Pure example of Injustice (Bill C-24) : seniors please guide

[CanadianCountry]

As i believe what is going to happen, majority of applications will be thrown into "non-routine" basket due to "intent to reside" and other clauses.

The "non-routine" processing time will stay the same 36 months or grow.

The little applications left as "routine" will be processed faster. The processing time for some will drop under a year from current of 24 months. But most of the applicants will suffer.

Just curious, what makes you believe that it will take <6mo to take a decisions(on majority) of Citizenship cases?

 

[asaif]

I truly and fully sympathize with you. However, there's not much you can do now to rectify this unjust situation. You are still an alien with no political rights in Canada. When you become a citizen you'll be able to change things through your vote and voice. Unfortunately, many newly naturalized Canadians forgo their political rights by non-participation, thus allowing those ruthless politicians to remain in power.

 

[MUFC]

The ruthless politicians are listening what the society wants as a majority, the problem has another source and that source is the people.
The majority of Canadians supports that law.

 

[CanadianCountry]

asaif,
What i have experienced is that the newly naturalized Canadians are against supporting the cause of the PRs and TFWs. They usually do not want to support a law which makes it any easier for the newcomers, and these newly naturalized are the biggest voice of anti-immigration. As they want to showoff their passports when they go back home and no one will be impressed if the laws were to become easier.

I truly and fully sympathize with you. However, there's not much you can do now to rectify this unjust situation. You are still an alien with no political rights in Canada. When you become a citizen you'll be able to change things through your vote and voice. Unfortunately, many newly naturalized Canadians forgo their political rights by non-participation, thus allowing those ruthless politicians to remain in power.

 

[asaif]

The ruthless politicians are listening what the society wants as a majority, the problem has another source and that source is the people.
The majority of Canadians supports that law.

I believe the majority of Germans during the 1930's were with the Nazis. Having the majority in your side doesn't make you right or just. Changing the rules in the middle of a process without considering how these changes affect the life of people who already made substantial commitments and sacrifices is ruthless, regardless of how many people support them.

One more thing .. I know from a different thread that you are not interested in getting the Canadian citizenship. So why do you care that much about citizenship applicants? What are you doing in this forum in the first place? Does it help you to see other applicants suffer just to prove to yourself that you were right not to apply? Don't you have something better to do in your life? Just curious !!

 

[MUFC]

I'm making my money online from my home and that's why I have a lot of time for myself.
Yes I've decided not to apply for citizenship , because I already have the same benefits from my native citizenship.

I'm not going to lock myself here just for a Canadian citizenship, that price is simply too high for me.

But that doesn't mean that I don't feel empathy for all the affected newcomers.

 

[asaif]

asaif,
What i have experienced is that the newly naturalized Canadians are against supporting the cause of the PRs and TFWs. They usually do not want to support a law which makes it any easier for the newcomers, and these newly naturalized are the biggest voice of anti-immigration. As they want to showoff their passports when they go back home and no one will be impressed if the laws were to become easier.

I know that many immigrants have an inferiority complex and want to prove that they are "whiter" than a white Canadians. These are sick fellows. A normal person would like to see more new immigrants sharing his culture, beliefs and values and forming a network that support him and strengthens his position in the society.

 

[cprak0]

Just curious, what makes you believe that it will take <6mo to take a decisions(on majority) of Citizenship cases?

Just was trying to make the point that everything may not be all that bad. Raising the fee from $100 to $630 within
2yrs and having all these changes apparently to speed up the process... the processing must just get faster.
Nothing wrong with is trying to see the positives!

 

[MUFC]

If the intend to reside clause was not placed in the law then we could could expect the processing time to become faster.

But unfortunately the intend to reside is one of the main factors in this law so it will be tested properly, hence again long processing times can be expected.

 

[CanadianCountry]

Processing times will go up not low for most applicants.

If the intend to reside clause was not placed in the law then we could could expect the processing time to become faster.

But unfortunately the intend to reside is one of the main factors in this law so it will be tested properly, hence again long processing times can be expected.

 

[MUFC]

This is what I'm expecting too.
Longer processing times because of the Intend to Reside clause.

 

[aammaadmi]

Can someone fill me with what is changed in law and who are affected?

 

[AUTO101]

Hi All

I am new to Canada Visa forums. Please guide me, when can I apply for my Citizenship
Came to Canada in July , 2007........Got PR (took 39 months due to closer of Buffalo office---Injustice 1) in SW on March, 2013.......out of country for 57 days only.
Residence calculator say July 7, 2015

I will be punish by Canada Immigration without any reason (Injustice 2 ), due to their problem by taking longer for PR. My friends who applied PR 2 months before me already Citizens in 2013 (not jelous just unfair). If bill C-24 applied before my application, i will not be able to apply till July , 2017. Considering 0 out of country days.

Plz guide me , what can do

I don't know why are you complaining?? Canada has no obligations to give you or anyone else the PR or citizenship (if you are not born here or child of a Canadian parent). You were out of country for 57 days. CIC didn't ask you to be absent for that long. Had you not been gone for that long, you would qualify earlier and won't whine about it.... INJUSTICE, seriously?? you should be thankful to CANADA that they allow people from other countries to become CITIZEN. Go to DUBAI or some other countries and best of luck trying to be their citizens.

Instead of being thankful, you are complaining about injustice... wow.. what a world we live in.... Canadian citizenship is a privilege not a right (always remember that)

 

[ZingyDNA]

Just was trying to make the point that everything may not be all that bad. Raising the fee from $100 to $630 within
2yrs and having all these changes apparently to speed up the process... the processing must just get faster.
Nothing wrong with is trying to see the positives!

What? $100 processing fee 2 years ago? Well that was cheap, by CIC standards LOL

 

[asaif]

Just imagine this hypothetical (yet realistic) scenario: In 2018 a new citizenship law is approved and implemented by which the only way to obtain the Canadian citizenship is by birth to a Canadian parent. The law is constitutional, supported by the majority and consistent with the citizenship laws of most nations ... hence it is not 'unjust' .. right?

Wrong .. here you forget about the ~ 1 million immigrants who landed in Canada between 2014 and 2018 and won't have a chance to become Canadians (which is the sole reason they left their countries and came to Canada). Those immigrants forgo other opportunities, incurred substantial costs, and wasted years of their life just to be denied what they have been implicitly promised when they applied for immigration. I understand that there is no legal bond on Canada to grant them its citizenship but everyone knows that this is wrong. If you don't see this crystal clear fact you have something wrong with your moral standards.

What I have just mentioned is an extreme case of what we are discussing here: Someone who comes to Canada expecting to be able to apply for citizenship after a certain period and at a certain cost (as per the rules when he applied) but is surprised by changes in the rules that, if known to him earlier, would have him take a different turn in his life.