POST GRADUATION WORK PERMIT (PGWP) RELATED

[belitang]

That's correct, but I contacted in the university's International office and asked them what would be the duration in the graduation certificate, They said it's the duration you study... So if i study for two years, 4 Terms (both summer terms off).. Which means i studied for 16 months... What would be the PGWP duration that i will get.... I have asked them this question, but no reply...

The 16 months is 2 years of study (not 2 years of calendar). Here is the math of study-year:
1 semester study = 4 months calendar
1 year study = 2 semesters study = 8 months calendar
2 years study = 4 semesters study = 16 months calendar

So if you get your study 16 month continuously (without break), it equal to 2 years of study. In other way, if you finish the 4 semesters in 3 years (let say, 1st year you take 2 semester, then for some reasons you off in the 2nd year for 1 full year, then continue your study in 3th year), it is still 2 years study. The study year is not the calendar year.

 

[RonXenner]

Everyone.. JUST RELAXXX.... Seriously.. Dont think so much.. how will i get this how will i get that.. when can i buy a rolls royce.. will i be able hook up with a white girl or how i can bring my family to canada...

Just live for the moment, think about whats in front of you.. not whats going to happen millions of miles away... some of these questions will be automatically answered once you start to look at everything there and living it...

Your PGWP will turn up with what ever duration the CIC Officer sees fit.. if you get less than what you expect... what do you do? Are you going to hit the CIC officer???

Always plan for the worst and expect even less, that way everytime we get something its better than what we expected...

See when it comes to me, i love the idea of going to Canada... but if my visa gets refused i will see why it was refused... and if its something i cant fix.. i will simply try New Zealand.... if that doesnt work.. theres Malaysia or Singapore... Life i never about being certain.. you cant be certain of anything....

All of you are asking for how much PGWP you will get and what not.... but imagine while doing the course CIC decides that they wont give PGWP anymore.?? What are you going to do? Bomb the ministers office?? No right.. you will have to do something else.. pack your bags and come back home even...

So bottom LINE.. Dont worry too much.. what comes will come... all you have to do is put your hard work and take effort in doing whats at hand.... Good luck to everyone...

 

[shebaby]

@Ron.....your advise is the best i have read so far, I read the trend of this forum everyday and i see how people discourage others from getting a 1 yr certificate course because they fel the unn is a safer place when it comes to PGWP.You have really contributed in a very inspiring way and the likes of you are needed more in this forum 8)

 

[ajosephhh]

Everyone.. JUST RELAXXX.... Seriously.. Dont think so much.. how will i get this how will i get that.. when can i buy a rolls royce.. will i be able hook up with a white girl or how i can bring my family to canada...

Just live for the moment, think about whats in front of you.. not whats going to happen millions of miles away... some of these questions will be automatically answered once you start to look at everything there and living it...

Your PGWP will turn up with what ever duration the CIC Officer sees fit.. if you get less than what you expect... what do you do? Are you going to hit the CIC officer???

Always plan for the worst and expect even less, that way everytime we get something its better than what we expected...

See when it comes to me, i love the idea of going to Canada... but if my visa gets refused i will see why it was refused... and if its something i cant fix.. i will simply try New Zealand.... if that doesnt work.. theres Malaysia or Singapore... Life i never about being certain.. you cant be certain of anything....

All of you are asking for how much PGWP you will get and what not.... but imagine while doing the course CIC decides that they wont give PGWP anymore.?? What are you going to do? Bomb the ministers office?? No right.. you will have to do something else.. pack your bags and come back home even...

So bottom LINE.. Dont worry too much.. what comes will come... all you have to do is put your hard work and take effort in doing whats at hand.... Good luck to everyone...

Hmmm. makes sense, but I have to choose my university based on this, That's why i asked....otherwise my philosophy is same as yours... No Tension, No worry...

 

[ajosephhh]

If you study in 2 years (minimum) program, you will get 3 years PGWP. If you accumulate your study from difference program then you must prove it. So the result will be uncertainty, depend on how you satisfy the CIC officer.

I show on the forum that a lot of people try gambling plan to take one year study then extend to other 1 year program with hope to get the 3 years PGWP. It will not as easy as they think. First when you extend your study you must submit extended study permit (you must satisfy the CIC officer that it relevance). Then, second, they must convince the officer that the total those 2 years are comply with the 2 years required to get 3 years PGWP.

Regarding your question how many semester for 1 year, the answer is 2 semester. So, if you attend 6 semesters in 2 years (you attend the summer semester each year). It can be calculate as 3 years of study. In US you can call it as sort semester.

Good explanation, Thank you...

 

[ajosephhh]

If you study in 2 years (minimum) program, you will get 3 years PGWP. If you accumulate your study from difference program then you must prove it. So the result will be uncertainty, depend on how you satisfy the CIC officer.

