Proof of Relationship to Sponsor

[bainer04]

I'm gathering all the proof that me and my wife have documented for Proof of our relationship. I have a two of questions.

1. For pictures how many should be included. As many as possible or like 10 or 20 is enough?

2. Skype/Viber conversations do they need the whole entire print out of our conversations or do I only need a snippets like partial months or full months here and there. Also is there a certain formate they want it printed in?

 

[Christoph100]

I'm gathering all the proof that me and my wife have documented for Proof of our relationship. I have a two of questions.

1. For pictures how many should be included. As many as possible or like 10 or 20 is enough?

2. Skype/Viber conversations do they need the whole entire print out of our conversations or do I only need a snippets like partial months or full months here and there. Also is there a certain formate they want it printed in?

1. 20 should be fine the important thing is to include pictures of importance such as wedding photos, photos of visits with each other, pictures with you two and friends in the photos. Just choose what you think would be important enough to show relationship is true and continues. Also date and label the pictures as best as you can with who is in it and the location and if it was an event.

2. a book is not needed. What we had done for our application was to include 5 pages out of every month from the start of the relationship up to the time of sending in the app.

Chris.

 

[bainer04]

Awesome thanks Chris. I was wondering for Skype cause it would be so much paper to print. With the pictures you printed on the back of them the event or relevant date? is that what they are looking for?

 

[Christoph100]

Awesome thanks Chris. I was wondering for Skype cause it would be so much paper to print. With the pictures you printed on the back of them the event or relevant date? is that what they are looking for?

For skype, facebook,Yahoo,etc I printed 5 pages of each one from every month. On the back of the pictures I wrote who was in it, the date, and the location/event on each one individually. Be prepared to also not get those pictures back so if they are important to you have copies or digital made for yourselves.
We lucked out my wife received all our pictures back when she got her visa/COPR . Of course I told her to leave them there for mom and dad and the rest of her family.

Chris.

 

[MilesAway]

The amount of proof required also depends on your particular case. If you've been married for 20 years, have 4 kids, and are from a visa-exempt country, you could send in 10 pictures and minimal amounts of chat without a problem. If you met and got married very quickly, and are from a country that isn't visa-exempt, your burden of proof is much higher.

When you send pictures, it's best to send a variety of pictures. Don't send pictures of only the wedding, send them from different locations. I sent 5 from the wedding day, showing the guests, the officiant, and some of the dinner afterwards. I also sent a few pictures from each year.

We didn't print off the e-mails. I just took screenshots of the inbox, showing the number of e-mails in there from her. I printed off the Skype call log, although that wasn't a lot, because we've been living together for 3 years, so we don't have a lot of reason to call each other.

You want to show them the whole picture, so send them bits and pieces that all come together to prove that your relationship is genuine.

 

[Mapleson]

There are two components to this question: enough to meet the burden of proof and the possible impact of application size on processing times.

As MilesAway said, the burden of proof varies by case, and if you send too little, there are delays while they request more.

As for the idea of sending too much information and getting bogged down on the other end of the scale, there is little/no empirical evidence or analysis of this, so we can't say one way or the other. We can only relate antidotes about specific experiences. I've started a spreadsheet to collect information about this, to answer the question if there is a 'point of too much', but don't have enough data yet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1emfPFIgeP5Qcb_y7hPGUG2Tr2ydzOndmdes999mfkZE/edit?usp=sheets_home

 

[Christoph100]

As for the idea of sending too much information and getting bogged down on the other end of the scale, there is little/no empirical evidence or analysis of this, so we can't say one way or the other. We can only relate antidotes about specific experiences.

There has been a few members that have had sent way too much communication logs.(thousands+) It was in their GCMS notes File too large. Over abundance and being sent out for shredding. I don't recall exactly who it was there has been a few like this.

Chris.

 

[Mapleson]

There has been a few members that have had sent way too much communication logs.(thousands+) It was in their GCMS notes File too large. Over abundance and being sent out for shredding. I don't recall exactly who it was there has been a few like this.

Chris.

I did a forum search for "abundance" and didn't come up with anything. "Shred" came up with better results, but it seems like only redundant papers are destroyed after they are useful. This still doesn't give any reliable information about processing times being slowed by an over abundance, if at all. At best, you easily pass the burden of proof and they excess is destroyed. At worst, they need to review everything before reaching a decision.

 

[bainer04]

Thanks for your guys responses. We have only been married for about one year but we have a child together. We are also waiting on his citizenship paper work to come in. We don't have a file number yet but already received the original documents back.

Do you guys know if you can apply for a Canadian passport while waiting for citizenship?

As for our conversation i'm going to pick bits here and there out of each month to showcase our relationship. Is there some kind of format they want it in cause if I just copy and print from words whats to say I didn't change what was written. I guess there is no way for them to get something that will prove its the actual conversation.

 

[Christoph100]

Do you guys know if you can apply for a Canadian passport while waiting for citizenship?

Sorry you need to have your Canadian Citizenship in order to apply/have a Canadian Passport.

Chris.

 

[BeShoo]

Keep the number of pictures and amount of chat transcripts to a minimum. Remember that these are evidence. Try to avoid duplication. If something is shown in one picture, don't include another picture of the same thing. They would like to see evidence that your relationship has developed over time and that you have been to different places together, have met each other's family and friends, and things like that.

You're right that chat transcripts could probably be faked and it's hard to prove they are real, but if they show a loving relationship or plans for your lives together, that's what you're aiming for. I would try not to include too many.

You can print your pictures from a word processing document with captions below if you have them in electronic format or you can label pictures on the back. I tried to include the date, possibly the place, and who was in the picture (with how they were related to the applicant or sponsor). You may or may not get the pictures back afterwards. Prepare everything as if it were going to be fed into a scanner and you should be fine with the format. (No books, pictures attached to a sheet of paper, etc.) I kept most of my papers one-sided so they wouldn't miss something on the back.

 

[markanthonycuerpo]

For skype, facebook,Yahoo,etc I printed 5 pages of each one from every month. On the back of the pictures I wrote who was in it, the date, and the location/event on each one individually. Be prepared to also not get those pictures back so if they are important to you have copies or digital made for yourselves.
We lucked out my wife received all our pictures back when she got her visa/COPR . Of course I told her to leave them there for mom and dad and the rest of her family.

Chris.

Hi Chris,

I have a question, what I did for the pictures I pasted it the white paper for each picture and put important details on it, so its not like combined in a rubber band, do you think its acceptable? I've read a post somewhere here, that I need to find a way so it will be easy for the officer to evaluate the documents so I did it that way, I dont know if they will allow it like that. I hope you can give me advise.
Thank You in advance.