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[Apoorv90]

Here is my reply my dear.

Firstly I must congratulate you for getting a file number.

Secondly, I am a bit worried with your point computation as Chemistry under new rules fetches 6 points and not 12. So your actual points are surely 49-6 which is 43. Yes surely your file was opened with 43 points.

Thirdly, I strongly see a very high need for French knowledge for you. Why because according to the new rules, your file is provisionally opened with 43 points, and when your file reaches a level of waiting for a decision, you shall be given 18 months to submit at least a B2 in French for you to get an interview call.

Fourthly I advise you to study more English and sit again for IELTS GENERAL TRAINING since it is very easy and try to have a high score so that you can pick up the 2 points you lost-yes because you said you had 4 not 6 for Ielts which is where ANGLOPHONES get the advantage of getting all the 6 points.

Fifthly? Yes 5thly, It is my own opinion only. I wish you luck.

Stylove.

Thank you very much Stylove. And i thought AOT points will be calculated as per old rules. that's my bad luck i would say.

Do you think the seniors would reject my file directly as i m not even scored minimum required points? will they give me a chance to complete B2 level exam or it depends on their mood?

 

[Apoorv90]

Rightly said by Stylove, as qualifying points for single applicant is 49 and you have been pause to 43, that is the reason they have asked for B2, as this is the only area i guess now left which will increase your point and match the qualifying points criteria.
Hope this helps!

Thank you dear varuen.

i have replied to stylove..see if you can help me anymore.

thanks once again

 

[varuen]

To explain you my case, have a look at below:
I have applied my file under new rule after Aug'13 in November'13 and i am expecting my AOR in feb/march. With new rule you can avail french points only after completing B2, that is i guess very much tough and dont have that much time as my A1 will finish in this Feb. Also as per the new rule if you clear 63 points (if you are applying with dependent) without french that is also fine, however you should have proficiency in french to face the interview and to get adaptability points. That is the purpose i am learning french.

Now if i explain my case i have 61 points with dependent without considering 6 points of adaptability. Now i have 3 questions:
1) what are the chances that without interview I may get CSQ?
2) IF we do have basic proficiency only in french, then can be the interview in french & English both? and will it be harmful or claim as negative point for receiving CSQ?
3) Will my spouse get interviewed by visa officer? if yes then french necessary for her?
4) What are the next steps and timeframe after i get AOR

Need your input friends.

Guys looking for your answers

 

[varuen]

Thank you very much Stylove. And i thought AOT points will be calculated as per old rules. that's my bad luck i would say.

Do you think the seniors would reject my file directly as i m not even scored minimum required points? will they give me a chance to complete B2 level exam or it depends on their mood?

Somewhere in the forum, i read that visa officer provided time of 18-24 months to submit the scorecard of B1/B2.
Also would like to tell you (obviously not disappointing you) achieving B2 is like getting 8 bands in IELTS, also it will take 18-20 months to finish & reach upto B2, considering 4-5 months for each A1, A2, B1, B2 module.

 

[varuen]

How to find my NOC code for profile building. I have applied under computer engineering & I am a business analyst.

 

[Apoorv90]

Somewhere in the forum, i read that visa officer provided time of 18-24 months to submit the scorecard of B1/B2.
Also would like to tell you (obviously not disappointing you) achieving B2 is like getting 8 bands in IELTS, also it will take 18-20 months to finish & reach upto B2, considering 4-5 months for each A1, A2, B1, B2 module.

aah you are making me disappoint. i think i should give up. :'(

 

[varuen]

Hello all,
Very important for all of us!
below post I found somewhere on forum, here is the summary:

anyone who didn't complete either a high school or college in a francophone country is eligible for a one year temporary work permit with a possibility of extension. So, it means that even if you qualify according to academic credentials without good french it's impossible to be a chemist, physicist, engineer, doctor whatever in Quebec. To get a permanent permit the candidate has to pass a french exam by Immigration Culturelle upon arrival to Quebec.

any idea guys?

 

[Stylove]

Thank you very much Stylove. And i thought AOT points will be calculated as per old rules. that's my bad luck i would say.

