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NOC change should not impact your application if you still meet all eligibility criteria. In case, you file is rejected then you will have to make a new profile to enter a pool and you will be able to apply for FSW Stream with a stream.

In case of Nomination, you will have to contact NS to transfer Nomination to the new Account if it has expired or extend and transfer Nomination in case it has expired.

I hope this will help.
Bill,

Thanks for the positive response. It gives me a lot of relief as i had a nightmare worrying about the rejection of my PR application previous night.

Mine is a NS provincial nomination and i had applied under NOC 2232. While applying for PR i had given a Letter of Explanation to consider the NOC code as 2142. Sure that it wont lead to rejection of the PR application?

Any idea how long it may take to get a PPR from here. Its been 6 months and a week since i had applied for the PR.

TIA,

Guru
 

000111222

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Hi Bill,

If a PCC does not mention an expiry date but has been issued after the last visit to that country, what is the expiry date of such a PCC? Does IRCC prefer PCCs to have been issued within a certain period of time (say 3m or 6m or 1y from the application)? I understand the rule says 6m for country of residence, but what about other countries?

Thanks
 

BillHyatt

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@BillHyatt

Hi Bill,

If a PCC does not mention an expiry date but has been issued after the last visit to that country, what is the expiry date of such a PCC? Does IRCC prefer PCCs to have been issued within a certain period of time (say 3m or 6m or 1y from the application)? I understand the rule says 6m for country of residence, but what about other countries?

Thanks
For countries of non-residence (also not your country of citizenship), the PCC will not expire unless you re-visited it.
 
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BillHyatt

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Bill,

Thanks for the positive response. It gives me a lot of relief as i had a nightmare worrying about the rejection of my PR application previous night.

Mine is a NS provincial nomination and i had applied under NOC 2232. While applying for PR i had given a Letter of Explanation to consider the NOC code as 2142. Sure that it wont lead to rejection of the PR application?

Any idea how long it may take to get a PPR from here. Its been 6 months and a week since i had applied for the PR.

TIA,

Guru
You should have received PPR by now, however, it is better to order GCMS notes that shall include notes on NOC Code and the results for this.
 

000111222

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Hi Bill

All set to submit my application in the next day or two. Final pre-AOR question - to make it easier for the agent, I have decided to put LOE pages in a couple of specific sections (e.g. in POF, PCCs). I still have a general LOE for the remaining stuff (Travel history, Education history etc). Hope this approach is fine. Have tried to be succinct and not overcomplicate matters, while making sure any issues that require clarification are adequately clarified with evidence.

Thanks for all the help during the entire process.

Best,
 

BillHyatt

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@BillHyatt

Hi Bill

All set to submit my application in the next day or two. Final pre-AOR question - to make it easier for the agent, I have decided to put LOE pages in a couple of specific sections (e.g. in POF, PCCs). I still have a general LOE for the remaining stuff (Travel history, Education history etc). Hope this approach is fine. Have tried to be succinct and not overcomplicate matters, while making sure any issues that require clarification are adequately clarified with evidence.

Thanks for all the help during the entire process.

Best,
That's fine.
 

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Part 2 of 2: Most Common Reasons for Rejection

Most common is PCC:

a. Not included

b. No Coloured Scan attached

c. Dates don't cover complete period of stay (for e.g. you stayed in one address until 13th August but PCC cover dates till 31st July – don’t miss even one day)

d. The wrong PCC attached (includes not attaching PCC where you have lived more than 6 months – calculate your stay duration by adding all stays and include PCC if combine stay is 180 days or more)

e. LOE: Not writing explanation of why you weren’t able to attach PCC required and what you have done so far – attach evidence such as PCC Application submitted

f. Incomplete Documents – Some countries require additional documents such as consent forms for IRCC to directly get info therefore, it is important to read carefully CIC Guidance for each specific country before applying.

g. States PCC – Some countries do not have Central/Federal PCC System and therefore, you are advised to get PCC from all states you have lived (For work, study, and residential purpose excluding short stays). In addition, read CIC guidance, as they sometimes require Federal PCC as well instead of just State PCC.

h. Change in Circumstance such as visiting country after having PCC will not remain valid so you need to be careful and may need to apply for PCC again.


Medical Reports:

a. This includes failure to get Upfront Medical or After Letter from IRCC for any reason.

b. In addition, if you have any physical or mental issues the IRCC will reject your application and will advise you to set a meeting with your panellist for further advice or treatment plans – I know some people who recovered after some medication or physiatrist help and got PR later on.

c. Very rare but most significant error I saw was when one person submitted a report from a doctor who was not registered as approved panellist – see from CIC website before booking appointment.

d. Ensure you know what tests are required. Although, it is very rare on one occasion candidate only told panellist that she needs a test for Canada not indicating PR (nowadays for EE) and result was that Full Examination was not done resulting in rejection. {However, that panellist was dropped from approved list after short time but you must be careful if you are not booking appointment from well-reputed institute or Doctor.}


Conversion of Files:

a. Only convert files in the approved format and not just what suits best to you

b. If you are using software’s or online tools for PDF conversion then it is recommended to test it on different readers (such as Foxit or Adobe) before submitting. IRCC will be using Adobe Acrobat so make sure your files (all pages) will open in it. There is a case where IRCC rejected the incomplete application due to files not opening in Adobe (file was converted using Foxit).

c. Your documents must be clear and readable after reducing its size (it is recommended to not have a file below 150)

d. Always convert or scan your file in Color version unless where states by the IRCC to have a grayscale or black and white.


