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procedural fairness letter (anonymous tip claiming your relationship with the sponsor is a marriage of convenience.)

Mar 23, 2022
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Hi. plzzzzzzzz help me :((((((((((( I just received a procedural fairness letter including these concerns:
- Your courtship is vague, considering that you are cousins and known each other since your childhood, it is unclear how your relationship evolved into a marriage, having that you were both married to other people and that these marriages were terminated just prior to marrying each other.- You attempted to travel to Canada on a number of occasions, applying for Temporary Resident Visas in 2019, 2020 and 2021. In your 2019 applications you declared being divorced and travelling to visit your family in Canada, and failed to declare your relationship with the sponsor. As such, these previous applications raise concerns regarding your intention with marrying your cousin. - You provided evidence of correspondence in English. It is unclear why you would communicate using a foreign language while both being native in Farsi. - Your marriage ceremony appears to had been held in a very intimate setting with only immediate family members present. Considering that you are related, the presence of immediate family does not account to a sufficient level of social recognition for your relationship. - We have received an anonymous tip claiming your relationship with the sponsor is a marriage of convenience. This information was received prior to your application.


it seems that the officer has made a mistake as i was divorced 5 years before i got married again and he has all the documents and info. and in my country (Iran) cousins marrying eachother is blessed but i know it's not accepted in western culture and we also tried to explain that in our application. we know that my husband's ex wife has sent an email to immigration saying our relationship is fake and we have her emails to us threatening us as well. and due to corona we were not allowed to throw a big wedding but we had a ceremony with parents and close friends there. we have a lot of documetns showing that our relationship is genuine because we have been in touch on a daily basis and been traveling alot and seeing eachother and those visitor visa refusals were after that we were married and my husband applied for me. but before that in 2019 i applied with my family (father & mother & sister) as a family and it was just the beginning of our relationship and it was not offical and i didn't say anything.
 

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Hi. plzzzzzzzz help me :((((((((((( I just received a procedural fairness letter including these concerns:
- Your courtship is vague, considering that you are cousins and known each other since your childhood, it is unclear how your relationship evolved into a marriage, having that you were both married to other people and that these marriages were terminated just prior to marrying each other.- You attempted to travel to Canada on a number of occasions, applying for Temporary Resident Visas in 2019, 2020 and 2021. In your 2019 applications you declared being divorced and travelling to visit your family in Canada, and failed to declare your relationship with the sponsor. As such, these previous applications raise concerns regarding your intention with marrying your cousin. - You provided evidence of correspondence in English. It is unclear why you would communicate using a foreign language while both being native in Farsi. - Your marriage ceremony appears to had been held in a very intimate setting with only immediate family members present. Considering that you are related, the presence of immediate family does not account to a sufficient level of social recognition for your relationship. - We have received an anonymous tip claiming your relationship with the sponsor is a marriage of convenience. This information was received prior to your application.


it seems that the officer has made a mistake as i was divorced 5 years before i got married again and he has all the documents and info. and in my country (Iran) cousins marrying eachother is blessed but i know it's not accepted in western culture and we also tried to explain that in our application. we know that my husband's ex wife has sent an email to immigration saying our relationship is fake and we have her emails to us threatening us as well. and due to corona we were not allowed to throw a big wedding but we had a ceremony with parents and close friends there. we have a lot of documetns showing that our relationship is genuine because we have been in touch on a daily basis and been traveling alot and seeing eachother and those visitor visa refusals were after that we were married and my husband applied for me. but before that in 2019 i applied with my family (father & mother & sister) as a family and it was just the beginning of our relationship and it was not offical and i didn't say anything.
You should hire a good Canadian immigration lawyer to help you respond to this letter. IRCC is intending to refuse your application and you may also be at risk of a 5 year ban from Canada. Noramally I'm a fan of doing it yourself. But in this case I would strongly recommend working with a lawyer.
 

Pryncess99

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You should hire a good Canadian immigration lawyer to help you respond to this letter. IRCC is intending to refuse your application and you may also be at risk of a 5 year ban from Canada. Noramally I'm a fan of doing it yourself. But in this case I would strongly recommend working with a lawyer.
Exactly. You wont have a second chance to properly explain yourself. Its better to get a good lawyer to help you
 

YVR123

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Jul 27, 2017
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Agree that you should lawyer up. refusal to your applicantion is secondary. Misrepresentation could result in a 5 years ban and that's serious.

Is you husband Canadian citizen? He may need to prepare to move to your home country and live with you.
 
Mar 23, 2022
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You should hire a good Canadian immigration lawyer to help you respond to this letter. IRCC is intending to refuse your application and you may also be at risk of a 5 year ban from Canada. Noramally I'm a fan of doing it yourself. But in this case I would strongly recommend working with a lawyer.
do you know any good lawyers?
 
Mar 23, 2022
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Agree that you should lawyer up. refusal to your applicantion is secondary. Misrepresentation could result in a 5 years ban and that's serious.

