Proof of Conjugal Relationship

[pedropil]

hello guys,

For inland Application in the document checklist IMM 5443

the proof of conjugal relationship.

is that the same with proof of marriage? that you need to provide in the IMM 5285 Spouse/Common law questonaire Question number 12.

pls advice thank you

 

[Sous02]

I would be surprised if you are in a conjugal relationship with an inland application. My understanding is that there is something preventing your marriage. I of course could be wrong just alerting you to double check.

 

[pedropil]

Theres no problem. Just double checking because im confused.

 

[canadianwoman]

They want specific evidence that you are in a conjugal relationship if that is what you are claiming. If you are common-law or married, this specific evidence is not needed. It is very difficult to prove conjugal, so more evidence is needed.

However, even if you are common-law or married, you still have to prove your relationship is genuine. IMM 5285 question 12 is giving you a chance to explain your relationship more fully and to include any evidence that was not already mentioned in the answers to other questions.

 

[CDNPR2014]

i am also confused by this. is proving a conjugal relationship actually part of the inland application? doesn't inland already suggest the couple is living together in a relationship? i thought conjugal was specific to those who can't be together for specific immigration barriers, so i don't understand how it would be a part of the inland application in addition to relationship proof. any insights?

 

[Ponga]

A genuine marriage is still a conjugal type relationship. This is NOT the same as a conjugal partner relationship.

The proof of the relationship overlaps and basically covers both.

 

[DB2101]

I'm not sure but I would imagine you'd need to give a valid reason that prevented you from living together - i.e. religious reasons or such. Much more difficult if you aren't also separated geographically.

 

[CDNPR2014]

A genuine marriage is still a conjugal type relationship. This is NOT the same as a conjugal partner relationship.

The proof of the relationship overlaps and basically covers both.

so then does the inland app require to submit information for both? is this form the op is asking about necessary?

 

[Nyhiraba]

hello guys,

For inland Application in the document checklist IMM 5443

the proof of conjugal relationship.

is that the same with proof of marriage? that you need to provide in the IMM 5285 Spouse/Common law questonaire Question number 12.

pls advice thank you

Marriage is different from conjugal relationship. For proof of conjugal relationship read pages 19-22 of this manual on CIC's website: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf

 

[canadianwoman]

They really want proof the relationship is genuine. This is needed for sponsoring a married spouse, a common-law spouse, and a conjugal partner.

To sponsor a conjugal partner, you will need more proof that the relationship is genuine, as well as proof that you cannot live together or get married.

The form IMM 5443 has three boxes to check, one for married spouses, one for common-law spouses, and one for conjugal partners. If you are married or common-law, the conjugal part is not necessary. However, note that the evidence they ask for in the conjugal part is mostly stuff that you should be providing as well if you are married or common-law.

So provide proof that the relationship is genuine. You can write a letter explaining your relationship further and providing more proof for question 12 of IMM 5285.

 

[pedropil]

Thank you guys. It's all clear now.

 

[SAMANTALA]

They really want proof the relationship is genuine. This is needed for sponsoring a married spouse, a common-law spouse, and a conjugal partner.

To sponsor a conjugal partner, you will need more proof that the relationship is genuine, as well as proof that you cannot live together or get married.

The form IMM 5443 has three boxes to check, one for married spouses, one for common-law spouses, and one for conjugal partners. If you are married or common-law, the conjugal part is not necessary. However, note that the evidence they ask for in the conjugal part is mostly stuff that you should be providing as well if you are married or common-law.

So provide proof that the relationship is genuine. You can write a letter explaining your relationship further and providing more proof for question 12 of IMM 5285.

Please Help Cry

Proof of Relationship to Sponsor if you are a Common-law or Conjugal partner, provide a minimum of 2 Statutory Declarations from individuals with personal knowledge of your relationship supporting your claim that the relationship is genuine and continuing.
Is it okay just their own explanation then sign or is it really need to be notarize?

Spouse Sponsored Questionnaire IMM5490
#11 Did your sponsor meet any of your close friends /family etc..
Is it really need all my sponsor met have a photo? There was one person I forgot to take a picture with her.

Living arrangements and financial support
#27 Check “Yes” or “No” to indicate if you and your sponsor have lived together.

If you answer “No”, explain why.

If you answer “Yes”, provide the dates for the periods of cohabitation (From – To).

His 3 visits (21 days only) was we stayed in hotel together is it not considered cohabitation or just a stay instead the considered is the 1 year stay living together in a house or apartment rent here in Philippines! We are applying common law.

 

[Sous02]

I am a little confused. You are applying common law but you mention only three 21 day stays in hotels. You need to have lived together for one full year to qualify.

 

[canadianwoman]

Two of the declarations from family and friends have to be notarized. You can get other people to write letters as well, but they want two statutory declarations. A few people on the forum did not send in two notarized declarations, and were approved anyway. I would not risk it.

You do not need a photo to prove that the applicant has met everyone on the list. A photo would be good, but is not a requirement.

For question 27, there is some disagreement. They do not mean just the one-year cohabitation required for common-law - they mean any time you stayed together overnight. So in your situation I would say yes, then explain clearly that you stayed in a hotel together for 21 days, and attach proof.
Some people would put no here, but if you do you must also explain clearly that you did in fact stay in a hotel together for 21 days. I have read many appeal decisions, and the judges clearly expect people to mention any time they have stayed together in this question. However, as long as you clearly explain that you stayed together in a hotel and provide proof of this, saying yes or no will be OK.

 

[SAMANTALA]

Two of the declarations from family and friends have to be notarized. You can get other people to write letters as well, but they want two statutory declarations. A few people on the forum did not send in two notarized declarations, and were approved anyway. I would not risk it.

You do not need a photo to prove that the applicant has met everyone on the list. A photo would be good, but is not a requirement.

For question 27, there is some disagreement. They do not mean just the one-year cohabitation required for common-law - they mean any time you stayed together overnight. So in your situation I would say yes, then explain clearly that you stayed in a hotel together for 21 days, and attach proof.
Some people would put no here, but if you do you must also explain clearly that you did in fact stay in a hotel together for 21 days. I have read many appeal decisions, and the judges clearly expect people to mention any time they have stayed together in this question. However, as long as you clearly explain that you stayed together in a hotel and provide proof of this, saying yes or no will be OK.

Thank you very much for the reply ;D

His 3 visits was we stayed in a hotel but his 4th or current visit was September 1, 2015 up to now his here with me in the apartment rent, he will be 1 year on August 2016, but I told him he can extend his stay for another 2 months just to finish the application and submit.