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Portal 2 to eCopr timeline 2024

Ilocanoak

Newbie
Dec 13, 2024
3
0
Portal 1 - Dec 10 (replied same day)
Portal 2 - Dec 11 (replied same day)
Waiting for EcoPR

I don't know our visa office (huhu), it says Landings only in both portal 1 and 2.
I hope everyone of us shall receive the golden email very soon!
I received the same
Landing only but i guess our VO is Etobicoke based on the email address.
Good Luck to us
 

BCPNPdude

Full Member
Dec 2, 2024
25
30
all of us should join IRCC after becoming PR / citizen and change this b.s. system
its ridiculously unfair and cruel for all people who have done the right thing and are waiting in line since months even after technically being confirmed!
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Feb 3, 2023
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all of us should join IRCC after becoming PR / citizen and change this b.s. system
its ridiculously unfair and cruel for all people who have done the right thing and are waiting in line since months even after technically being confirmed!
>its ridiculously unfair and cruel for all people who have done the right thing and are waiting in line since months even after technically being confirmed!

It isn't. It is just about waiting. Realistically, for anyone waiting for a portal, there's nothing that's significantly holding your life behind. It is just a status change that'll happen eventually. Enjoy it with the patience, that's the most Canadian thing we can do when hit with bureaucracy. Also, IRCC is doing not-so-bad with the shabby IT systems that they've got. The process of holding is good as they have liquidity to meet next year's levels plans. It would be cruel if the lack of status was doing something to you, but if it isn't, it is just one of those first world problems.

Not worth getting into these nuances, but if you read the room, we are the bs in the system. There's barely any labor shortage in metro cities, yet we are issued PRs, visas, etc. A lot of us shouldn't even be here. If it weren't for broken politics and exceptional lobbying by businesses, we wouldn't even be here.
 

nagheaded

Member
Nov 12, 2024
13
4
The immigration system is in place because the population is ageing and there's not enough people paying taxes. Much of the growth statistics reported by the country is due to immigration. Neither expensive business lobbying (which is specifically for temporary workers) nor broken politics (which is frankly just theatrics at this point) have anything to do with it.

The waiting bit I'm in agreement with though.
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Feb 3, 2023
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The immigration system is in place because the population is ageing and there's not enough people paying taxes. Much of the growth statistics reported by the country is due to immigration. Neither expensive business lobbying (which is specifically for temporary workers) nor broken politics (which is frankly just theatrics at this point) have anything to do with it.

The waiting bit I'm in agreement with though.
My argument is that, a skilled immigrant could easily replace 3-4 current EE intakes as they would without causing any unnecessary pressure on housing/taxpayers/etc generating the same taxes to replace the ageing population.

But, importing highly unskilled worker labelled as skilled workers is a bad trap for Canada. Most people end up working for circular economic activities (contracting, services, etc) that's only killing the economy as there's nothing to fuel the real economy. Increased COL directly prevents non-circular work as it is about taking a lot of risks. All of that happened because of broken politics and lobbying.

The core issue that more food supervisors will get ITAs compared to software architects. Most of these low-skilled immigrants will eventually make less than equitable contributions to make things complicated. We skewed our entire immigration to favor those over the years as well. Something forced us to increase our intake for unskilled professionals. I don't think that will help Canada in the long run.

Hence, my original take.

I do agree that there would be some other form of truth out there too. Hard to conceptualize it though.
 
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justaguy12

Full Member
Jul 8, 2023
47
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>its ridiculously unfair and cruel for all people who have done the right thing and are waiting in line since months even after technically being confirmed!

It isn't. It is just about waiting. Realistically, for anyone waiting for a portal, there's nothing that's significantly holding your life behind. It is just a status change that'll happen eventually. Enjoy it with the patience, that's the most Canadian thing we can do when hit with bureaucracy. Also, IRCC is doing not-so-bad with the shabby IT systems that they've got. The process of holding is good as they have liquidity to meet next year's levels plans. It would be cruel if the lack of status was doing something to you, but if it isn't, it is just one of those first world problems.