Passport and Visa Status:

a. It is important to attach your Passports and Residential Cards (if applicable) along with your file.

b. Make sure all pages with stamps are also included as IRCC rejected the application in past for not having a stamp for existing of one of the countries.


Education:

a. Not including ECA report or only including ECA number

b. Not including Degrees and Transcripts – please note that IRCC will reject incomplete files unlike OINP, which asks for additional information.

c. If you have distant learning course or studied in a different country than where the Institute is located then include this in Letter of Explanation and clearly mention your status.


Experience:

a. Not including Job responsibility letters or not matching with NOC.

b. Documents submitted cannot be verified the due lack of information of company available online.

c. Company registered in the house or residential area that may raise the question on quality of work performed.

d. Could not answer questions or satisfy officer during a formal interview.


These are the most common Reasons identified from the sample of more than 1,000 applicants in 2016/17.
So My previous one year job that’s making me eligible for FSW had its office in a residential area. It’s a startup company and a small office was setup in one of the extended rooms of the house.
My work experience and company - everything is legitimate, the company’s got a website as well since last 4 years.

So, office location in a residential area, would that really raise a suspect even if I submit proper documents? Has anyone got the same situation with them ? Would very much appreciate your thoughts on this.
 
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So My previous one year job that’s making me eligible for FSW had its office in a residential area. It’s a startup company and a small office was setup in one of the extended rooms of the house.
My work experience and company - everything is legitimate, the company’s got a website as well since last 4 years.

So, office location in a residential area, would that really raise a suspect even if I submit proper documents? Has anyone got the same situation with them ? Would very much appreciate your thoughts on this.
Yes, if they found out the location of the business is a residential house then it will raise Red Flag. Officer will then have to assure that work performed for that company can be comparable to average work needed within the Industry you work in.

I have seen a couple of rejections due to this in the past and all of them were from India and verification did by NDVO.

So, having an office in Residential House will not automatically result in rejection but instead, your Local Visa Office will do further verifications to assure that company is considered fit for such work experience.

The only good point for you is that your company has a website and in most cases, agents don't do extra checks if they found enough information on their website.

I hope this will help.
 

richacanadapr17

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Hello Everyone,

If anyone has AOR in December please PM me I will add you guys in a group and we can track our application.
 

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On my friend's ICES eca report they mentioned only his first and last name. No mention of middle name (which is there in the passport).. will that be an issue for cic?
 

Rocky83

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Hi Bill,

My spouse has received a PPR request with a deadline of 24th Dec 2017. However we have raised a CSE mentioning about early indications of pregnancy with necessary supporting document. And we also sent a separate e-mail to CPC Ottawa. However we got a notification that we can expect a reply in 10 working days and 20 working days respectively.

Given the deadline for submitting the passports is approaching, should we go ahead and send our passports and photos to NDVO and request an extension in our landing date. Expected due date is 22 July 2018. Our medicals expire in Sep 2018.

Also, will they cancel her work permit visa and stamp immigrant visa after we send our passports ? If we request a re-issuance of COPR after birth of our child, will it impact our application in any way ?
 

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Hi Bill,

My spouse has received a PPR request with a deadline of 24th Dec 2017. However we have raised a CSE mentioning about early indications of pregnancy with necessary supporting document. And we also sent a separate e-mail to CPC Ottawa. However we got a notification that we can expect a reply in 10 working days and 20 working days respectively.

Given the deadline for submitting the passports is approaching, should we go ahead and send our passports and photos to NDVO and request an extension in our landing date. Expected due date is 22 July 2018. Our medicals expire in Sep 2018.

Also, will they cancel her work permit visa and stamp immigrant visa after we send our passports ? If we request a re-issuance of COPR after birth of our child, will it impact our application in any way ?
You need to follow IRCC instructions which differ in each case. I thought your matter was solved as they gave you instructions in PPR Letter including after birth procedure.
 

BillHyatt

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On my friend's ICES eca report they mentioned only his first and last name. No mention of middle name (which is there in the passport).. will that be an issue for cic?
This shall not create an issue with IRCC as it contains your DOB and Personal Reference number for ECA.

However, the overall experience of applicants of ICES is not so good and they are well-known for making such mistakes especially applicants from professional background should avoid using ICES.

I hope this will help.
 
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Rocky83

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You need to follow IRCC instructions which differ in each case. I thought your matter was solved as they gave you instructions in PPR Letter including after birth procedure.
Thanks Bill,
PPR letter only lists out the procedure for submitting passports and photos.
The supporting document for pregnancy has been submitted to CPC but no reply received from them as yet.
Should we wait till mid Dec and then send our passports ? Any contact no. which we can use and call ?
 

BillHyatt

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Thanks Bill,
PPR letter only lists out the procedure for submitting passports and photos.
The supporting document for pregnancy has been submitted to CPC but no reply received from them as yet.
Should we wait till mid Dec and then send our passports ? Any contact no. which we can use and call ?
Yes, you can call at IRCC number and tell them your situation. They will not be able to do anything on their own, however, they can guide you.

You can wait for a couple of more days for LVO reply and then do whatever they tell you to do.