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solman07

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Hello all, I am the PA and soon to be father. Our file was received at CPC on 23/08/2020 stating that i had no dependents. However, a few days ago i have found out that we will be expecting a child. My wife is a canadian citizen.

Will this affect my application? Looking at the due date for the baby, we would be moving 3-4 months later. Will we be able to get documents for the baby in time? Will i need to withdraw and resubmit my application once the baby is born?

Thanks.
 
Laurahd

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Congratulations. Pregnancy does not affect the application. The usual waiting time was 12 months in average for spousal sponsorship. If your wife is Canadian and the child is born in Canada, they should get the citizenship at birth. If born outside of Canada, it depends if it's the first generation or not. You wouldn't need to include as dependent until the child is born and that would have been for IMM0008. But the only thing you have to do when the child is born, is to provide the documentation proof to the VO by web form. I'm not sure which documents you were referring to and also where you would be moving 3-4 months after the birth. It would help if you were giving more details on your situation if you want to be advised accordingly.
 
solman07

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Thanks Laura, we both currently live in Belgium at the moment and the baby would be born here but would not have access to Belgian citizenship only UK citizenship and Canadian citizenship as my wife is naturalized Canadian citizen with a dual British citizenship.

3-4 months after the birth is our projected and planned move to Alberta assuming we have our COPR by then.

The documents im referring to are a passport for the baby to travel and receive healthcare in Alberta or would the baby be covered by my wifes healthcare?
 
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expatgoingback

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If your wife is a naturalized Canadian citizen your baby will not be eligible to receive Canadian citizenship.
 
solman07

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expatgoingback

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solman07 said:
Where did you get your information from? I found this on canada.ca.

"were born outside Canada and at least 1 of your parents (legal parent at birth [opens in a new tab] or biological parent) either
  • was born in Canada, or
  • became a naturalized citizen before you were born"
Canada.Ca Citizenship
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I'm a Canadian Citizen who was born in the UK to a Canadian born mother and a UK born father. My children, who were not born in Canada do not get citizenship. I found out the hardway when applying for my first child's passport at the embassy. I don't have time to look up the source right now but I know the rules changed in 2009.
 
solman07

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expatgoingback said:
I'm a Canadian Citizen who was born in the UK to a Canadian born mother and a UK born father. My children, who were not born in Canada do not get citizenship. I found out the hardway when applying for my first child's passport at the embassy. I don't have time to look up the source right now but I know the rules changed in 2009.
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Ahhh i see, so the baby is technically a 2nd generation citizen?
 
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solman07 said:
Ahhh i see, so the baby is technically a 2nd generation citizen?
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Yes that's right. So, if the baby is born outside Canada and then moves there with you they'll be able to get residency BUT if they have kids outside of Canada they won't be able to pass on their Canadian citizenship.
 
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solman07 said:
Just did this for the baby and you are right. It's a strange process because i feel its mostly targeted to adults, but we are talking about a 3 month old baby :D

I think we will have to bring forward our move date so my wife can give birth in Canada, hopefully i get my COPR before then so can make the move with her.
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Yes, good for you for finding out before the baby is born! It was a pretty depressing day when I was rejected at the Canadian embassy. Meanwhile, my children were able to get Italian citizenship because their grandmother was born there!
 
YVR123

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So did your wife move to Canada with her parents when she was younger and became a naturalized Canadian citizen? If so, her child is a Canadian citizen.
 
solman07

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YVR123 said:
So did your wife move to Canada with her parents when she was younger and became a naturalized Canadian citizen? If so, her child is a Canadian citizen.
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Hi YVR. My wife is the daughter of a canadian citizen. That makes her a 1st Generation Canadian (Naturalized). Her baby is a second generation if it is born outside of canada and would not be eligible for citizenship. We have amended our plans and she will be giving birth in Canada.

Thanks to @expatgoingback for explaining this. We also did the quiz that was posted and it confirmed what we have been told.
 
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solman07 said:
Hi YVR. My wife is the daughter of a canadian citizen. That makes her a 1st Generation Canadian (Naturalized). Her baby is a second generation if it is born outside of canada and would not be eligible for citizenship. We have amended our plans and she will be giving birth in Canada.

Thanks to @expatgoingback for explaining this. We also did the quiz that was posted and it confirmed what we have been told.
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That's not my understanding of the term "naturalized canadian". My understanding of this term is the person immigrated to Canada as a PR and the lived in Canada for the required number of years and apply for citizenship and became a naturalized Canadian.

If your wife got her citizenship from her parents, then she inherited her citizenship (by descent) from her parents. She did not "naturalized".

Definition of term naturalized/naturalization:
https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship/helpcentre/glossary.html#naturalization

And if she gets her citizenship by descent, then her child born aboard is not Canadian.
 
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How did your wife become Canadian citizen?
Did she come to Canada with her parents as PR and applied for citizenship afterwards?

or was she burned outside of Canada to Canadian parents?
 
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