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quebec 2017 plan, waiting for federal government announcement

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www.midi.gouv.qc.ca/publications/fr/planification/Plan-immigration-2017.pdf.

SOURCE Ministère de l'Immigration, de la Diversité et de l'Inclusion


quebec already released their plan for next year, hopefully federal gov. will release plan for next year.
 

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Announcement for 2017 plan should be coming soon and with it possible changes to EE system.

god bless you all.
 

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http://www.canadavisa.com/news/quebec-welcome-51-000-new-immigrants-in-2017-despite-opposition-calls-reduction.html. Judge 4 yourself
 

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Actually the first link is much more informative than the second one.
Important parts are following:
1. % distribution of immigrations for regions (this looks just like the green card lotery for America where such distribution is done).
2. 70% of French speakers needed.
3. 40% for the CEC like applicants (job experience in Quebec or studied there).

So what is sais.
These numbers all called for all immigrants to Quebec (including Family and Refugees). On more detailed you can see that like 10 to 12% are for refugees and something below 5% for Family. For these 2 it is really random to ask for specific region or language knowledge. I cannot do much estimation for Family members, but for refugees we will be speaking principaly about region Asia (Syria, Iraq) and America (Venezuela, Mexico....).

So cut down those 15% for Family and Refugees (where if ever most will be without language or rather English speakers) and kind of another 5% for business stream (I am simply assuming that only half will speak some French and half will not, but still well equiped with money) and you can see that what is left there is practically imperative demand for French speakers for FSW like and CEC like (90% or more). You can also see demand for CEC applicants. (like 35% from outside Canada max).

And also those numbers and nothing to celebrate at, as I see no big increase in the most common category (Quebec version of FSW). Instead I see some cuts down as other categories are more supported.

What I am missing from that is the action plan from it. Meaning what will be the admition conditions in 2017. Also it is pretty clear, that they cannot go with the old system (with that might get control over language - putting it as must, but not over regional distribution).
 

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According to what i've read they will have a point system like EE i cant find the link but i know i read something like that couple of month ago. So it is going to be like EE point based
 

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Hi. I think Quebec already has a similar scheme to EE but is closed now as they already met targets.
 

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cad143 said:
Hi. I think Quebec already has a similar scheme to EE but is closed now as they already met targets.
Nope.
Quebec has scheme similar to the old system. First you have to hit minimum point level (which is manageable for many, plus it is the only province that gives points for kids). And then they have first come first serve system in which you could post your application in the online system starting at certain date. As a result of such system all opened post were taken within 3 hours. Even if you sit at very beginning the chances to get in were less than 5% (people were using like 3 computers with 2 to 3 different browsers).
So nope until now Quebec did not have such system
 

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vensak said:
Nope.
Quebec has scheme similar to the old system. First you have to hit minimum point level (which is manageable for many, plus it is the only province that gives points for kids). And then they have first come first serve system in which you could post your application in the online system starting at certain date. As a result of such system all opened post were taken within 3 hours. Even if you sit at very beginning the chances to get in were less than 5% (people were using like 3 computers with 2 to 3 different browsers).
So nope until now Quebec did not have such system
Oh wow thanks for that information. Was actually looking for more information on that and got slightly confused as people were saying ee and qswp are kinda similar.
 

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Kinldy guide me is it nesscessary to have French language to apply for Quebec immigration . can I get immigration without it
 

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the old quebec system has come to an end last intake was 3 month ago no more for this year. They said they want 50 000 immmigrants for 2017 so im guessing they will do it using a new system similar to EE that will start next year. Even if you have enough points to qualify without french I dont recomend it. People think that quebec is bilingual but it is not truth the official language is french, if you demand for service in english they provide it to you but you can tell by their expression that they dont feel confortable. That s way people end up moving to ontario instead and only use quebec as a bridge which can occur in difficulties to obtain citizenship. So your french level must be B2 in order to able to understand co workers, news, read newspapers, read labels(supermarket,hospitals,street). Every sign is in french
 

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https://youtu.be/QCtAW8jqy_c. They fight for their language and try to keep it alive
 

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https://youtu.be/JH_-B_kcbiQ and sometimes they even over react :)