I show on the forum that a lot of people try gambling plan to take one year study then extend to other 1 year program with hope to get the 3 years PGWP. It will not as easy as they think. First when you extend your study you must submit extended study permit (you must satisfy the CIC officer that it relevance). Then, second, they must convince the officer that the total those 2 years are comply with the 2 years required to get 3 years PGWP.

Regarding your question how many semester for 1 year, the answer is 2 semester. So, if you attend 6 semesters in 2 years (you attend the summer semester each year). It can be calculate as 3 years of study. In US you can call it as sort semester.

"First when you extend your study you must submit extended study permit (you must satisfy the CIC officer that it relevance)."
For this, We do not need to extend as they recommend to put the max duration for getting visa...

Is it possible for a full-time student to finish the program in one year?

Yes. It is possible to complete the program in one year. An example would be, two courses in your first term, and three courses in each of your second and third terms. However, most students complete their full-time studies in four terms.

I am an international student applying for a study permit. What will be the duration of my studies to indicate on my visa application?

First of all, Study Permits are only issued to full-time students. The maximum duration of full-time studies would be six terms, two years. It is our recommendation that you apply for your permit for a two year period.
Example:
Student begins studies in Winter 2011 and would complete his/her studies in December 2012.

 

[belitang]

"First when you extend your study you must submit extended study permit (you must satisfy the CIC officer that it relevance)."
For this, We do not need to extend as they recommend to put the max duration for getting visa...

Is it possible for a full-time student to finish the program in one year?

Yes. It is possible to complete the program in one year. An example would be, two courses in your first term, and three courses in each of your second and third terms. However, most students complete their full-time studies in four terms.

Yes, you are right, 4 years for the bachelor and there is 1 year certificate programs (mostly college, but it is common in Canada that you get certificate for every year of study). In case you rolling into 1 year certificate programs then you will only get 1 year study permit. Here, many try to put their game. Take 1 year certificate program which is cheaper then rolling into other 1 year certificate program.

I am an international student applying for a study permit. What will be the duration of my studies to indicate on my visa application?

First of all, Study Permits are only issued to full-time students. The maximum duration of full-time studies would be six terms, two years. It is our recommendation that you apply for your permit for a two year period.
Example:
Student begins studies in Winter 2011 and would complete his/her studies in December 2012.

The study permit last based on your study program. If you take 1 year program then you get only 1 year study permit. If you take bachelor degree, then most likely you will get 4 years study permit (some subjects can be 3.5 years, while others can be 4.5 years). The total years of the study is stated on the acceptance letter issued by the university/college where you accepted. Based on this the CIC will calculate how long the study permit would be.

Yes, to be eligible for study permit you must enroll into full time study. Here, full time does not always mean 6 terms. General speaking, full time is depend on how you pay the tuition. If you pay only the course you taken then you take part time study (even though your pay is the same as who take full time). But, if you pay based on full term regardless the actual total hours you study, you take full time study. From administration point of view, university normally differentiate who enroll into full time study and who part time. Some universities/colleges do not provide part time study for certain subjects (mostly in engineering and science). The full time or part time study is also stated in your acceptance letter.

 

[New_Aspirant]

If you study in 2 years (minimum) program, you will get 3 years PGWP. If you accumulate your study from difference program then you must prove it. So the result will be uncertainty, depend on how you satisfy the CIC officer.

I show on the forum that a lot of people try gambling plan to take one year study then extend to other 1 year program with hope to get the 3 years PGWP. It will not as easy as they think. First when you extend your study you must submit extended study permit (you must satisfy the CIC officer that it relevance). Then, second, they must convince the officer that the total those 2 years are comply with the 2 years required to get 3 years PGWP.

Regarding your question how many semester for 1 year, the answer is 2 semester. So, if you attend 6 semesters in 2 years (you attend the summer semester each year). It can be calculate as 3 years of study. In US you can call it as sort semester.

Hi,

I find lot of students opting for two 1-year programs not only to get 3-year PGWP but also to pursue a relevant program that would strengthen their chances of getting a job. Even I'm one among them.

Two 1-year programs that i have in mind are the follows:

-Information Systems Business Analyst - GBC
-IT Project Management - Seneca College
Both the programs listed here are relevant tp my previous studies and experience. How well can i convince the CIC officer on the same and what are my chances of this getting approved along with 3-year PGWP.

Till date i was on the impression that study permit can be extended easily as no one is going to restrict us from studying.

 

[belitang]

Hi,

I find lot of students opting for two 1-year programs not only to get 3-year PGWP but also to pursue a relevant program that would strengthen their chances of getting a job. Even I'm one among them.

