Question / Advice on re-entry w/o RO met

[walterg74]

You are complicating your circumstances on your own. The best case scenario is that you come to Canada before Sept and give birth to your child in Canada. If you are thinking of applying under H&C, questions arises that if the VO is to agree with that, those circumstances only presented now - what happened before now? Your situation is not perfect hence outcomes are not going to be perfect.

Again, everyone is trying to be helpful so taking stabs in a non-civil manner is not going to help anyone. All the best.

Sorry if it seemed that way, not my intention at all, just trying to point out things you may not have seen/considered.

I would love to do what you say, but unfortunately that is not an option for us. We cannot go immediately anyway, late August would be the earliest for us to ALL go, and would have no insurance definitely not one to cover a c-sec birth, and it's not annoption anyway, as we need to see this through with our doctor for several reasons.

I know and understand what you mean about the situation, but it's not helpful and moot to talk about that, I'm just trying to find the best possible solution.

I'm thinking of an alternate plan where I go by myself earlier (like July), therefore not only still complying with RO but giving me an additional 2 months leeway to be able to return for the birth, etc. My wife and kid could join me in August (still complying with RO) to at least be there and have ohysical presence to at least reduce the subsequent absence.
When returning to Canada after that I myself would still be in compliance of with the RO, and would sponsor my child (both actually at that point) only at that moment (would be in december).

My wife would be the only one short by a bit from the RO but worst case should she get reported and lose PR at some point I could sponsor her too.

Does that sound better/more reasonable?

 

[dbss]

We all are here to help so no worries.

What province are going to be coming? I am not sure what your situation is like but Alberta gives medical coverage right away but you have to live I think 183 days in the province else if audited, you can be made to pay back. I am not a lawyer but I believe this would only apply to your wife which is still better than her being in another country altogether and keeping her PR as well. Added bonus, your baby will automatically be a Canadian citizen by birth.

Your other option can work too but make sure you leave no room for error in your RO i.e. you have documented and made available to CBSA if required your entries and exits. Always remember, the onus will be on you to prove. I am not sure if you need to show income (canadian or otherwise) to be able to sponsor spouse. Also, your wife will be a PR unless a CIC officer says otherwise i.e. when she comes to Canada, she will be allowed to enter Canada being PR (CBSA operational bulletin has this specifically mentioned so keep it handy). Only after her PR status is formally revoked by CIC can you apply for her sponsorship again be it while she is in Canada or when you apply for your baby sponsorship.Not sure about your passport, but can your baby apply for eTA?

I hope this helps.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I don't think you actually read my post in it's entirety... at least not the relevant one for which the discussion continued which is #8. I said we would be going back to Canada BEFORE the RO time limit ends, so no problem with the first part, but would then need to leave for a short period to have the baby.

It is not feasible to have a baby with no health insurance or even on traveller's insurance (which of course we would buy). And I think it's very much in the best interest of a child to actually be born and alive...

I did read that post. You stated you would come in August and then leave for the birth and then ended your post stating that you would still be 45 days short of meeting the RO. You continued to discuss H&C based on not meeting the RO. That is what I responded to.

I don't understand your statement about "best interest of a child to actually be born and alive". If you had the child in Canada without health coverage, it would be just as safe as if you had health coverage except you would need to pay the costs, so that isn't a valid argument.

I'm thinking of an alternate plan where I go by myself earlier (like July), therefore not only still complying with RO but giving me an additional 2 months leeway to be able to return for the birth, etc. My wife and kid could join me in August (still complying with RO) to at least be there and have ohysical presence to at least reduce the subsequent absence.
When returning to Canada after that I myself would still be in compliance of with the RO, and would sponsor my child (both actually at that point) only at that moment (would be in december).

If you can come to Canada earlier and ensure you meet the RO when you sponsor your child, you will have no issues.

 

[walterg74]

I did read that post. You stated you would come in August and then leave for the birth and then ended your post stating that you would still be 45 days short of meeting the RO. You continued to discuss H&C based on not meeting the RO. That is what I responded to.

I don't understand your statement about "best interest of a child to actually be born and alive". If you had the child in Canada without health coverage, it would be just as safe as if you had health coverage except you would need to pay the costs, so that isn't a valid argument.




If you can come to Canada earlier and ensure you meet the RO when you sponsor your child, you will have no issues.

I think this would be the best option, to go earlier myself (say July), and therefore make sure I always maintain the RO even leaving for those 2 months. I guess I need to look into getting a Visa for my daughter, or verifying if her citizenship will be on time (She and her mom are able to get Austian citizenship, which is one of the visa exempt countries).

 

[walterg74]

Hey guys, quick question:

Is it *faster* to sponsor a dependant child if I settle in Quebec? I was going through the cic website, and when I went to the the Quebec site to see the requirements, I found this:

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The Ministère is currently respecting the 25-day timeframe for processing a sponsorship application.

The Ministère is currently processing sponsorship applications received on:

- May 18, 2017, for a spouse, common-law spouse or dependent child;
- April 25, 2017, for other family members.
Information on timeframes is updated regularly.
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Does this mean I could potentially do the Quebec part of the sponsorship in under 1 month?

How long does IRCC take to process these types, where they only do the initial assessment and the you must continue with Quebec?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Hey guys, quick question:

Is it *faster* to sponsor a dependant child if I settle in Quebec? I was going through the cic website, and when I went to the the Quebec site to see the requirements, I found this:

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The Ministère is currently respecting the 25-day timeframe for processing a sponsorship application.

The Ministère is currently processing sponsorship applications received on:

- May 18, 2017, for a spouse, common-law spouse or dependent child;
- April 25, 2017, for other family members.
Information on timeframes is updated regularly.
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Does this mean I could potentially do the Quebec part of the sponsorship in under 1 month?

How long does IRCC take to process these types, where they only do the initial assessment and the you must continue with Quebec?

No, it is not any faster to sponsor someone in Quebec. The Quebec process is an additional step on top of the same IRCC process that everyone goes through.