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mississaugans

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Well I think that this is it and is very sad news but the agony finally ends...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-09-17.asp?utm_source=media-centre-email&utm_medium=email-eng&utm_campaign=generic

I pray for all those one victims of such misfortune...

God help us all...
 

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mississaugans said:
Well I think that this is it and is very sad news but the agony finally ends...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2012/2012-09-17.asp?utm_source=media-centre-email&utm_medium=email-eng&utm_campaign=generic

I pray for all those one victims of such misfortune...

God help us all...
So, what does it means? We loose the battle right? Im starting to hate canada. They dont know how we went through with this. Such an agony. I gamble my last card for this class action lawsuit, then it ends up to nothing. Such a waste of money.
 

mqirnawi

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2 weeks I have sent an inquiry about my file which last 5 years now and got thise reply
Dear Sir/Madam

This is in response to your inquiry.

The Government of Canada's Economic Action Plan 2012, which became law on June 29, 2012, will impact certain federal skilled worker applications. For additional details on how your application may be affected, please refer to the following website:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/notice-qa.asp

We are currently awaiting instructions as to how applications such as yours are to be concluded. Until we have received these instructions, no action will be taken. Please rest assured that you will be contacted once we are in a position to take further action.


Yours sincerely,

Client Service Unit (VCM)
 

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mqirnawi said:
2 weeks I have sent an inquiry about my file which last 5 years now and got thise reply
Dear Sir/Madam

This is in response to your inquiry.

The Government of Canada's Economic Action Plan 2012, which became law on June 29, 2012, will impact certain federal skilled worker applications. For additional details on how your application may be affected, please refer to the following website:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/notices/notice-qa.asp

We are currently awaiting instructions as to how applications such as yours are to be concluded. Until we have received these instructions, no action will be taken. Please rest assured that you will be contacted once we are in a position to take further action.


Yours sincerely,

Client Service Unit (VCM)
mqirnawi,
Can you please inform if updated documents were asked from you in the year of 2009 or 2010? Did you order CAIPS note - when was your PSDEC made?
Thanks.
 

mississaugans

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It is sad , very very sad... I think this is the response around 280.000 families are going to get from now on... I am very sorry and dissapointed... There is no right to waste such a precious time trusting their promises, even worst the law... Again please God help us all to overcome this fatality and protect those who remain with hope...
 

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mississaugans said:
It is sad , very very sad... I think this is the response around 280.000 families are going to get from now on... I am very sorry and dissapointed... There is no right to waste such a precious time trusting their promises, even worst the law... Again please God help us all to overcome this fatality and protect those who remain with hope...
Dear sir

look to this news
it seems sad


Here's an excerpt from the e-mail received from Tim Leahy:

On Tuesday, September 18th, Justice Barnes refused to enjoin CIC from acting on the provision Jason Kenney tucked into Bill C-38, the budget implementation bill, abolishing the immigrant visa applications of 86,000+ skilled workers, who had been waiting in the immigration queue for four to eight years. Justice Barnes did not, however, rule on the legality of the provision closing the FSW applications. A different judge will make that ruling sometime in mid- to late-2013.



Applicants' counsel were seeking an injunction barring CIC from (a) destroying the FSW files and (b) refunding the processing fee so long as the matter was before the courts. CIC told the Federal Court that it would not destroy the files for two years, obviating any need to enjoin it from doing so; and Justice Barnes dismissed applicants' counsels' concern that, if FSW applicants cashed the refund cheques, they would lose their right to have their files processed if the applicants' litigation prevailed. Justice Barnes stated that, in his view, all they would have to do would be to repay the refund cheque and their file would be reinstated. Justice Barnes appears to fear upsetting Jason Kenney by impeding his effort to abolish as many files as he can in order to have a “just in time” process.



Applicants' counsel themselves were not united on the need for such an injunction, believing, as Justice Barnes ruled, that their litigants interested were protected. The real need for the injunction was for the FSW applicants who have not joined the litigation. If they cash the refund cheque, applicants' counsel fear, the FSW applicants will be signing away their right to have their files processed. Justice Barnes cited no authority at the hearing to support his view that all they would have to so would be to repay the fee. If he truly believes what he said, Justice Barnes will affirm this view in his written reasons for denying the injunction. Justice Barnes did state, however, that applicants' counsel may raise the issue again if CIC reverses its pledge not to destroy the FSW files for two years.



The injunction was needed because the Federal Court has not ruled on whether the litigation should proceed as a true class-action lawsuit or as individual litigants moving forward together. In a class-action, all members of the class will receive the same benefit if the litigation prevails. In managed litigation, the ruling will only govern the fate of those who joined the litigation, leaving those who have not joined out in the cold. The Court set the hearing on class certification for November 16th.



