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proof of relationship - not enough calls?

rand75

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Feb 24, 2016
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Me and my wife talk to each other every day using whatapp text messaging, at least 3-4 hours total every day. Because we talk so much on text, we only call each other about 2-3 times a month just to hear each other's voice. Now Singapore Visa office is asking my wife to submit proof of ongoing communication, and i'm worried that they will get suspicious when they see that we only call each other 2-3 times a month. I'm even more worried because I see everyone including things like facebook, but I don't have a facebook account or anything similar (only my wife has facebook). We also don't do skype video calls because my wife's internet connection is unreliable, and we don't email each other either because we don't really need to.

This is what the visa officer is asking my wife: "Proof of ongoing communication with your sponsor such as WhatsApp and Skype records"

What should I do? Is it enough to just send the chat logs? :(
 

Shineon39

Hero Member
Dec 3, 2015
681
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Yellowknife, Northwest territories
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Singapore
App. Filed.......
22-10-2015
Nomination.....
Csq received 26-01-2016
AOR Received.
11-12-2015 AOR2: 07-01-2016
File Transfer...
17-12-2015
Med's Done....
10-09-2015
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
07-06-2016
VISA ISSUED...
20-06-2016
LANDED..........
02-09-2016
I would send everything you got and write a letter explaining the situation.
DONT LIE, you'll get screw if you do.
 

Sous02

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Jul 25, 2015
972
59
Category........
Visa Office......
warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-16
Doc's Request.
22-08-2016
AOR Received.
06-05-16
File Transfer...
28-05-16
Med's Done....
Up front/passed
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
10-10-2016
VISA ISSUED...
17-10-2016
LANDED..........
02-11-2016
rand75 said:
Me and my wife talk to each other every day using whatapp text messaging, at least 3-4 hours total every day. Because we talk so much on text, we only call each other about 2-3 times a month just to hear each other's voice. Now Singapore Visa office is asking my wife to submit proof of ongoing communication, and i'm worried that they will get suspicious when they see that we only call each other 2-3 times a month. I'm even more worried because I see everyone including things like facebook, but I don't have a facebook account or anything similar (only my wife has facebook). We also don't do skype video calls because my wife's internet connection is unreliable, and we don't email each other either because we don't really need to.

This is what the visa officer is asking my wife: "Proof of ongoing communication with your sponsor such as WhatsApp and Skype records"


What should I do? Is it enough to just send the chat logs? :(
Well you can't send what you do not have so make sure you include a letter explaining why you do not skype etc. do you send cards or gifts? Pictures of those help
 

rand75

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Feb 24, 2016
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Shineon39 said:
I would send everything you got and write a letter explaining the situation.
DONT LIE, you'll get screw if you do.
I am already screwed because the visa officer will probably ask my wife for an interview which will take another year to schedule. I need her with me and I can't bear the thought of being separated for that long.
 

rand75

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Feb 24, 2016
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Sous02 said:
Well you can't send what you do not have so make sure you include a letter explaining why you do not skype etc. do you send cards or gifts? Pictures of those help
I have money transfer receipts for every month, and i have 2 cards: one for her birthday and one for mine.
 

Sous02

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Jul 25, 2015
972
59
Category........
Visa Office......
warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-16
Doc's Request.
22-08-2016
AOR Received.
06-05-16
File Transfer...
28-05-16
Med's Done....
Up front/passed
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
10-10-2016
VISA ISSUED...
17-10-2016
LANDED..........
02-11-2016
rand75 said:
I have money transfer receipts for every month, and i have 2 cards: one for her birthday and one for mine.
You really need to think hard or you are looking at an interview. Those are good but I encourage you to really think.
 

Sous02

Hero Member
Jul 25, 2015
972
59
Category........
Visa Office......
warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-16
Doc's Request.
22-08-2016
AOR Received.
06-05-16
File Transfer...
28-05-16
Med's Done....
Up front/passed
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
10-10-2016
VISA ISSUED...
17-10-2016
LANDED..........
02-11-2016
rand75 said:
I am already screwed because the visa officer will probably ask my wife for an interview which will take another year to schedule. I need her with me and I can't bear the thought of being separated for that long.
Then as a visa officer which I am not I would question why you do not skype. The other person could go to a friends, Internet cafe etc. those are what the officer will wonder about.
 