Is you husband Canadian citizen? He may need to prepare to move to your home country and live with you.
he has been canadian citizen for more than 30 years. he has already came to my country and lived with me for several months. but as he was losing his job he had to go back. that's why we applied for visitor visa.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Hi. plzzzzzzzz help me :((((((((((( I just received a procedural fairness letter including these concerns:
- Your courtship is vague, considering that you are cousins and known each other since your childhood, it is unclear how your relationship evolved into a marriage, having that you were both married to other people and that these marriages were terminated just prior to marrying each other.- You attempted to travel to Canada on a number of occasions, applying for Temporary Resident Visas in 2019, 2020 and 2021. In your 2019 applications you declared being divorced and travelling to visit your family in Canada, and failed to declare your relationship with the sponsor. As such, these previous applications raise concerns regarding your intention with marrying your cousin. - You provided evidence of correspondence in English. It is unclear why you would communicate using a foreign language while both being native in Farsi. - Your marriage ceremony appears to had been held in a very intimate setting with only immediate family members present. Considering that you are related, the presence of immediate family does not account to a sufficient level of social recognition for your relationship. - We have received an anonymous tip claiming your relationship with the sponsor is a marriage of convenience. This information was received prior to your application.


it seems that the officer has made a mistake as i was divorced 5 years before i got married again and he has all the documents and info. and in my country (Iran) cousins marrying eachother is blessed but i know it's not accepted in western culture and we also tried to explain that in our application. we know that my husband's ex wife has sent an email to immigration saying our relationship is fake and we have her emails to us threatening us as well. and due to corona we were not allowed to throw a big wedding but we had a ceremony with parents and close friends there. we have a lot of documetns showing that our relationship is genuine because we have been in touch on a daily basis and been traveling alot and seeing eachother and those visitor visa refusals were after that we were married and my husband applied for me. but before that in 2019 i applied with my family (father & mother & sister) as a family and it was just the beginning of our relationship and it was not offical and i didn't say anything.
Cousin marriages are common in many cultures and often cousin marriages are the first choice. You may also want to address why you weren’t originally matched to get married and married other people first.
 
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Phalos

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Jun 19, 2020
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Just when think all is lost, Allah is the one who decides-not some lousy visa officer.
If Allah wants my wife to be in Canada, ircc cannot stop it. Alhamdullilah!
 
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BRIL23

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Never appealled All Ukraines ppl got visas to Canada! wife passport already dispatched to embassy for stamping.
Wow that’s best turn out to be good for Phalos. Congrats. I’m here fed up with IRCC 3 months after appeal allowed I still don’t know where is the file
 
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Mar 23, 2022
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Hi. plzzzzzzzz help me :((((((((((( I just received a procedural fairness letter including these concerns:
- Your courtship is vague, considering that you are cousins and known each other since your childhood, it is unclear how your relationship evolved into a marriage, having that you were both married to other people and that these marriages were terminated just prior to marrying each other.- You attempted to travel to Canada on a number of occasions, applying for Temporary Resident Visas in 2019, 2020 and 2021. In your 2019 applications you declared being divorced and travelling to visit your family in Canada, and failed to declare your relationship with the sponsor. As such, these previous applications raise concerns regarding your intention with marrying your cousin. - You provided evidence of correspondence in English. It is unclear why you would communicate using a foreign language while both being native in Farsi. - Your marriage ceremony appears to had been held in a very intimate setting with only immediate family members present. Considering that you are related, the presence of immediate family does not account to a sufficient level of social recognition for your relationship. - We have received an anonymous tip claiming your relationship with the sponsor is a marriage of convenience. This information was received prior to your application.


it seems that the officer has made a mistake as i was divorced 5 years before i got married again and he has all the documents and info. and in my country (Iran) cousins marrying eachother is blessed but i know it's not accepted in western culture and we also tried to explain that in our application. we know that my husband's ex wife has sent an email to immigration saying our relationship is fake and we have her emails to us threatening us as well. and due to corona we were not allowed to throw a big wedding but we had a ceremony with parents and close friends there. we have a lot of documetns showing that our relationship is genuine because we have been in touch on a daily basis and been traveling alot and seeing eachother and those visitor visa refusals were after that we were married and my husband applied for me. but before that in 2019 i applied with my family (father & mother & sister) as a family and it was just the beginning of our relationship and it was not offical and i didn't say anything.






for anyone who is reading this and the replies i just wanted to update and say that everything workedout just fine for us and i just got my visa. we were a member in a facebook group and a lawyer helped us preparing our response but we spend alot of time on it ourselves because no one cares about ur case more than you do. and i just wanted to tell you don't lose hope.
 

carlo88

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Jun 16, 2022
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Hi. plzzzzzzzz help me :((((((((((( I just received a procedural fairness letter including these concerns:
- Your courtship is vague, considering that you are cousins and known each other since your childhood, it is unclear how your relationship evolved into a marriage, having that you were both married to other people and that these marriages were terminated just prior to marrying each other.- You attempted to travel to Canada on a number of occasions, applying for Temporary Resident Visas in 2019, 2020 and 2021. In your 2019 applications you declared being divorced and travelling to visit your family in Canada, and failed to declare your relationship with the sponsor. As such, these previous applications raise concerns regarding your intention with marrying your cousin. - You provided evidence of correspondence in English. It is unclear why you would communicate using a foreign language while both being native in Farsi. - Your marriage ceremony appears to had been held in a very intimate setting with only immediate family members present. Considering that you are related, the presence of immediate family does not account to a sufficient level of social recognition for your relationship. - We have received an anonymous tip claiming your relationship with the sponsor is a marriage of convenience. This information was received prior to your application.
Congratulations Shanemarla2022
I just want to add that
So I see that IRCC DOES keep anonymous tips.
Because there are those who say that IRCC doesnt take anonymous tips seriously. Because IRCC just consider them jelousy.