Do you think the seniors would reject my file directly as i m not even scored minimum required points? will they give me a chance to complete B2 level exam or it depends on their mood?

Apoorv they already accepted your file in order to start processing. If you file was to be rejected they would have done so earlier and ask you for more documents or so. It was provisionally accepted and soon they will give you the chance to provide a B2 in French for further processing and an intent to reject if you don't get that in 18 months. Their mood here doesn't count, maybe, because it is clearly stated on their website that they will give you time to provide B2.

Stylove

 

[Apoorv90]

Apoorv they already accepted your file in order to start processing. If you file was to be rejected they would have done so earlier and ask you for more documents or so. It was provisionally accepted and soon they will give you the chance to provide a B2 in French for further processing and an intent to reject if you don't get that in 18 months. Their mood here doesn't count, maybe, because it is clearly stated on their website that they will give you time to provide B2.

Stylove

Ok let's hope for good. Thanks n keep it touch guys. Hope we can meet there in quebec soon

 

[kolemm]

Hello all,
Very important for all of us!
below post I found somewhere on forum, here is the summary:

anyone who didn't complete either a high school or college in a francophone country is eligible for a one year temporary work permit with a possibility of extension. So, it means that even if you qualify according to academic credentials without good french it's impossible to be a chemist, physicist, engineer, doctor whatever in Quebec. To get a permanent permit the candidate has to pass a french exam by Immigration Culturelle upon arrival to Quebec.

any idea guys?

This is serious

 

[Marlee]

Hello all,
Very important for all of us!
below post I found somewhere on forum, here is the summary:

anyone who didn't complete either a high school or college in a francophone country is eligible for a one year temporary work permit with a possibility of extension. So, it means that even if you qualify according to academic credentials without good french it's impossible to be a chemist, physicist, engineer, doctor whatever in Quebec. To get a permanent permit the candidate has to pass a french exam by Immigration Culturelle upon arrival to Quebec.

any idea guys?

To be honest, how do you possibly want to work as a doctor in Québec without being fluent in French!?
Especially in the medical field (as well as in nursing, relating to myself here) it is absolutely OBLIGATORY to be able to understand all your patients' needs and to express yourself decently. I do not even want to think about the plethora of consequences which may be followed by communication failure. This would be fatal and it is a serious matter. Same applies to chemists, physicist, engineers etc. who are dealing with hazardous substances, high voltage or heavy machinery. If anybody is hurt because instructions could not be followed correctly and people are being injured or harmed in any other way, you will be charged for bodily injury caused by negligence. This also applies to any other profession that, in any way, implies a high responsibility of human lives.

I would have never dared to move to Montréal without being fluent in French and I would as well never set foot inside a hospital as a nurse over here if I was not. If someone died because I misunderstood something, I would never forgive myself. I grew up in B.C., therefore I am anglophone and yes, as long as you stay on the island of Montréal, you can certainly survive with English - but that does not apply to those working in any profession that includes client contact. That being said, I think it is absolutely right that the government changed those laws concerning the French proficiency of those applying for permanent residence. After all, this is Québec. The official language is French here. Take it or leave it.

 

[bosschips]

To be honest, how do you possibly want to work as a doctor in Québec without being fluent in French!?
Especially in the medical field (as well as in nursing, relating to myself here) it is absolutely OBLIGATORY to be able to understand all your patients' needs and to express yourself decently. I do not even want to think about the plethora of consequences which may be followed by communication failure. This would be fatal and it is a serious matter. Same applies to chemists, physicist, engineers etc. who are dealing with hazardous substances, high voltage or heavy machinery. If anybody is hurt because instructions could not be followed correctly and people are being injured or harmed in any other way, you will be charged for bodily injury caused by negligence. This also applies to any other profession that, in any way, implies a high responsibility of human lives.

I would have never dared to move to Montréal without being fluent in French and I would as well never set foot inside a hospital as a nurse over here if I was not. If someone died because I misunderstood something, I would never forgive myself. I grew up in B.C., therefore I am anglophone and yes, as long as you stay on the island of Montréal, you can certainly survive with English - but that does not apply to those working in any profession that includes client contact. That being said, I think it is absolutely right that the government changed those laws concerning the French proficiency of those applying for permanent residence. After all, this is Québec. The official language is French here. Take it or leave it.

