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PR App rejected .....Advise on reapply

TRUONGAN

Hero Member
Nov 18, 2010
722
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
CIO Received Oct 9 2012
AOR Received.
Nov 26 2012
Med's Request
Nov 29 2012
Med's Done....
December 8 2012
Interview........
In process Feb 12 2013
Passport Req..
March 27 2013
If you can, try to approach Provincial Nominee route. PNP is way easier, faster, safer than CEC in my view. Rejection for eligibility reason is nearly none in PNP class because PNP certificates do all the eligibility jobs so VO never refuse PNP applicants on eligibility ground.

Recent processing time for PNP is beautiful - 3-4 months after initial submission. PNP in coming years as planned by CIC will be the best way to get into Canada guys!

Forget CEC with all that headache to verify job and the IELTS test. All that are not required for PNP.
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
TRUONGAN,

It is really interesting to know about this program. I will certainly look into this possibility. I am not sure how to get nominated by the province. http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/ is not easily understandable as CIC site. Could you please provide me some direct links to get the information about eligibility and processing details?

Thank you,
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
Without actual data, it's a leap to suggest that PNP is faster vs CEC. You will find that many CEC applicants are able to complete the process in 4 months as well. PNP applicants also have to provide letters of reference from all employers for the past 10 years but CEC applicants only need to provide such letters for the past 3 years.

CEC has a clear cut pass/fail system, hence when someone is rejected, they clearly have failed a requirement. Someone can also argue that if you meet all requirements for CEC you will be accepted.
 

TRUONGAN

Hero Member
Nov 18, 2010
722
9
Category........
Visa Office......
Ottawa
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
CIO Received Oct 9 2012
AOR Received.
Nov 26 2012
Med's Request
Nov 29 2012
Med's Done....
December 8 2012
Interview........
In process Feb 12 2013
Passport Req..
March 27 2013
SenoritaBella said:
Without actual data, it's a leap to suggest that PNP is faster vs CEC. You will find that many CEC applicants are able to complete the process in 4 months as well. PNP applicants also have to provide letters of reference from all employers for the past 10 years but CEC applicants only need to provide such letters for the past 3 years.

CEC has a clear cut pass/fail system, hence when someone is rejected, they clearly have failed a requirement. Someone can also argue that if you meet all requirements for CEC you will be accepted.
most of PNP categories do not require job verification my friend. only if you were sponsored by employers in canada then you may be asked for this. some province even nominate withou job offer or work experience.
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,091
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
Each province's program is different, so it's not really helpful to make generalizations. cecapp369 appears to be in Ontario, and the process with Ontario is not so easy - not to mention expensive. By all means, if you qualify under Ontario's PNP program, it's an "alternative" to (or "in addition to") CEC. But its programs resemble FSW quite a bit (lots of rules to trip over) and cost $1,500 just to apply to Ontario.

http://www.ontarioimmigration.ca/en/pnp/index.htm

Trackitt shows approvals (2011-2012) for Ontario PNP as taking between 238-665 days... not so different from CEC.
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
Hi All,

Planning to send this letter. Because, I have provided all the documents which they are looking for but those were not validated properly. Share your thoughts.

Dear Officer,


In regards to my Permanent Residence Application #XXXXX, I have received your communication dated 17th Jan, 2012 and you have mentioned the reasons of refusal of my application. I would like to bring to your notice few documents and substantiate my claim which otherwise have not satisfied you that I meet the skilled worker experience requirement. Following are the documents I have submitted along with my application, supporting proof of my work, role and pay in Canada.

1. In my previous communication have attached a letter given by my employer addressing Citizenship and Immigration Canada, it explains about my job title, duties, responsibility and salary in Canada(see attached the same document now). (Forum readers.... this is a letter given by my employer for my VISA extension ...not for Immigration purpose... I have submitted as a supporting document)

2. I have been employed in Canada since XXX and I have provided a letter with my Client IT manager, explaining my duties, roles and responsibilities I am executing as part of their team. (A copy of the same has been attached again for your reference)

3. I have been employed in Canada since , XXX and since inception I have been working with XXX and my salary is being credited to my XXX in Canadian Dollars. I have submitted the online bank statement showing all my payroll transactions. (see attached my XXX online statement as of now).

4. I have also attached all my pay stubs from my employer, which indicates my salary. (A copy is provided again for your reference)

These four sets of documents confirm my employment with my employer, my annual Canadian salary, my roles and responsibilities I am handing as their employee.

Although the deputation agreement do mention about the emoluments in rupees, they are however being paid in India if I am working in India. However, when I am onsite, an equal amount of my Indian salary (as per the market exchange rate) will be paid in Canadian dollars along with my Canadian salary. Please review my salary stubs to see these details. The Deputation Agreement also highlights my primary place engagement will be in Canada and I shall working with our client XXX. It also does limit the employer from laying any restriction on the employee from applying for Permanent Residency as there is no provision for legal obligation on either parties in the event if the employee applies for Immigration.

