PR renewal requirement

[andrew999929]

Hi. Hope someone can advise. I stay for 160 days every year in Canada. The rest of the year I’m back in Europe for work. I don’t work in Canada. So after 5 years, I’ll have 800 days in Canada (160*5=800) .
Is that enough for renewal of my PR after 5 years ? Or will I have problems because for example I don’t work or pay taxes in Canada.. ( I don’t pay Canadian taxes because I don’t have any ties in Canada, I stay less than 183 days per year and I don’t work in Canada).

 

[scylla]

Hi. Hope someone can advise. I stay for 160 days every year in Canada. The rest of the year I’m back in Europe for work. I don’t work in Canada. So after 5 years, I’ll have 800 days in Canada (160*5=800) .
Is that enough for renewal of my PR after 5 years ? Or will I have problems because for example I don’t work or pay taxes in Canada.. ( I don’t pay Canadian taxes because I don’t have any ties in Canada, I stay less than 183 days per year and I don’t work in Canada).

Hard to say if you will have problems or not. If questions about whether you meet the residency obligation, it will be up to you to prove that you do. So you'll want to make sure you have sufficient evidence to prove your residency days.

 

[andrew999929]

Why would I have problems if I stayed 800 days per 5 years(more than 730) ?? Wouldnt the entry and exit stamps on my passport be enough evidence?? Not very hard for anyone to figure out how long I stayed in Canada I’m assuming..

 

[scylla]

Why would I have problems if I stayed 800 days per 5 years(more than 730) ?? Wouldnt the entry and exit stamps on my passport be enough evidence?? Not very hard for anyone to figure out how long I stayed in Canada I’m assuming..

Entry and exit records aren't always enough (keep in mind that Canada has no exit controls so your passport won't be stamped by Canada as you're leaving). If IRCC questions the number of days you have spent in Canada, you'll want to have additional evidence to prove the days you have lived here.

 

[Bs65]

As I understand it passports are not routinely stamped any more unless due to the need to indicate a restricted stay such as a visitor record. Given you will be a PR then even less reason to stamp your passport so you would need to request entry records from CBSA and retain any other proof of your coming/going.

As said here the onus will be on you to show that you meet the RO and given the fact that when you apply to renew your PR card it will be obvious that you have not established residence even if you have accumulated enough RO days this fact alone might invite extra scrutiny for the renewal extending maybe the already long 102 days processing time.

In theory your plan should work but always plan as well for the unexpected given a couple of months over the RO in 5 year period is not really a lot and once you get into the rolling 5 years to meet RO at each new entry to the country that adds a new dimension.

 

[foodie69]

Hi. Hope someone can advise. I stay for 160 days every year in Canada. The rest of the year I’m back in Europe for work. I don’t work in Canada. So after 5 years, I’ll have 800 days in Canada (160*5=800) .
Is that enough for renewal of my PR after 5 years ? Or will I have problems because for example I don’t work or pay taxes in Canada.. ( I don’t pay Canadian taxes because I don’t have any ties in Canada, I stay less than 183 days per year and I don’t work in Canada).

Besides the fact it is "doable"..what's the point then being a permanent resident in the first place? You pay no taxes, you have no ties to Canada and you don't work here. Just wondering..

 

[andrew999929]

i have work obligations outside Canada for the time being.. planning to move permanently after 5 or 6 years

 

[YVR123]

i have work obligations outside Canada for the time being.. planning to move permanently after 5 or 6 years

So you will have no family, no bank account, no resident, no healthcare coverage in Canada for that 5 years while you stay almost 160 days per year?
That's over 5 months a year. Or are your family actually here and you are just trying to hide from reporting family income earning from outside of Canada?

 

[andrew999929]

No family,no permenant house and no health coverage. I only have a Canadian bank account and a credit card..

 

[chella99]

I am PR with the card expiring in May 2019. My wife and son are also PRs and staying in Canada but I am not. They will get their cards renewed as they will fulfill residency obligations. I will not fulfill 2 years by May 2019.
We have purchased a property and have taken a mortgage also which we are paying properly.

On the strength of the strong ties thru property ownership, mortgage, family stay and my financial position, can I apply for renewal stating the facts clearly and demonstrating my intention to fulfill the residency obligation in the next cycle if the renewal is granted ??

Would appreciate detailed feedback and also some hints as to how I can succeed in this mission.
Thanks

 

[Bs65]

I am PR with the card expiring in May 2019. My wife and son are also PRs and staying in Canada but I am not. They will get their cards renewed as they will fulfill residency obligations. I will not fulfill 2 years by May 2019.
We have purchased a property and have taken a mortgage also which we are paying properly.

On the strength of the strong ties thru property ownership, mortgage, family stay and my financial position, can I apply for renewal stating the facts clearly and demonstrating my intention to fulfill the residency obligation in the next cycle if the renewal is granted ??

Would appreciate detailed feedback and also some hints as to how I can succeed in this mission.
Thanks

Others can comment as well but the reasons you quote in my view show there is no reason really for you not to be in Canada meeting your residency obligation Given you have everything you need established for a life in the country . So do not see how when you apply to renew that without meeting the RO that it could start the process to revoke your PR status.

For what reason have you not been able to meet the RO ? Work and financial are not generally accepted as valid reasons whereas looking after a seriously ill relative who has no other support might work.

If it were easy just to say someone intends to meet the RO in the future then why have the rule in the first place as everyone would state some future intent but still continue to fail the RO.

Most of this was already explained in your other thread

https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/pr-card-renewal-aspects.570085/#post-7064204

And just minor point is not polite really to hijack someone else’s thread.

 

[Buletruck]

On the strength of the strong ties thru property ownership, mortgage, family stay and my financial position, can I apply for renewal stating the facts clearly and demonstrating my intention to fulfill the residency obligation in the next cycle if the renewal is granted ??

All irrelevant for the PR card renewal. The RO is quite simply 730 day in 5 years. You either comply.....or you don't. There is nothing there that would actually guarantee you would in fact meet the requirement "next time". I would expect they would start a residency review if you were to apply.That isn't to say that those exceptions couldn't be used for an appeal if it did go to a residency review and you did choose to appeal. Whether they would work or not is impossible to say.