Proof from begining of Relationship

[BostonGirl]

Everyone here seems to have all sorts of proof from the very begining of their relationship.
Photos, emails, phone logs everything!

We do not.

We can not get our phone logs because I have free long distance (We talk constantly)
I deleted old facebook anouncements and we didn't send emails.
I didn't save our MSN.
Neither of us had a camera for a while and we have only had Skype for 4 months.
(and that is spotty because of his internet connection).

I am scared seeing how everyone has proof from day one.
It doesn't even seem natural to have that kind of "Proof"

My question is, should I worry? Are any of you here in this boat?
Has anyone gotten to be with their love with out it?

Thank you

 

[MandiF]

Hi BostonGirl,

I think everyone has different types of evidence from the relationship but hopefully you can find something that shows you have had contact.

Even with free long distance, does the numbers not show up on your call log? I have free long distance on my landline and it shows up as the duration and number called, but just no cost.

I can understand why you didn't do emails if you spoke all the time, but surely, you sent some sort of letters or cards or something at some point in your relationship? I've not been lucky enough to be with my now husband for every birthday, valentines day, easter, thanksgiving since we started our relationship and have quite a few different cards over the years which I'm including in my application.

Skype only saves history for 6 months anyway and so I've got nothing past then, although its a shame you never kept MSN logs.

Hopefully you've got plane tickets or some sort of travel documents that show you went places together, or one of you came to see the other as regularly as you could? These are the types of things that you need dig out, even if its just the email confirmation of your flights, or copies of the visas from your passports.

Think you should also get as many people as you can from both his and your side to write letters confirming how you communicate and your relationship developed.

All this helps.

 

[canadianwoman]

Just explain why you don't have proof from a certain period. Then supply as much relationship proof as you can.
I suggest you get some affidavits, letters, and/or emails from relatives and friends supporting your relationship, and have them include details about the early part of your relationshiip. They can say when they first found out about your new partner, what you said about each other, how they knew you were in love, that they saw the two of you together on such-and-such a date, etc. Basically get them to write the normal kind of supporting letter, but to include more about the early part of the relationship. And include more of these types of letters than someone who has a lot of other proof would need.

My husband and I also have almost no proof from the beginning of our relationship, so we got two of his friends who knew us then to write affidavits about when they first met me.

 

[potcakes]

Its hard, you dont start a relationship with the thought of immigration in mind, if I was an IO I would be suspicious of evidence from Day 1! It was hard with my situation, in the we both met while working in the Caribbean, we haven't been apart since the day we met. We didn't have phone logs, or letters!, thankfully on our various nights, days out we had lots of pictures donated through friends. Just gather what you can. Every situation is different, the IO will realise that. Letters of support from family and friends are good, ask friends if they have any pictures, trust me once you sart digging, it will mount up. Good luck.

 

[BostonGirl]

I can get letters from my family and friends as well as his parents to prove our relationship
as of august 09' but we met in mar 09' and there is nothing from that since i'm no longer friends
with the folks who were there to witness that.

We have some pictures from jan through apr of this year when we lived together but we took them ourselves,
so they are mostly of one or the other.

 

[JimM]

I can get letters from my family and friends as well as his parents to prove our relationship
as of august 09' but we met in mar 09' and there is nothing from that since i'm no longer friends
with the folks who were there to witness that.

We have some pictures from jan through apr of this year when we lived together but we took them ourselves,
so they are mostly of one or the other.

I've read that pictures taken seperatly but in the same place count. My fiancée and I have several like that from things like a trip to the Botanical Gardens on her last visit, so hopefully that information is correct.

 

[confusednscared]

Don't worry much hun.

