Post e-APR Process and Common Reasons for Rejection

[BillHyatt]

Hi Bill, i tried to use this link with UCI number by the way but it can't find my application there

It work for some with RPRF receipt number. Check if it works with that but in any case you will receive your PPR soon.

 

[Mrnassaro]

Hello All,

Quick Question:

I started to make profiles in 2015. I had 3 profiles that are expired and one is withdrawn (I withdrew the same to make new one for OINP nomination. Now, Since I got nomination I have the below question:

when they ask for Previous express entry profiles - should we answer yes and include the last file number ? - I don't remember my UCI

 

[steff_dem]

Hi bill i had taken a pcc in march 2017 but since i just recieved my ita my pcc would be expiring in on 2nd of September 2017. Hence i have got a new pcc just a few days back. But the problem is that when i got d previous pcc they endorsed it on my passport with the country i need it for and the file number. However this time the same lady officer has not endorsed it on the passport as the previous so would this be a problem.officer signing it is the same.

 

[BillHyatt]

Hi bill i had taken a pcc in march 2017 but since i just recieved my ita my pcc would be expiring in on 2nd of September 2017. Hence i have got a new pcc just a few days back. But the problem is that when i got d previous pcc they endorsed it on my passport with the country i need it for and the file number. However this time the same lady officer has not endorsed it on the passport and the new pcc has the same file number as the previous so would this be a problem. File number n officer signing it is the same.

You only need to submit one PCC that should include your details and complete period of stay. I don't have an idea about what does it mean by file number in your case.

 

[steff_dem]

You only need to submit one PCC that should include your details and complete period of stay. I don't have an idea about what does it mean by file number in your case.

On the pcc that is given in India thy mention a file number. The last time they endorsed on passport. This time however they haven't endorsed it in the passport

 

[spike2]

hello plz advice
I have worked in Qatar for two years & got PCC from them. I have started job on 08th May, 2011 ( on business visa ) & finished on 18th June, 2013. My residence visa got stamped on 21st June, 2011. They have mentioned dates from stamping of residence visa 21st June, 2011 till 18th June,2013. Mentioned dates ( start date ) are not matching with actual work history the last date is same and its matching. is it ok??
They have not mentioned any date on my wife's PCC.

thanks....

 

[BillHyatt]

On the pcc that is given in India thy mention a file number. The last time they endorsed on passport. This time however they haven't endorsed it in the passport

Sorry I don't have much idea about this issue. I hope someone from INDIA might be able to help you.

 

[spike2]

1. hello plz advice@BillHyatt
   I have worked in Qatar for two years & got PCC from them. I have started job on 08th May, 2011 ( on business visa ) & finished on 18th June, 2013. My residence visa got stamped on 21st June, 2011. They have mentioned dates from stamping of residence visa 21st June, 2011 till 18th June,2013. Mentioned dates on d PCC ( start date ) is not matching with actual work history but the last date (exit) is same and its matching. is it ok??
   They have not mentioned any date on my wife's PCC.
   
   thanks....
   

 

[BillHyatt]

1. hello plz advice@BillHyatt
   I have worked in Qatar for two years & got PCC from them. I have started job on 08th May, 2011 ( on business visa ) & finished on 18th June, 2013. My residence visa got stamped on 21st June, 2011. They have mentioned dates from stamping of residence visa 21st June, 2011 till 18th June,2013. Mentioned dates on d PCC ( start date ) is not matching with actual work history but the last date (exit) is same and its matching. is it ok??
   They have not mentioned any date on my wife's PCC.
   
   thanks....

Your PCC should cover all dates you remained in Qatar if it is using dates. Otherwise the rule is getting PCC after you left country.

I would suggest to get correction of dates (or get PCC without dates but issued after you left Qatar) as I have seen rejections on not covering complete period of stay in PCC.

I hope this will help.

 

[spike2]

Your PCC should cover all dates you remained in Qatar if it is using dates. Otherwise the rule is getting PCC after you left country.

I would suggest to get correction of dates (or get PCC without dates but issued after you left Qatar) as I have seen rejections on not covering complete period of stay in PCC.

I hope this will help.

Your PCC should cover all dates you remained in Qatar if it is using dates. Otherwise the rule is getting PCC after you left country.

I would suggest to get correction of dates (or get PCC without dates but issued after you left Qatar) as I have seen rejections on not covering complete period of stay in PCC.

I hope this will help.

thanks bill
both the PCC are issue after last exit...

 

[ciscawy]

Part 1 of 2: Post e-APR Process

Step 1: Completeness Test as per Regulation 10

Immigration Officer will assure that your file is complete as defined under the Regulation 10 of IRCC Act. If your file includes all details and documents required then it will be sent for Assessment.


Step 2: Assessment for Eligibility and Admissibility

This process sometimes called as A11 (For Eligibility) and A16 (For Admissibility on Medical Ground).

A11 will take some time, however; A16 will be completed within 2-3 days after your file is in Assessment Stage.

