Processing time changed

[jwnmm]

true, us citizens get through quickly. ottawa also processes applications from other countries, so it is assumed that is what accounts for the substantial difference. also, it doesn't separate the time for those who require interviews and those who dont. those us citizens who are required to interview do take closer to 12-15 months.

Good point. Perhaps it's not an average but the longest possible time

 

[ImABule]

how long it takes to process an application depends on many factors, including the size of the application. some visa officers can handle large applications quicker. if the application is not clear or has a lot of information, it's going to take longer to process.

you have to consider the fact that not all countries have the same relationships. meaning, perhaps part of the issue is that it takes substantially longer for vietnam to respond to security and background checks than singapore. CIC can't force other countries to comply with requests, and they are at the behest of those countries following through. that certainly adds to the reason some countries take longer.

also, the CIC website does not represent an average processing time. the numbers don't suggest that an average of applications took that time. it suggests 80% of applications were processed WITHIN that time, so a majority were actually processed quicker. for a majority of visa offices, the ACTUAL processing time is significantly lower, especially if no interview is needed. so the long wait time for interviews is going to contribute to the higher statistics too, since they don't separate interviews from non-interviews in the numbers. MikeyMike's wife is from vientam I believe and she was approved in LESS than a year with no interview.

so you can see why it's reallynot worth stressing yourself over, because what you are reading isn't telling you the real story. there really is no reason to wait to continuously check if it changes. it's not going to change. it's always going to look horrible. the best way to get through the wait is to keep an eye out on the information on these boards. that is where you're going to find the truth about what happens.

I did not think about the aspect that the relations between Canada and certain countries and their response time to requests by CIC. I suppose that could have some impact on the processing time. But, we still see examples of very fast processing times like Mike (5.5 months, Vietnamese PA) and wonder if that holds any merit when the bulk of Vietnamese applicants wait extended periods of time even without interviews. There would have to be another reasoning behind this as I don't think the Vietnamese Government picks and chooses which files to respond to faster or not. The physical size of a particular application would also, obviously, cause some difference in time, however, it's not rocket science to look at proof of relationship and ascertain that a relationship appears to be genuine. I would imagine that step could realistically be completed within an hour if there is no suspicions of fraudulent documentation etc.

I am aware of the fact that the website posted times represent that 80% are processed within the posted times and that most are in fact done faster than the posted times.

I do appreciate your advise of not constantly checking processing times as I do not like to constantly let myself down by staring at a screen showing 17 months until my wife is approved, I actually only checked because I am actively reading the information on this forum and came across this thread that they changed the format to country specific times and when I read that my heart sank as I knew before they took away VO processing times and introduced an overall processing time SVO was 29 months, and so naturally curiosity got the best of me and I navigated over to CIC website to check the new timeline for Indonesia. Then I compared it to other times for countries processing in the same VO and that is what spawned my original post.

 

[CDNPR2014]

I did not think about the aspect that the relations between Canada and certain countries and their response time to requests by CIC. I suppose that could have some impact on the processing time. But, we still see examples of very fast processing times like Mike (5.5 months, Vietnamese PA) and wonder if that holds any merit when the bulk of Vietnamese applicants wait extended periods of time even without interviews. There would have to be another reasoning behind this as I don't think the Vietnamese Government picks and chooses which files to respond to faster or not. The physical size of a particular application would also, obviously, cause some difference in time, however, it's not rocket science to look at proof of relationship and ascertain that a relationship appears to be genuine. I would imagine that step could realistically be completed within an hour if there is no suspicions of fraudulent documentation etc.

I am aware of the fact that the website posted times represent that 80% are processed within the posted times and that most are in fact done faster than the posted times.

I do appreciate your advise of not constantly checking processing times as I do not like to constantly let myself down by staring at a screen showing 17 months until my wife is approved, I actually only checked because I am actively reading the information on this forum and came across this thread that they changed the format to country specific times and when I read that my heart sank as I knew before they took away VO processing times and introduced an overall processing time SVO was 29 months, and so naturally curiosity got the best of me and I navigated over to CIC website to check the new timeline for Indonesia. Then I compared it to other times for countries processing in the same VO and that is what spawned my original post.

of course it's natural to be curious. that's being human, right? the thing is, trying to understand anything about cic just leads to insanity. the way i see it, unless we actually work in a cic office and process an application, we can't possibly know why it is the way it is. i mean who knows how many layers of internal approvals there are in the process? i would imagine a government agency has multiple layers of approvals to go through and has processes that take more time than necessary. all these little things and everything else unfortunately add up to the perfect storm of inefficiency. that's government for ya unfortunately. how they do things rarely make sense to regular people.

it's sucky so all we can do is accept it and find ways to fight the dark hole the process can lead to. remember, just because there are files that take a long time, doesn't mean yours will.

