Quebec Provincial Program - Need advice, please help

[italki]

Hi Everyone
I am a 26 years old Italo-Australian guy who has always dreamed of moving to Canada for good
Lately i have been thinking about this a lot and i think the time has come to put my application in.

People have told me that in order to fast track my application i should apply through Quebec as they have
less requirements there (you don't need a job offer from an employer) and they are pretty fast in processing the application
Is this true? What do you people think?

Regarding the French exam that i will have to sit, i really have no problem with that as i have done advanced french at university

Any advice is very much appreciated especially from people who have already gone through the process of applying

Thanks a lot!

If you would like to answer me in private my email address is damianipiero@hotmail.com

 

[Chinaconnection]

Hi Italki,

I think your decision is good. Quebec skilled worker is definitely very fast to process. Well i say so coz i filed my Aplication in Hongkong then after 2 months i got the selection certificate.Applied for PR in Beijing in October. 2 days ago, i got the resquest for medicals, right of PR fee, and passport. So i think it is relatively fast. It depends on where you will file in your application.

Hope my view helps?

 

[Leon]

For regular skilled worker, you need now a job offer or an occupation on the most wanted list. If you don't qualify, then go for Quebec. Nothing wrong with Quebec, it's nice there.

 

[italki]

Hi Italki,

I think your decision is good. Quebec skilled worker is definitely very fast to process. Well i say so coz i filed my Aplication in Hongkong then after 2 months i got the selection certificate.Applied for PR in Beijing in October. 2 days ago, i got the resquest for medicals, right of PR fee, and passport. So i think it is relatively fast. It depends on where you will file in your application.

Hope my view helps?

Hey thanks for the answer!
I would like to ask you lots of more questions though
since you have already applied for it and have gone through
the process. Is that ok if i ask you things here or do you prefer
in private?

 

[italki]

For regular skilled worker, you need now a job offer or an occupation on the most wanted list. If you don't qualify, then go for Quebec. Nothing wrong with Quebec, it's nice there.

I am only 26 years old so i don't have many years of full time work experience. I really don't mind Quebec to start off with and montreal is a lovely city
What i would like to ask you though is: just say i get the certificate of selection from quebec, what happens then? and just say they accept me and i move to montreal, how long am i required to stay in quebec before i can start to roam other provinces and eventually settle down somewhere else?

 

[Chinaconnection]

When you get the selection certificate, you will then apply for Permanent residence. When filing your application, you will need to sign a form of intend to reside in quebec. I am not sure about how long you have to reside in quebec but as far as i know, when you move to Montreal and later on want to go to other provinces, i think there will be no problem, but you will however lose some benefits from the Quebec Government that may not be applicable in the other provinces.

Correct me if i am wrong BCGUY , And others. This is just my own idea and from what i have heard others say.

Cheers!!!!!

 

[italki]

When you get the selection certificate, you will then apply for Permanent residence. When filing your application, you will need to sign a form of intend to reside in quebec. I am not sure about how long you have to reside in quebec but as far as i know, when you move to Montreal and later on want to go to other provinces, i think there will be no problem, but you will however lose some benefits from the Quebec Government that may not be applicable in the other provinces.

Correct me if i am wrong BCGUY , And others. This is just my own idea and from what i have heard others say.

Cheers!!!!!

Thanks! So let's go through all the stages of the application process, that would be handy for me to know
can you list for me all the things you did from beggining to the end? i ll throw in some questions in too
1) You said it took just two months to get the selection certificate? what did you do after that?
2) Once you get your selection certificate does that pretty much guarantee that you will be accepted into Canada?
3) Have you got your residency yet or are you still waiting?
4) Did you sit your french exam?
5) Did you do your medical exams?

 

[italki]

If anyone else can contribute to this conversation please do
This topic is very important to me!

 

[edgy555]

It may be faster from where you are (Australia?) but the Quebec process took almost as long as the federal process for me. It took a year to get my CSQ (mainly due to my filing at the beginning of the summer (mistake -- summer vacations) and the Quebec delegation wanting to interview me because I was educated in/main language was English (despite having done a year of intensive French in Quebec and not needing anything more than minimal French skills to pass the assessment.) I say this only to suggest that Quebec isn't always faster. After you get a CSQ, the federal process takes about 6-8 months if everything's in order.

As far as Quebec -- the principle thing that the CSQ gets for you is reduced tuition at university (you pay the very low Quebec rate), free French classes (doesn't seem like you need them) and less hassle when you apply for things like medicare.

My general advice is only to apply for Quebec if you want to settle in Quebec. If they get a whiff of you're wanting to settle in a different part of Canada and use Quebec as a gateway, you might have problems. If you would seriously consider Quebec, know that -- as with everywhere -- there are pluses and minuses. On one hand, salaries are lower here than in other parts of Canada but housing is less expensive too. Quebec medicare covers more than other provinces' plans but it's very hard to find a family doctor here. There is a general joie de vivre here that is no doubt due to its French heritage, but you'll have to put up with Quebec's stupid language laws (your children, if you have them, will have to be educated in French -- you don't really have a choice), constant political talk of separation and "cracking down on immigrants and Anglophones who won't properly integrate."