At the time you met in March 09 I am sure CIC will understand that it was never your intention to get married and begin a life. I think when typing up your application you explain in your rship letter how you met, what led up to the meeting, things you have done. I met my partner online too and we never really had any evidence of communication... well, maybe a few emails and some FB logs but it still wasn't enough ... however, we explained in detail how we met, the things that happened when we met in person, how we msged each other online, etc. Just be consistent with the writing up and stick to the truth. Don't try to put in things that never happened unless it's something petty like your partner got a bottle of wine on your first date or something corny like that. One thing too is to remember whatever it is you put in that story as if your life merely depends on it. If you have to memorize line for line, do it if they call for an interview.

In the meantime, work on the evidence you have now. Save any and every piece of detail or paper you feel would prove to CIC that your rship is genuine. I have created a list of things I accumulated throughout our rship after we got married and the application was sent in. I saved every bit of detail, picture and paper to show to CIC. If you would like, I can try to PM that list to you so you can get an idea of some of the things you may want to consider saving or doing to kick ass for your application to Canada.

 

[BostonGirl]

Thank you all, this really helps!

@Confusedandscared That would probably be very useful, thank you

 

[BeShoo]

I am scared seeing how everyone has proof from day one.
It doesn't even seem natural to have that kind of "Proof"

Its hard, you dont start a relationship with the thought of immigration in mind, if I was an IO I would be suspicious of evidence from Day 1!

You guys are making me nervous about having a lot of evidence from day one. The thing is that I'm a saver. I save everything I possibly can. It's very hard to get me to throw anything out. From the first time we were together I have every gas receipt, McDonald's receipt, every grocery store receipt, and anything I could get from when either of us were traveling. I really had no idea I was getting into a relationship, but I still have a lot of "souvenirs" because that's just how I am. I have used bus tickets, many of my boarding passes, even a few luggage claim stickers. I had no idea that I would eventually be sponsoring my now-partner for immigration, and even if I knew that, I didn't know I would need "evidence." My partner is just as much of a "junk keeper" as I am.

We first made contact in June/07, started chatting semi-regularly in Sept/07 and first met in person in Jan/08. I never knew I would need "evidence" until the summer of '09. When I went to visit I helped him clean up his apartment. He had all the envelopes from every bill or invoice he had received for several years. I went through and threw out a lot of those to reduce the clutter a bit, and I made sure that no "evidence" was thrown out then. He had all the boxes from everything he had ever bought in the last few years too. Some people just save stuff to a crazy degree.

I also have a log of how many hours we IM'd and voice chatted every day going back to Feb/08. I didn't keep that for immigration purposes either, but just to make sure I had a handle on how well I was managing my time (not well at all, as it turns out).

I have all this photocopied onto larger pieces of paper and almost ready to send in. I hope they don't look "suspicious".

 

[BostonGirl]

I hope the IOs know there are alot of different kinds of folks!

BeShoo, you are a saver. I am an orphan and have moved around since I was small.
My memories are what I save. All I own would fit in 5 suitcases, lol.

 

[britincanada]

Everyone here seems to have all sorts of proof from the very begining of their relationship.
Photos, emails, phone logs everything!

We do not.

We can not get our phone logs because I have free long distance (We talk constantly)
I deleted old facebook anouncements and we didn't send emails.
I didn't save our MSN.
Neither of us had a camera for a while and we have only had Skype for 4 months.
(and that is spotty because of his internet connection).

I am scared seeing how everyone has proof from day one.
It doesn't even seem natural to have that kind of "Proof"

My question is, should I worry? Are any of you here in this boat?
Has anyone gotten to be with their love with out it?

Thank you

If its any consolation I didnt have any proof of how I met my Husband or when because we met on a dating site 5 years ago via our cell phones..mine was a PAYG so had no phone records and my husband didnt keep his bills! The only proof I had was a flight itinerary and stamp in my passport from my first visit to Canada...I gave CIC tons of proof of our relationship since 2005 though..and I am landing as a Permanent Resident tomorrow morning..So just goes to show you dont need to worry too much about proving how and when you met..more how your relationship evolved and that its continuous..