 

[ImABule]

of course it's natural to be curious. that's being human, right? the thing is, trying to understand anything about cic just leads to insanity. the way i see it, unless we actually work in a cic office and process an application, we can't possibly know why it is the way it is. i mean who knows how many layers of internal approvals there are in the process? i would imagine a government agency has multiple layers of approvals to go through and has processes that take more time than necessary. all these little things and everything else unfortunately add up to the perfect storm of inefficiency. that's government for ya unfortunately.

it's sucky so all we can do is accept it and find ways to fight the dark hole the process can lead to. remember, just because there are files that take a long time, doesn't mean yours will.

Agreed. Nobody really knows what's going on in those visa offices lol.

 

[MilesAway]

What do you mean with straight forward application?

No red flags, a solid relationship profile. It also means that all the documents were sent in ahead of time, rather than sending in an incomplete file and having to wait for the document requests.

If a couple applies after having been married for 6 years, with 2 kids, that's a straightforward application.
Couple B applies after getting married on their second meeting and there's a 20 year age gap, that is not straightforward. Note that getting married on the second meeting might be acceptable in some countries, depending on the cultural norms (arranged marriages).

 

[expectin]

No red flags, a solid relationship profile. It also means that all the documents were sent in ahead of time, rather than sending in an incomplete file and having to wait for the document requests.

If a couple applies after having been married for 6 years, with 2 kids, that's a straightforward application.
Couple B applies after getting married on their second meeting and there's a 20 year age gap, that is not straightforward. Note that getting married on the second meeting might be acceptable in some countries, depending on the cultural norms (arranged marriages).

REPOST FROM Eagle

CIC classify our applications as Routine or Non-routine

What is a non-routine application?

An application is considered non-routine if any one of the following has occurred: takes more time to be processed and issue a visa

Medical, security or criminal issues,
Suspected relationship or dissolution of convenience,
Misrepresentation of marital status at time of marriage,
Previous deportation,
Inability to support self and family members due to legal obligations or other reasons,
Relationship of applicant to sponsor or applicant to other family members in doubt,
Marital status of family member suspect,
Sponsor under investigation for violation of the Act,
Outstanding criminal charge against sponsor outstanding criminal charge against sponsor,
The legal validity of foreign marriage in question,
Custody of children of applicant,
Residence status of sponsor in doubt,
Delays created by applicant not following instructions,
Communications not received by applicant,
Applicant previously removed or excluded from Canada


What is a routine application? takes standard time to be processed

All forms and supporting documents were sent
More proofs of genuine relationship were sent
Sponsor has a very good recommendation from CPC-M to Visa office
CIC believes that the relationship is genuine and continuous
Passport and RPRF were sent with the initial application
Interview is waived and background checks reports return in the standard time

Each officer making a decision reviewing your file has a number of ongoing applications pending review which is why processing times can be so extensive. What many people do not know is that there is priority given to applications that involve children. Applications for permanent residence for spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children have the highest priority, along with children to be adopted. Other members of the family class come subsequently. These are operational, not regulatory priorities. This means that CIC chooses to process such applications with priority as it considers the best interest of the child.

The processing department has a goal to process 80% of sponsorship and permanent residence applications submitted on behalf of the high-priority group of spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children within 12 months.

Please remember that A routine case can also become non-routine during the process if one sentence from non-routine emerge in your file.

Nice week-end

 

[amit_27]

where did you see that?

Here it is :http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp

 

[aliaix]

Here it is :http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/index.asp

Hi. I can't seem to be able to check the new times. I fill everything and when I press check times it just resets. Can anyone check new times for Romania? Thanks! Much appreciated.

 

[expectin]

Hi. I can't seem to be able to check the new times. I fill everything and when I press check times it just resets. Can anyone check new times for Romania? Thanks! Much appreciated.