Well said.

 

[varuen]

=== VERY IMPORTANT===

To crack the interview french is not that much essential, because with basic french knowledge (A1/A2/B1) and good english one can crack that. But the exam which is conducted for regulated profession which comes under professional body will demand at least a level of B2 proficiency.

Check whether your profession is regulated or not here.
http://www.cicic.ca/403/occupational-profiles-for-selected-trades-and-professions.canada

If it is regulated then you have to clear the exam OQLF to get permanent work permit and to obtain a license under your QSW PR.

Read below summary to get better idea:

anyone who didn't complete either a high school or college in a francophone country is eligible for a one year temporary work permit with a possibility of extension. So, it means that even if you qualify according to academic credentials without good french it's impossible to be a chemist, physicist, engineer, doctor whatever in Quebec. To get a permanent permit the candidate has to pass a french exam by Immigration Culturelle upon arrival to Quebec.

candidates must obtain a certificate from the Office québécois de la langue française (OQLF). The certificate is issued to anyone who passes the OQLF examination, which assesses knowledge of French based on the following four criteria: written comprehension, oral comprehension, written expression, and oral expression.

may issue a temporary permit valid for one year to individuals who have obtained their diploma outside Québec and who are declared qualified to practise their profession but who have not been able to demonstrate the required level of French fluency.

 

[kolemm]

To be honest, how do you possibly want to work as a doctor in Québec without being fluent in French!?
Especially in the medical field (as well as in nursing, relating to myself here) it is absolutely OBLIGATORY to be able to understand all your patients' needs and to express yourself decently. I do not even want to think about the plethora of consequences which may be followed by communication failure. This would be fatal and it is a serious matter. Same applies to chemists, physicist, engineers etc. who are dealing with hazardous substances, high voltage or heavy machinery. If anybody is hurt because instructions could not be followed correctly and people are being injured or harmed in any other way, you will be charged for bodily injury caused by negligence. This also applies to any other profession that, in any way, implies a high responsibility of human lives.

I would have never dared to move to Montréal without being fluent in French and I would as well never set foot inside a hospital as a nurse over here if I was not. If someone died because I misunderstood something, I would never forgive myself. I grew up in B.C., therefore I am anglophone and yes, as long as you stay on the island of Montréal, you can certainly survive with English - but that does not apply to those working in any profession that includes client contact. That being said, I think it is absolutely right that the government changed those laws concerning the French proficiency of those applying for permanent residence. After all, this is Québec. The official language is French here. Take it or leave it.

Vrai. Je suis d'accord. Truly, you,re making a point.

 

[kolemm]

=== VERY IMPORTANT===

To crack the interview french is not that much essential, because with basic french knowledge (A1/A2/B1) and good english one can crack that. But the exam which is conducted for regulated profession which comes under professional body will demand at least a level of B2 proficiency.

Check whether your profession is regulated or not here.
http://www.cicic.ca/403/occupational-profiles-for-selected-trades-and-professions.canada

If it is regulated then you have to clear the exam OQLF to get permanent work permit and to obtain a license under your QSW PR.

Read below summary to get better idea:

anyone who didn't complete either a high school or college in a francophone country is eligible for a one year temporary work permit with a possibility of extension. So, it means that even if you qualify according to academic credentials without good french it's impossible to be a chemist, physicist, engineer, doctor whatever in Quebec. To get a permanent permit the candidate has to pass a french exam by Immigration Culturelle upon arrival to Quebec.

candidates must obtain a certificate from the Office québécois de la langue française (OQLF). The certificate is issued to anyone who passes the OQLF examination, which assesses knowledge of French based on the following four criteria: written comprehension, oral comprehension, written expression, and oral expression.

may issue a temporary permit valid for one year to individuals who have obtained their diploma outside Québec and who are declared qualified to practise their profession but who have not been able to demonstrate the required level of French fluency.

I think its best to just have the mindset that our ultimate goal should be writing B2. Since, many of us still aim at becoming a professional in our various fields in future.