A11 (Eligibility Test)

Minimum Entry Requirement (R75)

Verification will be conducted on each of the Six Eligibility Factors (R78-83). This will only focus on assuring that the candidate attained at least 67 out of 100 points and Minimum Score needed at the time ITA was issued. Misrepresentation or Fraud check is carried later on during A40.

Education (R78)

ECA Report and Educational Documents are verified until the officer is satisfied to pass R78.

Language (R79)

Language Score is recalculated using IELTS Scores and Verification is done online using your Test Report Form Number. Once verified R79 is passed.

Work Experience (R80)

Verify Scores calculated and Work Experience Letters. Calculate Similarity of NOC Scores and verify documents. Officer will usually check email, fax, contact, website (if any), and address is written on Letterheads to verify if company physically exists and registered at the address provided. If Satisfied will pass R80.

Age (R81)

Verify the age against the official Personal Documents. Will pass R81 once satisfied.

Arranged Employment – if applicable (R82)

If applicable, will verify any job offers or call employer in Canada. Will Pass R82 after verifying offer from Employer.

Adaptability – if applicable (R83)

Verify each of the adaptability Factor and Points Claimed. Will Pass R83 after every factor is verified.

In addition, Officer will verify the Settlement Funds (R76) to ensure sufficient Funds are available. Once Satisfied will pass R76.

Although, at this stage, eligibility Test is completed your account may not be updated at this stage. Immigration Officer will approve your file and send it for A40 Test and if passed will approve your file as eligible.


A16 (Admissibility on Medical Ground)

At this stage, you will be requested for Medical Certificate or else your Upfront Medical Report will be obtained from your Panel and conclusion will be made on Health concerns.

Applications may be rejected if Health of a Person can impose a threat to Canadians health or will be expensive to treat under Public Health. This includes any health concerns with Children or anyone accompanying with the principal applicant. Good Panelist will inform you the same day regarding your X-Ray and other tests results except for Blood Test, which they usually inform within 2-3 working days if you have any health problem. Therefore, it is better to wait 2-3 working days after Upfront Medical before you apply with IRCC.

Once verified officer will pass and update your file. A11 and A16 Test are started together, however, A11 will take much more time to verify documents.

Criminal Record Verification

After A16 is passed, your first Background Check will be performed and your file will be updated. The status will change from Not Applicable to either In Progress (also referred as IP1) or Next step is to conduct Background Check (also referred as NBGC or IP1).

In this Stage, your Police certificates will be verified and assured that they meet the criteria’s of IRCC as well. In addition, they will send requests to all countries you have visited and obtain clearance from them. If these countries are quick to respond, then your file will move to Not Applicable again in few weeks’ time.


Step 3: Assessment for Misrepresentation and Fraud (A40)

This stage will start once both the A11 and A16 including Criminal Verification is completed. In this stage, your file status will change from Not Applicable to In Progress (also referred as IP2) and will be the final stage before PPR. At this stage, you may be required to take Interview or other checks may be performed. Once A40 is passed, you will receive PPR and you will be required to send Passport to your Visa Office for Stamping and receiving CoPR.


This is the general guide for understanding process only however in reality each candidate and stream may see a different kind of trends.

@BillHayat, Currently i am preparing all the documents for the Post ITA , I am Egyptian and i work & live in Saudi Arabia , i got my PCC while i was in my annual vacation in Egypt , exactly on 20th of July , then i traveled back to Saudi Arabia on the 29th of July. will they consider my Egyptian PCC invalid because i traveled 9 days after issuance.
And what if i traveled now for a quick trip to Egypt ( 3 days ) and returned back , will this affect the PCC in any way.
The Egyptian PCC is valid for 3 months from 20th of July till 20th of October .

 

[moonarch]

Part 2 of 2: Most Common Reasons for Rejection

Most common is PCC:

a. Not included

b. No Coloured Scan attached

c. Dates don't cover complete period of stay (for e.g. you stayed in one address until 13th August but PCC cover dates till 31st July – don’t miss even one day)

d. The wrong PCC attached (includes not attaching PCC where you have lived more than 6 months – calculate your stay duration by adding all stays and include PCC if combine stay is 180 days or more)

e. LOE: Not writing explanation of why you weren’t able to attach PCC required and what you have done so far – attach evidence such as PCC Application submitted

f. Incomplete Documents – Some countries require additional documents such as consent forms for IRCC to directly get info therefore, it is important to read carefully CIC Guidance for each specific country before applying.

g. States PCC – Some countries do not have Central/Federal PCC System and therefore, you are advised to get PCC from all states you have lived (For work, study, and residential purpose excluding short stays). In addition, read CIC guidance, as they sometimes require Federal PCC as well instead of just State PCC.

h. Change in Circumstance such as visiting country after having PCC will not remain valid so you need to be careful and may need to apply for PCC again.