Sous02

Hero Member
Jul 25, 2015
972
59
Category........
Visa Office......
warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-04-16
Doc's Request.
22-08-2016
AOR Received.
06-05-16
File Transfer...
28-05-16
Med's Done....
Up front/passed
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
10-10-2016
VISA ISSUED...
17-10-2016
LANDED..........
02-11-2016
rand75 said:
Me and my wife talk to each other every day using whatapp text messaging, at least 3-4 hours total every day. Because we talk so much on text, we only call each other about 2-3 times a month just to hear each other's voice. Now Singapore Visa office is asking my wife to submit proof of ongoing communication, and i'm worried that they will get suspicious when they see that we only call each other 2-3 times a month. I'm even more worried because I see everyone including things like facebook, but I don't have a facebook account or anything similar (only my wife has facebook). We also don't do skype video calls because my wife's internet connection is unreliable, and we don't email each other either because we don't really need to.

This is what the visa officer is asking my wife: "Proof of ongoing communication with your sponsor such as WhatsApp and Skype records"

What should I do? Is it enough to just send the chat logs? :(
Did your wife post on Facebook about you, the marriage or your relationship? If so include screen shots
 

CanUkrz

Star Member
Dec 11, 2014
54
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-01-2016
AOR Received.
08-03-2016
File Transfer...
08-03-2016
Med's Done....
01-09-2015
Passport Req..
19-05-2016
If you talk on text for 4 hours a day on WhatsApp, why not screen shot some conversations showing a long period of continued communication??? My wife did the same on Skype, email, and WhatsApp, no issues... Make screen shots using your phone and print them off.
 

Decoy24601

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Aug 13, 2015
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Vancouver, BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-04-2016
AOR Received.
28-04-2016
File Transfer...
SA 27-05-2016
Med's Done....
23-03-2016 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
VISA ISSUED...
07-06-2016
LANDED..........
06-07-2016
CanUkrz said:
If you talk on text for 4 hours a day on WhatsApp, why not screen shot some conversations showing a long period of continued communication??? My wife did the same on Skype, email, and WhatsApp, no issues... Make screen shots using your phone and print them off.
I think what rand is worried about is that these conversations are over text, not actual voice calls.
 

rand75

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Feb 24, 2016
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CanUkrz said:
If you talk on text for 4 hours a day on WhatsApp, why not screen shot some conversations showing a long period of continued communication??? My wife did the same on Skype, email, and WhatsApp, no issues... Make screen shots using your phone and print them off.
Whatsapp has an email feature that i can use to send them all my messages. It's nearly 500 pages and i can send that if it will satisfy them.
 

rand75

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Feb 24, 2016
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Decoy24601 said:
I think what rand is worried about is that these conversations are over text, not actual voice calls.
Yes, i am worried they'll ask questions why we don't talk over the phone more than 2-3 times a month.
 

Decoy24601

Champion Member
Aug 13, 2015
1,511
52
Vancouver, BC
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-04-2016
AOR Received.
28-04-2016
File Transfer...
SA 27-05-2016
Med's Done....
23-03-2016 Upfront
Interview........
Waived
VISA ISSUED...
07-06-2016
LANDED..........
06-07-2016
rand75 said:
Yes, i am worried they'll ask questions why we don't talk over the phone more than 2-3 times a month.
There's a chance that the individual officer may wonder why you don't talk on actual voice calls very often, but it's dependent on how strict that individual officer is when it comes to this. Do I think you should be worried? No. Could it possibly raise questions? Yes. You have ample amounts of proof of communication besides that, so it's not like your only communication is speaking 3-4 times a month.

There was a time when I was very busy and just didn't have time to have a full conversation over the phone with my husband more than maybe once a week. We would text throughout the day, which allowed us to do other things while we were talking, but he also visited me once every 3-4 weeks and we have plenty of proofs of relationship besides this, along with the fact that I'm American and Ottawa is not a very tough VO.
 

rand75

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Feb 24, 2016
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Thank you everyone for the advice. I am not worried, i will be truthful and send what i have. If they end up asking my wife for an interview, that is OK because we have nothing to hide, but if they make her wait for a year, i will throw my canadian passport in the trash and move to her instead.
 

CanUkrz

Star Member
Dec 11, 2014
54
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
07-01-2016
AOR Received.
08-03-2016
File Transfer...
08-03-2016
Med's Done....
01-09-2015
Passport Req..
19-05-2016
The fact is you have what you have! You cannot make up anything so send everything you got and explain if needed. You cannot go back in time and change what has been done. Hope and pray all goes well.

You'll be fine!