So, mull it over and do what is truly right for you. If you qualify under the federal process and would prefer to settle in English Canada, then I'd advise you to go that route. If, however, you think you could love Quebec despite its flaws and you truly would want to make it your home (or if it's the only way you'd get to come to Canada) then choose that.

Best of luck.

 

[aghijan]

Quebec skilled worker is definitely very fast to process.

I don't think the process for Quebec is that fats. A friend's application forms received the BIQ de Damas on February 12, but he hasn't received even a file number yet. He inquired about this. The response was

Sir,
Regarding your query, kindly note that the delay to open files at the BIQ de Damas are 30 working days.
The BIQ de Damas will contact you at each level of the file.
Thank you.

Yours truly

Renseignements
Service Immigration-Québec Ouest de Montréal, secteur aéroport
Ministère de l'Immigration et des Communautés culturelles

 

[Chinaconnection]

Ok, Here is the thing. Like i said before it depends on where to process your application. I consider mine fast coz, it took me only 2 months to get Selection certificate from Hongkong office( no interview), after which i applied for PR at Canadian embassy in Beijing october 17th. Presently , i have been asked to send medicals, PR fee and Passport. So hopefully by early next month the visas will be out.As you can see it took only 10months for this process.

Good luck

 

[Chinaconnection]

Question for Edgy555,

You said if one has children they will have to be educated in french, and one has no choice. Does it mean that in Quebec there are no english schools? If parents decide to send thier children to study in other provinces while they (parents) reside in Quebec, isn't that possible?

Thanks

 

[italki]

It may be faster from where you are (Australia?) but the Quebec process took almost as long as the federal process for me. It took a year to get my CSQ (mainly due to my filing at the beginning of the summer (mistake -- summer vacations) and the Quebec delegation wanting to interview me because I was educated in/main language was English (despite having done a year of intensive French in Quebec and not needing anything more than minimal French skills to pass the assessment.) I say this only to suggest that Quebec isn't always faster. After you get a CSQ, the federal process takes about 6-8 months if everything's in order.

As far as Quebec -- the principle thing that the CSQ gets for you is reduced tuition at university (you pay the very low Quebec rate), free French classes (doesn't seem like you need them) and less hassle when you apply for things like medicare.

My general advice is only to apply for Quebec if you want to settle in Quebec. If they get a whiff of you're wanting to settle in a different part of Canada and use Quebec as a gateway, you might have problems. If you would seriously consider Quebec, know that -- as with everywhere -- there are pluses and minuses. On one hand, salaries are lower here than in other parts of Canada but housing is less expensive too. Quebec medicare covers more than other provinces' plans but it's very hard to find a family doctor here. There is a general joie de vivre here that is no doubt due to its French heritage, but you'll have to put up with Quebec's stupid language laws (your children, if you have them, will have to be educated in French -- you don't really have a choice), constant political talk of separation and "cracking down on immigrants and Anglophones who won't properly integrate."

So, mull it over and do what is truly right for you. If you qualify under the federal process and would prefer to settle in English Canada, then I'd advise you to go that route. If, however, you think you could love Quebec despite its flaws and you truly would want to make it your home (or if it's the only way you'd get to come to Canada) then choose that.

Best of luck.

Thanks so much for the information! To be honest quebec is the only light of hope for me if i want to move to Canada
because there is no way i could get a job offer in any other province before even getting there. I work in a university in administration
and even though my job comes under skilled work, i only have 1 year full time experience so i think my chances at federal level or through any other
province would be slim. I also have some relatives in Montreal (which i am not going to bother with things like sponsoring me, etc) but the mere fact
of putting on the application that i know someone there will definetely play in my favour

About Quebec as a place to live, I have been to Montreal 3 times already and it's a lovely city i must say
I am not hostile to the French language, i just want people to understand that im still learning it so it will take time
before i become proficient in it.

So what are my overall chances of getting accepted in quebec?
I have already migrated once in my life from Italy to Australia (11 years ago)
does that play in my favour?

 

[italki]

Ok, Here is the thing. Like i said before it depends on where to process your application. I consider mine fast coz, it took me only 2 months to get Selection certificate from Hongkong office( no interview), after which i applied for PR at Canadian embassy in Beijing october 17th. Presently , i have been asked to send medicals, PR fee and Passport. So hopefully by early next month the visas will be out.As you can see it took only 10months for this process.

Good luck

Hey i was wondering whether you could list the entire process you went through from beggining to end
and all the sort of forms you had to fill out

Thanks

 

[italki]

Come on guys!
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