13 months, Includes assessment of sponsor: 39 days

 

[aliaix]

13 months, Includes assessment of sponsor: 39 days

Thank you. Appreciated.

 

[IMRAN121]

dear friends

can anyone tell me that this processing times which has been updated will be applied for applications in 2016 or 2015??

i mean to say from which year it is being applied???

waiting friends kindly help me

thanks

 

[Deffy2016]

What I don't understand is how different countries processed through Singapore VO have different lengths of time for processing. My wife's country, Indonesia, remains unchanged at 17 months, but Singapore is 13 months, Vietnam 24 months, Thailand 29 months etc. How can one visa office have varying processing times of a year in some cases when they are processing all of these applications together.. Doesn't make sense.

I think it all boils down to security and criminality check for routine cases. The response time varies from country to country. I think the new way of view processing time is the most accurate they have had in a very long time.

Take Ottawa VO for example. Some people get DM in 3 months and some in 5, 6, and even 9 months. The difference between those who get it in 3 months and 4,5, 6 months has to do when how fast they get responses on their background check.

Also it is important to note that the processing time shown on the CIC website is an average of how 80% of the cases from each country has been processed.

 

[Deffy2016]

REPOST FROM Eagle

CIC classify our applications as Routine or Non-routine

What is a non-routine application?

An application is considered non-routine if any one of the following has occurred: takes more time to be processed and issue a visa

Medical, security or criminal issues,
Suspected relationship or dissolution of convenience,
Misrepresentation of marital status at time of marriage,
Previous deportation,
Inability to support self and family members due to legal obligations or other reasons,
Relationship of applicant to sponsor or applicant to other family members in doubt,
Marital status of family member suspect,
Sponsor under investigation for violation of the Act,
Outstanding criminal charge against sponsor outstanding criminal charge against sponsor,
The legal validity of foreign marriage in question,
Custody of children of applicant,
Residence status of sponsor in doubt,
Delays created by applicant not following instructions,
Communications not received by applicant,
Applicant previously removed or excluded from Canada


What is a routine application? takes standard time to be processed

All forms and supporting documents were sent
More proofs of genuine relationship were sent
Sponsor has a very good recommendation from CPC-M to Visa office
CIC believes that the relationship is genuine and continuous
Passport and RPRF were sent with the initial application
Interview is waived and background checks reports return in the standard time

Each officer making a decision reviewing your file has a number of ongoing applications pending review which is why processing times can be so extensive. What many people do not know is that there is priority given to applications that involve children. Applications for permanent residence for spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children have the highest priority, along with children to be adopted. Other members of the family class come subsequently. These are operational, not regulatory priorities. This means that CIC chooses to process such applications with priority as it considers the best interest of the child.

The processing department has a goal to process 80% of sponsorship and permanent residence applications submitted on behalf of the high-priority group of spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children within 12 months.

Please remember that A routine case can also become non-routine during the process if one sentence from non-routine emerge in your file.

Nice week-end

The updated procedure now says 6 months not 12.

"The processing department has a goal to process 80% of sponsorship and permanent residence applications submitted on behalf of the high-priority group of spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and dependent children within 6 months"

 

[buonqua]

Too much red tape to prove genuine relationship.

I had to bring my wife and daughter to the Canadian consulate when I was applying for my daughter's Canadian citizenship and Canadian passport. They had to physically see them and I had to fill out a detailed form with my wife being the applicant and needing couple guarantors on the form including myself her husband. They than did an interview on the spot with my wife and I separately to see if our answers don't conflict and that we were genuinely the mother and father of the baby.

It would speed the process up if they can reference the file on my daughter's application for proof of Canadian citizenship to prove our relationship is genuine and save themselves from interviewing us again.

 

[ImABule]

Too much red tape to prove genuine relationship.

I had to bring my wife and daughter to the Canadian consulate when I was applying for my daughter's Canadian citizenship and Canadian passport. They had to physically see them and I had to fill out a detailed form with my wife being the applicant and needing couple guarantors on the form including myself her husband. They than did an interview on the spot with my wife and I separately to see if our answers don't conflict and that we were genuinely the mother and father of the baby.

It would speed the process up if they can reference the file on my daughter's application for proof of Canadian citizenship to prove our relationship is genuine and save themselves from interviewing us again.

That's absurd.