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mycroft1988

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Hey all
I have submitted my application a while back, current status is "in process" for a month now.
What i am asking is, is that a normal time period? How much time does it usually take to move from that status to the next one.
Some background:

Born abroad to a canadian mother (born in canada), sent with my application her birth certificate, her current canadian passport, my birth certificate, their marriage certificate.
Sent the application from New York, U.S, where i currently reside.

Timeline for my application:
  1. We received your application for a citizenship certificate (proof of Canadian citizenship) on March 12, 2019.
  2. We sent you correspondence acknowledging receipt of your application(s) on April 10, 2019.
  3. We started processing your application on May 2, 2019.
Since then nothing.
Any thoughts about what to be done? Or should i just wait?
Anyone else applied in march and got the proof?
Thank you in advance
 
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Rullence

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If still no update by 1st week of July, u may want request for gcms notes. Turnaround between acknowledgment of receipt (AOR) and in process/decision made, if everything is in order from IRCCs perspective, is usually 2-3 months.

We relatively have the same case. I am born to a canadian father. My ECAS status is AOR since January 28, 2019. In April, my instinct tells me that something seemed not right. I decided to request for gcms notes. Only to find out that in March 22, 2019 they sent me a notice of delay that i never received. Contrary to ECAS, GCMS Notes Status is "in process". And the notes at the bottom read something like " Referred to Program Support - DNA testing suggested by Embassy"

Currently waiting for the official communication from IRCC regarding the DNA test. Which i wouldnt have known if i hadnt requested for GCMS.

Last week, maybe premature, but i sent them a web form to send me the DNA test request urgently, if possible, considering my dad's age.

You may want to follow my suggested timeline and action points.
 
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mycroft1988

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If still no update by 1st week of July, u may want request for gcms notes. Turnaround between acknowledgment of receipt (AOR) and in process/decision made, if everything is in order from IRCCs perspective, is usually 2-3 months.

We relatively have the same case. I am born to a canadian father. My ECAS status is AOR since January 28, 2019. In April, my instinct tells me that something seemed not right. I decided to request for gcms notes. Only to find out that in March 22, 2019 they sent me a notice of delay that i never received. Contrary to ECAS, GCMS Notes Status is "in process". And the notes at the bottom read something like " Referred to Program Support - DNA testing suggested by Embassy"

Currently waiting for the official communication from IRCC regarding the DNA test. Which i wouldnt have known if i hadnt requested for GCMS.

Last week, maybe premature, but i sent them a web form to send me the DNA test request urgently, if possible, considering my dad's age.

You may want to follow my suggested timeline and action points.

thanks for the answer!
from a quick check, you may apply for GCMS only if you reside in canada, which i am not.
also, if you don't mind me asking, where did you submit the application from? would you mind to submit your process and background in order to figure out similarities and maybe understand why they would ask that from you\us?
 

Rullence

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Thats not entirely true. I am in the philippines and submitted my application through the Philippine embassy. I applied gcms notes which i have been supplied with. They sent it to my email.

Dad is canadian. My canadian dad and filipina mother met and married in canada. Long story short, my mom went back to philippines and my dad followed her after. Stayed in philippines for a year. And then, i was born.

Im not sure why they are requesting dna. To me, in all fairness, documents are complete and consistent. No name issues, birthday or whatever. All is in order.

Additional Supporting docs submitted were:
My dads canadian passport with philippine visa entry and exit stamps

Medical certification from the hospital where i was delivered

My birth certificate with my complete dads name

My parents marriage contract

My proof of identification govt issued

I am still unsure why they considered my application as non routine and requiring me to undergo dna test.
 

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thanks for the answer!
from a quick check, you may apply for GCMS only if you reside in canada, which i am not.
also, if you don't mind me asking, where did you submit the application from? would you mind to submit your process and background in order to figure out similarities and maybe understand why they would ask that from you\us?
GCMS can be applied by people staying in Canada and those who are staying outside can use the third party service
 

mycroft1988

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Jun 2, 2019
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Thats not entirely true. I am in the philippines and submitted my application through the Philippine embassy. I applied gcms notes which i have been supplied with. They sent it to my email.

Dad is canadian. My canadian dad and filipina mother met and married in canada. Long story short, my mom went back to philippines and my dad followed her after. Stayed in philippines for a year. And then, i was born.

Im not sure why they are requesting dna. To me, in all fairness, documents are complete and consistent. No name issues, birthday or whatever. All is in order.

Additional Supporting docs submitted were:
My dads canadian passport with philippine visa entry and exit stamps

Medical certification from the hospital where i was delivered

My birth certificate with my complete dads name

My parents marriage contract

My proof of identification govt issued

I am still unsure why they considered my application as non routine and requiring me to undergo dna test.

