns when you send your application.

please go to wwww.cic.gc.ca and read the instruction guide.

good luck

Sorry but i think that was a silly response Where do you think i am taking those points from? Of course i have alread looked at the website
hundreds of times but their instructions are not clear and that is the whole purpose of having a forum here where we can discuss things. If you want to contribute to this thread please answer my questions directly. I do not like being directed to websites

 

[rupeshhari]

respectfully, i must say jtob is trying to help. Many people do come on here without reading the website so pointing you to the website may have helped you in the event that you hadn't read the website.

1) the link for FSW immigration has a list of authorized people who can certify. Yes, translation can be costly. I had to do just two pages and it cost me over US$90. Thats big part of my student stipend.
You should see what is the minimum necessary document and only translate that.

2) Degrees should be certified photocopies (i think the standard in most countries is to only give out one original). The transcripts must be original in university sealed envelopes. If you have spare transcripts in university sealed envelope, you can use these. I did.


3) "a copy of all academic transcripts for each of your years of study, including the present year, excluding primary studies, arranged and stapled in descending chronological order; "
Where did you read this? If this is asked of you, then you should.

4) One big city is actually easy. I had to do that over multiple countries. One other person here mentioned something like 7 countries for PCC. Employers would be easier. You should get enough employer letters to prove your experience at least up to 4 years of skill type 0,A,B and including minsterial list job (if you are FSW 1).

I was lucky to keep all my contracts. Perhaps you can ask your employers to give you a copy. All my employers would have if I didn't have it.

Those work letters can only be gotten from your employer.

5) Depending on the degree or diploma, you may not have to. For example, as part of my engineering degree, i had to do some weeks of internship, but its not even mentioned anywhere so i didnt hand this in for my internships.

Good luck.

 

[italki]

3) "a copy of all academic transcripts for each of your years of study, including the present year, excluding primary studies, arranged and stapled in descending chronological order; "
Where did you read this? If this is asked of you, then you should.

I am applying through the quebec provincial program and that is what they ask in the website :S

4) One big city is actually easy. I had to do that over multiple countries. One other person here mentioned something like 7 countries for PCC. Employers would be easier. You should get enough employer letters to prove your experience at least up to 4 years of skill type 0,A,B and including minsterial list job (if you are FSW 1).

Apparently you don't need to have so many years of work experience to move to Quebec. Their process is known to be easier and quicker as you do not need a job offer to apply

I also have another question in relation to the federal immigration program and all the provincial ones except quebec
-It looks as if they all require you to have a job offer before you even start the application. Now, how is that even possible that someone will give you a job before you even get to Canada? Is that just something they say to scare off applicants or is that rule strictly enforced?

If this rule is true and regularly enforced, i must say that i find it discriminating towards people from not so rich country who clearly havent got the money
to fly all the way to canada and try to find themselves a job, then fly back to their home country and apply .....

 

[rupeshhari]

You should read this too if you are applying for Quebec

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/questions-about-quebec-pnp-t11021.0.html

 

[rupeshhari]

4) One big city is actually easy. I had to do that over multiple countries. One other person here mentioned something like 7 countries for PCC. Employers would be easier. You should get enough employer letters to prove your experience at least up to 4 years of skill type 0,A,B and including minsterial list job (if you are FSW 1).

Apparently you don't need to have so many years of work experience to move to Quebec. Their process is known to be easier and quicker as you do not need a job offer to apply

I also have another question in relation to the federal immigration program and all the provincial ones except quebec
-It looks as if they all require you to have a job offer before you even start the application. Now, how is that even possible that someone will give you a job before you even get to Canada? Is that just something they say to scare off applicants or is that rule strictly enforced?

If this rule is true and regularly enforced, i must say that i find it discriminating towards people from not so rich country who clearly havent got the money
to fly all the way to canada and try to find themselves a job, then fly back to their home country and apply .....

Almost all PNP in other provinces need job. I think there is one or two programs that dont need a job, like those who have H1B.

I would imagine it is stricly enforced, else lots of people will be flooding Canada, including those who won't contribute much to Canada's growth.

Isn't it also unfair that only French speakers can go to Quebec and only educated people or experienced people can apply for FSW because in some countries education is so expensive that only rich people can afford to do it. Most people (i think) don't find their job necessarily by going to Canada. A lot of people struggle finding jobs from overseas but the ones that do find jobs, probably do find it while overseas (i am guessing). You just have to convince them why they should hire you without any Canadian experience and why you are good.

They might also take a different view (especially with FSW applicants). If you can afford to immigrate to Canada then you can afford to fly there and look for a job. I dont know how much money is needed for CSQ.

 

[rupeshhari]

most of my answers to you were based on the assumption for FSW 1, so might not be true for CSQ.

 

[italki]

What if one goes to Canada with a working holiday visa for 2 years? Is that a good way of finding your way around and building connections in jobs etc?

Would Canada immigration look kindly to that when you apply for residency? What if you get a good job while you are on working holiday visa, is it easier to stay there?

How did you people find a job in Canada before applying for residency?

 

[rupeshhari]

I think working visa could work. thats one way to build connections and find jobs and then apply for PR i guess.

Your points will get increased if you have canadian experience (i think, you need to make sure) but would it look any more kindly, probably not. If you get a good job, maybe you can apply for PNP or FSW if you qualify.

I am no expert so i dont know the rules of working holiday visa etc.

Another discriminatory practice....only certain countries get working holiday visa i think. lol....i am just teasing you here.

 

[italki]

Another discriminatory practice....only certain countries get working holiday visa i think. lol....i am just teasing you here.

Ha ha! that is true indeed
they have recently increased the working holiday visa to 2 years for people who live in Australia
Anyway i wanted to apply for PR straigth from the beggining because i like stability and certainty
with a working holiday visa i would be in limbo for the entire time and i wouldn't know what to do
after the time expires......