mech said:So you mean processing taking longer than usual due to verification? Does Caips tell this?
thnaks for ur reply but what can i do in this situation. I can only waithope_life said:as per my understanding, they have put a date on ur app on which they will verify ur details(Telephonic) most prob.
u r gonna get veri sooner or later.
tc
Gillani said:thnaks for ur reply but what can i do in this situation. I can only wait
Thank you hope_life . but this verification stuff scares me though I have everything genuine just that company no more exists.hope_life said:well, ya.
caips suggest that further review needed from VO specifies that
VO has got some issue with the app, n he/she will settle that first before proceeding any further.
mech said:Thank you hope_life . but this verification stuff scares me though I have everything genuine just that company no more exists.
Thank you Imran for your Kind wordsM Imran Kh said:Dear Mech,
VO have other means for the verification of a company that is right now closed. So do not worry and hope for the good. Insha Allah
kkhan870 said:I am reading all the Pakistanis threads very carefully on daily basis for the last 20 days the results I got is: all the rules, manuals,OP's they don't matter anymore there is no court and there is no law for the Canadian immigration any more, they don't care about any law or regulations, some unprofessional people are hired to clear the backlog and the in-process or the 6-12 months letter and the e-case means nothing and the discussions we are doing here means nothing it's just waste of time and making us crazy the gurus like Saki, Qorax means nothing because Saki's case is denied too, I had made mistakes with my initial application and a lot of star members told me that my application will be returned but I went through and their cases were rejected and I don't believe the in-process status on the e-case anymore after looking at Usman799 case, because in real sense he should have passed the PSDEC, and the points before putting him into the In-process status according to their rules, in the old days you get the file no. for Canadian immigration it meant that you have passed the criteria the same thing now that in-process means that you have passed the criteria but now after getting into in-process and getting JD's mismatch I don't believe in this system anymore and I don't believe in these heroes anymore please don't listen to these uncles or star members or heroes, whatever you have filed with full documents just rely on that and you cannot do anything at this stage and keep looking for other options and leave it on Almighty God, whatever happens it happens
kkhan870 said:I am reading all the Pakistanis threads very carefully on daily basis for the last 20 days the results I got is: all the rules, manuals,OP's they don't matter anymore there is no court and there is no law for the Canadian immigration any more, they don't care about any law or regulations, some unprofessional people are hired to clear the backlog and the in-process or the 6-12 months letter and the e-case means nothing and the discussions we are doing here means nothing it's just waste of time and making us crazy the gurus like Saki, Qorax means nothing because Saki's case is denied too, I had made mistakes with my initial application and a lot of star members told me that my application will be returned but I went through and their cases were rejected and I don't believe the in-process status on the e-case anymore after looking at Usman799 case, because in real sense he should have passed the PSDEC, and the points before putting him into the In-process status according to their rules, in the old days you get the file no. for Canadian immigration it meant that you have passed the criteria the same thing now that in-process means that you have passed the criteria but now after getting into in-process and getting JD's mismatch I don't believe in this system anymore and I don't believe in these heroes anymore please don't listen to these uncles or star members or heroes, whatever you have filed with full documents just rely on that and you cannot do anything at this stage and keep looking for other options and leave it on Almighty God, whatever happens it happens
MASunny said:Dear Kkhan870, it looks like that you are unhappy with all; CIC, VO, Forum, & the participants (you called them uncles or ....)
Let me try to answer you questions as:
.....the results I got is: all the rules, manuals,OP's they don't matter anymore there is no court and there is no law for the Canadian immigration any more, they don't care about any law or regulations, some unprofessional people are hired to clear the backlog and the in-process or the 6-12 months letter and the e-case means nothing and the discussions we are doing here means nothing it's just waste of time and making us crazy...
(a) It looks like that you had not read the bits & pieces in detail or you have to digest the details with cool mind. CIC & VOs follow strict guidelines. If you read OP6 manual you will be able to understand that Visa officers are directed to be helping applicants, even in case if the NOC codes are required to be adjusted with minor corrections. I hope this is the big favour from CIC or VOs.
(b) 6-12 months letters are sent to MI3 applicants onward, when they are askinging about updates
(c) If CIC doesnt care about Federal Court then whey pre Feb 2008 applicanst are still being evaluated? This means that CIC's decision is sidelined by court, for instance
(d) e-cas status is always an issue and technology sometimes fails when you have to handle 500k applicants
(e) the staff hired to clear the backlog, only looks at the document checklist and perform PSDEC, means paper selection decision
....the gurus like Saki, Qorax means nothing because Saki's case is denied too....
These guys, in my view, are helping applicants in a very good way guiding them and atleats trying to reduce applicants internal stress. If Saki case is denied, it doesnt mean that he has no knowledge about CIC processes. Every good batsman makes mistakes and that how he goes out of the ground, so its tough luck but its not an example as you cited!
....the discussions we are doing here means nothing it's just waste of time ....
If you feel like that then dont waste your time by reading all these threads! Just stick to your application & wait until your turn will come!