Thank you for the information!
I agree it all sounds very straight forward.
They don't expand on the reason for the dna test?
The only thing i can think of, and again just from trying to reason it on my head and not from knowledge, is that maybe they want to make sure that you are your father son. Since there is probably no doubt about the mother.
But it will seem odd for requesting such a procedure while your parents are married.
Any way, i hope you will get your answers fast enough and will resolve the issue in hand.
Good luck!
 
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Copingwithlife

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Why would it be odd requesting the procedure just because they are married ? The IRCC is checking to make sure there’s a genetic link between the father and the son
Marriage doesn’t guarantee that
 

Rullence

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I am not justifying my link to my father just because of my parent's marriage only. If u will read closely, i said all documents were consistent even medical records.

Also, seemed like sydney was convinced but it was manila office that suggested to undergo the procedure.

Based on your statement, DNA testing is one of the requirements in claiming citizenship for persons born outside canada. This is contrary to irccs website which reads that it is the last resort.
 

Copingwithlife

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I’m well aware what you wrote , I read it, thank you very much. Have you thought of contacting the IRCC and asking them ?
From the IRCC website

An applicant may be given the option of undergoing DNA testing in cases in which documentary evidence has been examined and there are still doubts about the authenticity of a parent-child genetic relationship or when it is not possible to obtain satisfactory relationship documents. A DNA test to prove a genetic relationship should be suggested by IRCC only as a last resort.

Guess they have doubts

Balls in your court
 
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Rullence

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In the GMCS notes, it clearly reads "embassy suggested DNA testing". I never thought that the embassy has this huge amount of influence to make an application go to Program Support. Lol.

Anyways, already sent IRCC a webform to send me the "DNA test request", if possible, the earliest time given my dad's age. I have no issue with the procedure. I was more concerned on The timeline of Program Support. Again, my dad is 70 and time is of the essence.
 

canuck78

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Thats not entirely true. I am in the philippines and submitted my application through the Philippine embassy. I applied gcms notes which i have been supplied with. They sent it to my email.

Dad is canadian. My canadian dad and filipina mother met and married in canada. Long story short, my mom went back to philippines and my dad followed her after. Stayed in philippines for a year. And then, i was born.

Im not sure why they are requesting dna. To me, in all fairness, documents are complete and consistent. No name issues, birthday or whatever. All is in order.

Additional Supporting docs submitted were:
My dads canadian passport with philippine visa entry and exit stamps

Medical certification from the hospital where i was delivered

My birth certificate with my complete dads name

My parents marriage contract

My proof of identification govt issued

I am still unsure why they considered my application as non routine and requiring me to undergo dna test.
I am not justifying my link to my father just because of my parent's marriage only. If u will read closely, i said all documents were consistent even medical records.

Also, seemed like sydney was convinced but it was manila office that suggested to undergo the procedure.

Based on your statement, DNA testing is one of the requirements in claiming citizenship for persons born outside canada. This is contrary to irccs website which reads that it is the last resort.
There was a year long separation period between your mother and father and you are applying later in life if I am reading correctly. It is not an uncommon request.
 
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canuck78

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Hey all
I have submitted my application a while back, current status is "in process" for a month now.
What i am asking is, is that a normal time period? How much time does it usually take to move from that status to the next one.
Some background:

Born abroad to a canadian mother (born in canada), sent with my application her birth certificate, her current canadian passport, my birth certificate, their marriage certificate.
Sent the application from New York, U.S, where i currently reside.

Timeline for my application:
  1. We received your application for a citizenship certificate (proof of Canadian citizenship) on March 12, 2019.
  2. We sent you correspondence acknowledging receipt of your application(s) on April 10, 2019.
  3. We started processing your application on May 2, 2019.
Since then nothing.
Any thoughts about what to be done? Or should i just wait?
Anyone else applied in march and got the proof?
Thank you in advance
Yes can take around 10 months I believe. Confused if she has a passport already why do you need proof of citizenship?
 
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Rullence

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Agree @ canuck.

I havent seen my dad for 20 long years. Mom doesnt want to be in Canada because of climate. Dad doesnt like in the Philippines. Parents had no idea about Canadian by descent. But theyre not separated. Dad calls everyday and sends money to mom. Pardon the personal matters. Just wanted to share my agony of not seeing my parent for decades

I only knew about it after i started reading about applying tourist Visa to Canada as visitor to see my dad. It led me here.
 
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mycroft1988

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Jun 2, 2019
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Yes can take around 10 months I believe. Confused if she has a passport already why do you need proof of citizenship?
my mother has an updated passport. which obviously proves that she is Canadian (besides the birth certificate that we have as well from the early 50's - we wanted to play safe).
but i need a proof of citizenship for myself, since i was born abroad and my mother didn't register me\ applied on my behalf when i was a minor.
hope i answered you and you understand my position more.
 
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