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I've probably looked at countless topics posted about this particular issue but I thought I'd register and share my own experience and see if anyone can give me some advice.

I am currently an American girl in a relationship with a student in Canada that is working on his PR. I had previously attempted to visit him last April and was denied at the border for reasons that were completely understandable (I was leaving behind an apartment, no money in the bank, had a lot of stuff with me, no return ticket). I basically ticked off all the "don't let this girl in the country" marks. My fault, I take full responsibility. What's worse is that I actually have a previous overstay on my record from when I was 18 years old (I am 26 now) and one refusal at the border when I was 16. I recognize I made a lot of mistakes as a teen in a previous relationship with a Canadian but unfortunately I can't change the past.

Since then, I've settled in the US near my family, got a job and have saved up a reasonable amount of money in the bank. My boyfriend has visited me 4 times in the US since for an amount of time that equals about 2 months. But now he has a full time job and it is hard for him to find a time to visit me. He is also currently working on his PR and once his goes through, we will get married and start working on a spousal application for me.

My question is, is it even worth it to attempt to go there and visit him? I would have no intent of living there with him and just being able to visit for one week between these long months of long distance would be amazing. But, I am very worried about going there and being denied at the border. I considered applying for a visitor's visa but I read that it was pretty useless for an American citizen and I'll go through all the steps anyways and I realize my chances of being pulled into secondary is nearly 100%. Everything I read says I need strong ties, but I do live with my family (ie no lease) and my job is an online one. Of course, I would only be bringing a reasonable amount of clothes and would also have a return ticket, but I feel like these ties aren't strong enough.

Anyways, thanks if you managed to read this to the end. Any advice to settle this in my head either way would be great. Like I said, I don't have problems waiting for the PR that could take well over a year to finish but being able to visit in between these long periods of waiting would be great too.
 
You can certainly try. I would start with a weekend long trip (rather than a week). Make sure you have a return flight and plenty of proof of ties to the US (including apartment rental, utility bills, proof of employment, etc.). Make sure you can demonstrate that you have funds to pay for your stay.

No point applying for a visitor visa. You don't need one and it doesn't change anything about being admitted to Canada. It's really no different than entering on your US passport. You can still be refused entry.

You do have a complicated history - so obviously difficult for any of us to say what will happen.
 
I agree that it is difficult to say what will happen one way or another which is why I'm so apprehensive. (; ^^)

I've actually read that it looks more suspicious to stay for a shorter period of time but really, in the end, it's up to the border patrol officer and how they view the situation. Unfortunately, I don't rent or pay utilities since I live with family so my only ties are my current job.

Good to know 100% about the visitor visa and that it's not worth the time and trouble.
 
That's too bad you don't have your own place. That really lessens your ties and the amount of evidence you can provide.

Anyway - you can always give it a try and see what happens. I'm sure you know that if it looks like you're going to be refused again, just accept the refusal and don't try to argue or debate with the officer.
 
I had such a hard time getting passed the border as well. I am an American citizen and 7 or so months ago I got on a plane to see my now husband. Everything was fine until I entered Canada and was directed to some room where they have the officers and they question you for why you're here. The officer didn't like ANY OF MY ANSWERS. I tried joking around with him which was a huge mistake because it made him more angry. Long story short, he told me it's a federal offense to lie to an officer, and went through my kindle and found out through the pictures that I was coming to Canada to get married. He called my now husband to confirm I knew him and questioned him. He finally okay'd me for the 6 month visit. And just a week ago I was approved for a 1 year extension.

Sorry for the personal story. Anyways, I actually used my husband's income instead of my own for the duration of my stay (because honestly I was basically broke with no job whatsoever) and they accepted that. Have you thought of using your boyfriend's income to show that he will be taking care of you during your stay? I am honestly confused about the ties thing in America. I didn't have to prove that I actually lived at the address I did, and did not need to show I had a job or anything, or paying bills.
 
FairyRaichu said:
I had such a hard time getting passed the border as well. I am an American citizen and 7 or so months ago I got on a plane to see my now husband. Everything was fine until I entered Canada and was directed to some room where they have the officers and they question you for why you're here. The officer didn't like ANY OF MY ANSWERS. I tried joking around with him which was a huge mistake because it made him more angry. Long story short, he told me it's a federal offense to lie to an officer, and went through my kindle and found out through the pictures that I was coming to Canada to get married. He called my now husband to confirm I knew him and questioned him. He finally okay'd me for the 6 month visit. And just a week ago I was approved for a 1 year extension.

Sorry for the personal story. Anyways, I actually used my husband's income instead of my own for the duration of my stay (because honestly I was basically broke with no job whatsoever) and they accepted that. Have you thought of using your boyfriend's income to show that he will be taking care of you during your stay? I am honestly confused about the ties thing in America. I didn't have to prove that I actually lived at the address I did, and did not need to show I had a job or anything, or paying bills.

The personal story is really helpful, thanks!
My experience going through customs sounds very similar to yours right down to joking around with the officer which was a bad move on my part. It was already traumatic enough, I had accepted my refusal and I was just trying to lighten the situation. Big mistake, I guess. I'm glad you were able to go through (^^)

The money part for me isn't a problem as I have a savings to prove I can take care of myself for 1-2 weeks but it's the ties that I worry about. Also, my previous refusals and overstay probably look /really/ bad too.