I sincerely request you to kindly consider my plea and review my file again and I hope I am eligible for Immigration.

Yours truly,
 
R

rambo2011

Guest
cecapp369,
i still didnot get any reply from cic, will share once i get any update ?

Iam quite confused with your the below point, were you able to get the requested letter from employer as requested, then in that case why the application was refused ?
. In my previous communication have attached a letter given by my employer addressing Citizenship and Immigration Canada, it explains about my job title, duties, responsibility and salary in Canada(see attached the same document now).
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
See this point also, Rambo ...

(Forum readers.... this is a letter given by my employer for my VISA extension ...not for Immigration purpose... I have submitted as a supporting document)
 

Singh07

Star Member
Jan 5, 2012
137
1
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31 Oct 2011
Nomination.....
23 sept 2011
Med's Done....
7 Dec 2011
Passport Req..
Still waiting, residing in Canada
Hi cecapp369,

Need some advise..Today I checked my e-Cas and I saw this status on my CEC application.

We received your application for permanent residence on October 14, 2011.

We started processing your application on January 13, 2012.

A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision
.

I have not received anything from the buffalo office yet. Also, I have applied under PNP to India office and they have received my medical.

Is my CEC file rejected?? I dont know what happend!!
 

cecapp369

Star Member
Dec 16, 2011
138
8
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-O
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
14-05-2012
Doc's Request.
18-01-2013
AOR Received.
28-08-2012
IELTS Request
sent with app
Med's Request
23-04-2013
Med's Done....
30-04-2013
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-08-2013
VISA ISSUED...
06-09-2013
LANDED..........
22-09-2013
Hi Singh07,

I'm not sure of this case. not very familiar with PNP.

Other seniors can help you.

Thank you
 

junecec

Star Member
Dec 28, 2011
86
1
Singh07 said:
Hi cecapp369,

Need some advise..Today I checked my e-Cas and I saw this status on my CEC application.

We received your application for permanent residence on October 14, 2011.

We started processing your application on January 13, 2012.

A decision has been made on your application. The office will contact you concerning this decision
.

I have not received anything from the buffalo office yet. Also, I have applied under PNP to India office and they have received my medical.

Is my CEC file rejected?? I dont know what happend!!
Have you got medical request before the decision was made? If not you can hope they made a mistake, otherwise it might be a rejection as they haven't even asked your for medical unfortunately. But be positive and wait until you receive a formal letter. I have read on this forum about CIC putting up "decision made" on e-cas and later changed to "in process" as it was just a mistake by the staff.
 

Singh07

Star Member
Jan 5, 2012
137
1
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31 Oct 2011
Nomination.....
23 sept 2011
Med's Done....
7 Dec 2011
Passport Req..
Still waiting, residing in Canada
Thanks for the reply

if I have done medical for pnp category(in December 2011) will it be considered for canadian experience class as well?

Does the immigration offices have shared database for different category, I mean India office, delhi office and how long it will take to receive the decision letter from them?
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
Yes, they are good for CEC as well. It is best to wait for the letter before jumping to conclusions. For all we know, the letter may be about passport request - yes, some people on this forum received theirs by mail. Was your CEC file transferred to CPP-Ottawa? It's appears most CPP-O applicants got their PPR by email.
 

Singh07

Star Member
Jan 5, 2012
137
1
Category........
Visa Office......
New Delhi
NOC Code......
2241
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
31 Oct 2011
Nomination.....
23 sept 2011
Med's Done....
7 Dec 2011
Passport Req..
Still waiting, residing in Canada
SenoritaBella said:
Yes, they are good for CEC as well. It is best to wait for the letter before jumping to conclusions. For all we know, the letter may be about passport request - yes, some people on this forum received theirs by mail. Was your CEC file transferred to CPP-Ottawa? It's appears most CPP-O applicants got their PPR by email.
Yes, it was transferred to CPP-Ottawa. I also received an email from Ottawa office on 16 Jan with the file number. I don't want to jump to conclusions but this whole thing went super fast .....so bit tensed!!
 

SenoritaBella

VIP Member
Jan 2, 2012
3,673
194
Category........
Visa Office......
Dakar
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
08-01-2014
AOR Received.
12-02-2014
File Transfer...
25-02-2014
Med's Request
02-11-2015
Med's Done....
18-09-2013
Passport Req..
02-11-2015
VISA ISSUED...
hopefully soon
LANDED..........
hopefully soon
If it helps, I also had medicals from another application and they took 1 week to make a decision. If your medicals are fine, you should be ok provided security/background checks were fine too.