I don't believe the in-process status on the e-case anymore after looking at Usman799 case, because in real sense he should have passed the PSDEC, and the points before putting him into the In-process status according to their rules, in the old days you get the file no. for Canadian immigration it meant that you have passed the criteria the same thing now that in-process means that you have passed the criteria but now after getting into in-process and getting JD's mismatch I don't believe in this system anymore
I think you didnt read the process clearly. Before June 2010 CIC only checks your form, match your duties with the NOC you mentioned and then pass you for VO processing. VO when get your docs performs two functions; PSDEC and SELDEC. Pl note that in
(i) PSDEC only the junior staff at VO verify the required # of docs without their authenticity. If all docs are there they will issue you a new file # (under GCMS)
(ii) SELDEC, initially the visa officer looks at your reference or experience letter & match it with NOC duties. If finds ok then checks your funds and keep your file in IN PROCESS que. There your status changes to in process, means you had passed seldec. After that, visa officer or officers review your file in DETAIL, checks your ref / exp letter & other docs, verfies them etc.
Pl noet that in MI3 this process is shifted to CIC and they allot you your pass marks. VO cant change them or refuse on points basis. They could have other reasons for rejection. Thats how the whole process is made fast!
please don't listen to these uncles or star members or heroes, whatever you have filed with full documents just rely on that and you cannot do anything at this stage and keep looking for other options and leave it on Almighty God, whatever happens it happens
It looks like that you are frustrated. These members had done a good job, no matter they get PR or failed.
Before leaving everything on to Almighty, it is good to review your application carefully, read the experiences of people as why they got rejected, try to improve your docs, due to this backlog each one has a chance to improve his or her docs or application. Visa officer will take few days to complete your application, SELDEC & DOCS REVIEW....but the time you had spend in waiting will be fruitful if you continue to think about the weaknesses of your application and send additional docs to VO. Now a days visa officer will not ask you any doc until SELDEC is passed & where most applicants get rejected.
GOOD one buddy, well said +1 for youMASunny said:Dear Kkhan870, it looks like that you are unhappy with all; CIC, VO, Forum, & the participants (you called them uncles or ....)
Let me try to answer you questions as:
.....the results I got is: all the rules, manuals,OP's they don't matter anymore there is no court and there is no law for the Canadian immigration any more, they don't care about any law or regulations, some unprofessional people are hired to clear the backlog and the in-process or the 6-12 months letter and the e-case means nothing and the discussions we are doing here means nothing it's just waste of time and making us crazy...
(a) It looks like that you had not read the bits & pieces in detail or you have to digest the details with cool mind. CIC & VOs follow strict guidelines. If you read OP6 manual you will be able to understand that Visa officers are directed to be helping applicants, even in case if the NOC codes are required to be adjusted with minor corrections. I hope this is the big favour from CIC or VOs.
(b) 6-12 months letters are sent to MI3 applicants onward, when they are askinging about updates
(c) If CIC doesnt care about Federal Court then whey pre Feb 2008 applicanst are still being evaluated? This means that CIC's decision is sidelined by court, for instance
(d) e-cas status is always an issue and technology sometimes fails when you have to handle 500k applicants
(e) the staff hired to clear the backlog, only looks at the document checklist and perform PSDEC, means paper selection decision
....the gurus like Saki, Qorax means nothing because Saki's case is denied too....
These guys, in my view, are helping applicants in a very good way guiding them and atleast trying to reduce applicants internal stress. If Saki case is denied, it doesnt mean that he has no knowledge about CIC processes. Every good batsman makes mistakes and that how he goes out of the ground, so its tough luck but its not an example as you cited!
....the discussions we are doing here means nothing it's just waste of time ....
If you feel like that then dont waste your time by reading all these threads! Just stick to your application & wait until your turn will come!
I don't believe the in-process status on the e-case anymore after looking at Usman799 case, because in real sense he should have passed the PSDEC, and the points before putting him into the In-process status according to their rules, in the old days you get the file no. for Canadian immigration it meant that you have passed the criteria the same thing now that in-process means that you have passed the criteria but now after getting into in-process and getting JD's mismatch I don't believe in this system anymore
I think you didnt read the process clearly. Before June 2010 CIC only checks your form, match your duties with the NOC you mentioned and then pass you for VO processing. VO when get your docs performs two functions; PSDEC and SELDEC. Pl note that in
(i) PSDEC only the junior staff at VO verify the required # of docs without their authenticity. If all docs are there they will issue you a new file # (under GCMS)
(ii) SELDEC, initially the visa officer looks at your reference or experience letter & match it with NOC duties. If finds ok then checks your funds and keep your file in IN PROCESS que. There your status changes to in process, means you had passed seldec. After that, visa officer or officers review your file in DETAIL, checks your ref / exp letter & other docs, verfies them etc.
Pl noet that in MI3 this process is shifted to CIC and they allot you your pass marks. VO cant change them or refuse on points basis. They could have other reasons for rejection. Thats how the whole process is made fast!
please don't listen to these uncles or star members or heroes, whatever you have filed with full documents just rely on that and you cannot do anything at this stage and keep looking for other options and leave it on Almighty God, whatever happens it happens
It looks like that you are frustrated. These members had done a good job, no matter they get PR or failed.
Before leaving everything on to Almighty, it is good to review your application carefully, read the experiences of people as why they got rejected, try to improve your docs, due to this backlog (blessing in disguise) each one has a chance to improve his or her docs or application. Visa officer will take few days to complete your application, SELDEC & DOCS REVIEW....but the time you had spend in waiting will be fruitful if you continue to think about the ways to improve your application and send additional docs to VO. Now a days visa officer will not ask you any doc until SELDEC is passed & where most applicants get rejected.