Justice Barnes reiterated his preference for managed litigation over a class-action lawsuit. Justice Barnes had previously stated that, because, if the Court strikes down the provision closing the FSW files, the result would affect all FSW applicants, there is no need to certify a class. That view, however, presumes that those who cash their refund cheques will not, by so doing, have effectively abandoned their immigrant-visa application.


The approach, therefore, Justice Barnes took at the hearing on the injunction is more important than the ruling itself. The more important decisions he will take will be on the motion seeking to enforce the Agreement for the unfairCIC.com group and on the issue of permitting a class-action lawsuit. The former can come any day now; the latter, not until late November at the earliest. Justice Barnes revealed on September 18th that he is not comfortable ruling against Jason Kenney, preferring instead to have counsel for both sides reach their own agreement. The test of this approach, however, will come when he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion. If Justice Barnes refuse to enforce the Agreement, he will make clear that applicants' counsel should never sign an agreement with Immigration Canada because it may break the agreement, and the Federal Court will stand idly by, looking the other way. Likewise, if Justice Barnes refuses to enforce the Agreement and refuses to set the other litigants' cases down for hearings, he will demonstrate that “managed proceedings” area fraud.



Therefore, although Justice Barnes' denying the injunction is meaningless in so far as the actual litigants are concerned because CIC has agreed not to destroy the files – only those who cash a refund cheque may be at risk – how he rules on the unfairCIC.com motion will affect how applicants should proceed in the challenge to the closing of their files, making a true class action as the only credible, viable option. While the optics of the ruling will inflict Angst on those whose files have been closed, it has no bearing on the merits of their cause. And, if CIC keeps its word – and Justice Barnes' puts in his written reasons that cashing a refund cheque will not mean that they have abandoned their FSW applications – the injunction would have been redundant anyway.


Regards,


Tim
 

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What can you expect ? Nothing and just waiting
 

mississaugans

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I think that many people is playing with our hopes... You can see in my previous post that in the CIC website Mr Kenney is writing about successes and the elimination of 280.000 pre feb 2008 is one of them, so ... What else do we have to expect??? To wait for another stay of 90 days more??? Or to accept they will not destroy our files for 2 years??? This is a big joke to get people to give up or to leave them hanging until a new goverment or minister comes up... I don´t want to be negative but I smell bad things and lawyers making money out of it because in many cases they have to refund money also... This now looks to me as a big play and we are the clowns...

I would like to hear others opinions...
 

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My friend who was 2006 applicant paid a lot of money to Canadian immigration lawyer...After the decision of Mr Kenney to removed 280.000 applicants plus their families, his lawyer just ignored his email when he asked when will he know the final decision and when can he get his refund of CIC application fee? :eek:
 

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I havent joined the lawsuit for the same reason i feel its a way too get money from perosns as they are deperate to finalize thier application. But in fact once you are an applicant every ruling/ decision apply to you







sunsun said:
My friend who was 2006 applicant paid a lot of money to Canadian immigration lawyer...After the decision of Mr Kenney to removed 280.000 applicants plus their families, his lawyer just ignored his email when he asked when will he know the final decision and when can he get his refund of CIC application fee? :eek:
 

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isn't the worst immigration system in the world??? we are not talking here about people's money and dreams only,,,but many if not every one had to sacrifice staying in a job just because it matched what there application says ,,and i know some one who lost a great opportunity in another country,,he had to sell his business just to go back to his original country just to get the new documents that canada immigration asked for!!! he thought in two month he will get his landed ,,,,,until now its has been 2 years of waiting,,,,many people are like that
 

mqirnawi

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I have applied in Oct. 2007 and got the file number 3 month after and since that time no news.
i did not order capis also i cannot access to 2 cas to check the status but my loyer in canada told me that still in progress. i have inquired london office and they replied to me yesterday and i post thr replay.

so far no news
also for the lowsuit result i did not understand any thing .
 

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its lots of thing will be happening between now and january 2013,,,many happy people and many sad people,,,,dono where we r going to be,,,but my lawyer said they will be finalizing applications this month,,,he was talking about sep 17th,,,lets hope lots of changes happen after september,,,that is why i keep asking if any one before 2008 got their medical,,but no ANSWER
 

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bilal83 said:
its lots of thing will be happening between now and january 2013,,,many happy people and many sad people,,,,dono where we r going to be,,,but my lawyer said they will be finalizing applications this month,,,he was talking about sep 17th,,,lets hope lots of changes happen after september,,,that is why i keep asking if any one before 2008 got their medical,,but no ANSWER
Dear Bilal

Its almost end of september , noting happend yet
really hope and pray for evry body to get the news
i dont belive a lawyer any more they all all talking bull
i want to apply 2 times in 2010 & 2011 but my lawyer evry time told me dont do that ur MR comming soon dont do parallel application
i didnt apply and now i see evry thing is gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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It is well everybody.

Fingers crossed


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