Medical Reports:

a. This includes failure to get Upfront Medical or After Letter from IRCC for any reason.

b. In addition, if you have any physical or mental issues the IRCC will reject your application and will advise you to set a meeting with your panellist for further advice or treatment plans – I know some people who recovered after some medication or physiatrist help and got PR later on.

c. Very rare but most significant error I saw was when one person submitted a report from a doctor who was not registered as approved panellist – see from CIC website before booking appointment.

d. Ensure you know what tests are required. Although, it is very rare on one occasion candidate only told panellist that she needs a test for Canada not indicating PR (nowadays for EE) and result was that Full Examination was not done resulting in rejection. {However, that panellist was dropped from approved list after short time but you must be careful if you are not booking appointment from well-reputed institute or Doctor.}


Conversion of Files:

a. Only convert files in the approved format and not just what suits best to you

b. If you are using software’s or online tools for PDF conversion then it is recommended to test it on different readers (such as Foxit or Adobe) before submitting. IRCC will be using Adobe Acrobat so make sure your files (all pages) will open in it. There is a case where IRCC rejected the incomplete application due to files not opening in Adobe (file was converted using Foxit).

c. Your documents must be clear and readable after reducing its size (it is recommended to not have a file below 150)

d. Always convert or scan your file in Color version unless where states by the IRCC to have a grayscale or black and white.


Passport and Visa Status:

a. It is important to attach your Passports and Residential Cards (if applicable) along with your file.

b. Make sure all pages with stamps are also included as IRCC rejected the application in past for not having a stamp for existing of one of the countries.


Education:

a. Not including ECA report or only including ECA number

b. Not including Degrees and Transcripts – please note that IRCC will reject incomplete files unlike OINP, which asks for additional information.

c. If you have distant learning course or studied in a different country than where the Institute is located then include this in Letter of Explanation and clearly mention your status.


Experience:

a. Not including Job responsibility letters or not matching with NOC.

b. Documents submitted cannot be verified the due lack of information of company available online.

c. Company registered in the house or residential area that may raise the question on quality of work performed.

d. Could not answer questions or satisfy officer during a formal interview.


These are the most common Reasons identified from the sample of more than 1,000 applicants in 2016/17.

Dear Bill
as you had mentioned that DPI should not be less then 150 per docs in my case my wife (principle applicant) has got lot of education documents which comprise almost 8 mb file using 200DPI but if i decrerss dpi over to 100 then file size becomes 2.4 mb plz tell me what m suppose to do though i ve also used pdf file compression onlins tool...my scanner doesnt have 150 dpi option

 

[BillHyatt]

Dear Bill
as you had mentioned that DPI should not be less then 150 per docs in my case my wife (principle applicant) has got lot of education documents which comprise almost 8 mb file using 200DPI but if i decrerss dpi over to 100 then file size becomes 2.4 mb plz tell me what m suppose to do though i ve also used pdf file compression onlins tool...my scanner doesnt have 150 dpi option

Usually PDF softwares have an option to save file with minimal size and in that case the dpi used is 150. However, if you need 100dpi because you have no other option then it is fine. You still need to ensure that all documents are still clearly readable.

I hope this will help.

 

[BillHyatt]

@BillHayat, Currently i am preparing all the documents for the Post ITA , I am Egyptian and i work & live in Saudi Arabia , i got my PCC while i was in my annual vacation in Egypt , exactly on 20th of July , then i traveled back to Saudi Arabia on the 29th of July. will they consider my Egyptian PCC invalid because i traveled 9 days after issuance.
And what if i traveled now for a quick trip to Egypt ( 3 days ) and returned back , will this affect the PCC in any way.
The Egyptian PCC is valid for 3 months from 20th of July till 20th of October .

Your issue is complex. The first part may not create problem but if you go back then you will have to inform CIC about that and in that case they may ask for the new PCC.

Dates issue is raised when it doesn't cover dates before PCC was issued.

For e.g you stayed in home country from 1st Jan 2010 to 12th June 2014 and then left the country. Then you came now to your home country and asked for PCC.

Your PCC was issued on 9th August 2017 and you left on 15th August. Now your PCC should cover all dates till 9th August 2017.

The PCC issue is raised if your PCC covers dates from 1/01/2010 till 30/5/2014 missing 12 days of June in 2014.

Secondly, rule of PCC issued after leaving country doesn't apply to Home Country.

I hope this will clear your doubts.

 

[ciscawy]

Your issue is complex. The first part may not create problem but if you go back then you will have to inform CIC about that and in that case they may ask for the new PCC.

Dates issue is raised when it doesn't cover dates before PCC was issued.

For e.g you stayed in home country from 1st Jan 2010 to 12th June 2014 and then left the country. Then you came now to your home country and asked for PCC.

Your PCC was issued on 9th August 2017 and you left on 15th August. Now your PCC should cover all dates till 9th August 2017.

The PCC issue is raised if your PCC covers dates from 1/01/2010 till 30/5/2014 missing 12 days of June in 2014.

Secondly, rule of PCC issued after leaving country doesn't apply to Home Country.

I hope this will clear your doubts.

The Egyptian PCC doesn't mention any Period , it just mention the issuance date and valid for 3 months from issuance.
do you think they will go back to the passport stamps to check if i have traveled to my home country and return back to saudi ?
The question here , In the travel history , do i mention my Trips to my home country ? if yes then your theory is right.. if no then as long as the PCC is valid , i think i shouldn't worry about my short trip to my home country.