Two 1-year programs that i have in mind are the follows:

-Information Systems Business Analyst - GBC
-IT Project Management - Seneca College
Both the programs listed here are relevant tp my previous studies and experience. How well can i convince the CIC officer on the same and what are my chances of this getting approved along with 3-year PGWP.

Till date i was on the impression that study permit can be extended easily as no one is going to restrict us from studying.

I cannot advise how the CIC officer think about your case. In general, they are mostly not an IT guys, so I think it will not so easy. IS and PM are difference subjects. If the officer follow the book then your request for extending the study could be rejected.

Regarding, your experience in PM. In common business, it is not used to people who have PM background become an IS. Since PM get better pay, it will be questioning how came the PM do the job that would get less pay. But, I know (as an IT guys) there are companies that put PM based on assignment. So today you be assigned as IS then other day you be assign as PM. Unfortunately, I am not an CIC officers, who most likely do not have IT background. So, you should not expect they can understand your position.

If you want secure, take 2 years study. There are some university offer 2 years program for system/business analyst. I found a university/college in Calgary that offer IS and PM in parallel. So, if you like PM, you can switch in the second year. You would not need to deal with the study permit since you already have 2 years permit from beginning of your study. In this case your switch not impact your study permit.

But, you can try find who have the same experience that have 1 year study permit then extend other 1 year in difference field. If they have been success, you could probably be success as well.

UPDATE:
In following link http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/study-permit-extension-about-my-future-please-help-t133546.0.html you can find enfield have experience extending his study. I think you can consult your case with him.

 

[New_Aspirant]

I cannot advise how the CIC officer think about your case. In general, they are mostly not an IT guys, so I think it will not so easy. IS and PM are difference subjects. If the officer follow the book then your request for extending the study could be rejected.

Regarding, your experience in PM. In common business, it is not used to people who have PM background become an IS. Since PM get better pay, it will be questioning how came the PM do the job that would get less pay. But, I know (as an IT guys) there are companies that put PM based on assignment. So today you be assigned as IS then other day you be assign as PM. Unfortunately, I am not an CIC officers, who most likely do not have IT background. So, you should not expect they can understand your position.

If you want secure, take 2 years study. There are some university offer 2 years program for system/business analyst. I found a university/college in Calgary that offer IS and PM in parallel. So, if you like PM, you can switch in the second year. You would not need to deal with the study permit since you already have 2 years permit from beginning of your study. In this case your switch not impact your study permit.

But, you can try find who have the same experience that have 1 year study permit then extend other 1 year in difference field. If they have been success, you could probably be success as well.

UPDATE:
In following link http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/study-permit-extension-about-my-future-please-help-t133546.0.html you can find enfield have experience extending his study. I think you can consult your case with him.

Hi,

Thanks for giving a clear idea on the current scenario.

Obviously it is going to be difficult to grab a PM job directly after the program. But there are roles aligned to our experience and talent after Project Management. The program that i quoted about project managemet is specific to IT, the program itself says IT project management and not just project management that is offered in most of the colleges. So i guess a CIC officer might be able to guess that atleast.

The program which you have suggested in calgary is a bachelor program from Univ of Calgary. I might have seen the wrong program also. Can you please provide the link for the program that has IS and PM together? It would be of great help to me.

Im in search of candidates who are with similar plans.

Thanks.

 

[belitang]

The program which you have suggested in calgary is a bachelor program from Univ of Calgary. I might have seen the wrong program also. Can you please provide the link for the program that has IS and PM together? It would be of great help to me.

I am not too remember exactly, either U.Calgary or Mount Royal. It was 2 or 3 years ago when I read about the programs. The IS and PM were not in one program, but they were in same faculty so normally you can take some course from other program to fulfilled the free selection courses.

 

[New_Aspirant]

I am not too remember exactly, either U.Calgary or Mount Royal. It was 2 or 3 years ago when I read about the programs. The IS and PM were not in one program, but they were in same faculty so normally you can take some course from other program to fulfilled the free selection courses.

Yes i cheked both the sites. This is a bachelors degree.

 

[gaur9786]

Hi Everyone,

Even if you do two one year diplomas, u won't be able to get three yr work permit....you will only get one yr of work permit...so don't do 2 diplomas just for the sake of 3 yrs of work permit.

 

[ajosephhh]

Hi Everyone,

Even if you do two one year diplomas, u won't be able to get three yr work permit....you will only get one yr of work permit...so don't do 2 diplomas just for the sake of 3 yrs of work permit.

Oh... Thanks for that information...

 

[New_Aspirant]

Hi Everyone,

Even if you do two one year diplomas, u won't be able to get three yr work permit....you will only get one yr of work permit...so don't do 2 diplomas just for the sake of 3 yrs of work permit.

Hi,

How are you so sure about this?

I have seen a lot of students getting 3 years PGWP with two 1-year programs. You can find the same in this forum as well.