Not worth getting into these nuances, but if you read the room, we are the bs in the system. There's barely any labor shortage in metro cities, yet we are issued PRs, visas, etc. A lot of us shouldn't even be here. If it weren't for broken politics and exceptional lobbying by businesses, we wouldn't even be here.
you're always so rude in all of your replies. Get a hold of yourself...
 

BCPNPdude

Full Member
Dec 2, 2024
25
30
>its ridiculously unfair and cruel for all people who have done the right thing and are waiting in line since months even after technically being confirmed!

It isn't. It is just about waiting. Realistically, for anyone waiting for a portal, there's nothing that's significantly holding your life behind. It is just a status change that'll happen eventually. Enjoy it with the patience, that's the most Canadian thing we can do when hit with bureaucracy. Also, IRCC is doing not-so-bad with the shabby IT systems that they've got. The process of holding is good as they have liquidity to meet next year's levels plans. It would be cruel if the lack of status was doing something to you, but if it isn't, it is just one of those first world problems.

Not worth getting into these nuances, but if you read the room, we are the bs in the system. There's barely any labor shortage in metro cities, yet we are issued PRs, visas, etc. A lot of us shouldn't even be here. If it weren't for broken politics and exceptional lobbying by businesses, we wouldn't even be here.

> It isn't. It is just about waiting. Realistically, for anyone waiting for a portal, there's nothing that's significantly holding your life behind.

It actually does hold life back. You can just read through many threads on this forum and see how people are scared as there is no clear guidance on how to travel in and out of country during this time.
Family emergencies, job travel requirements, medical circumstances - there are many reasons why people are complaining.
If they didn't have these circumstances, of course they would wait patiently.
Life doesn't wait for bureaucracy, it just happens.

> Also, IRCC is doing not-so-bad with the shabby IT systems that they've got. The process of holding is good as they have liquidity to meet next year's levels plans.

If you've sent people confirmation emails already, then its no longer about any verification of eligibility or "due diligence" part.
Its rote paperwork that in today's age should never take this long.
What's wrong in wanting better systems and more efficiency from government that you pay taxes to?

> Not worth getting into these nuances, but if you read the room, we are the bs in the system. There's barely any labor shortage in metro cities, yet we are issued PRs, visas, etc. A lot of us shouldn't even be here. If it weren't for broken politics and exceptional lobbying by businesses, we wouldn't even be here.

I refuse to subscribe to this mentality.
Its a two way street, I benefit from the country (if country lives up to its promises) and country benefits from me (if I live up to my responsibilities).
"Oh you're lucky they're letting you in this country, just bend over and take it" - I dont like that.
We are choosing to immigrate to this country and country is choosing to grant us the privilege. I proved my worth via a point based system that this country set up.
Just because some people are gaming the system gives you no right to judge all hopeful immigrants that want to make a good life for themselves in this country.


Just sharing my opinion. You may disagree and that's ok :D
 

iSaidGoodDay

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Feb 3, 2023
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> It isn't. It is just about waiting. Realistically, for anyone waiting for a portal, there's nothing that's significantly holding your life behind.

It actually does hold life back. You can just read through many threads on this forum and see how people are scared as there is no clear guidance on how to travel in and out of country during this time.
Family emergencies, job travel requirements, medical circumstances - there are many reasons why people are complaining.
If they didn't have these circumstances, of course they would wait patiently.
Life doesn't wait for bureaucracy, it just happens.

> Also, IRCC is doing not-so-bad with the shabby IT systems that they've got. The process of holding is good as they have liquidity to meet next year's levels plans.

If you've sent people confirmation emails already, then its no longer about any verification of eligibility or "due diligence" part.
Its rote paperwork that in today's age should never take this long.
What's wrong in wanting better systems and more efficiency from government that you pay taxes to?

> Not worth getting into these nuances, but if you read the room, we are the bs in the system. There's barely any labor shortage in metro cities, yet we are issued PRs, visas, etc. A lot of us shouldn't even be here. If it weren't for broken politics and exceptional lobbying by businesses, we wouldn't even be here.

I refuse to subscribe to this mentality.
Its a two way street, I benefit from the country (if country lives up to its promises) and country benefits from me (if I live up to my responsibilities).
"Oh you're lucky they're letting you in this country, just bend over and take it" - I dont like that.
We are choosing to immigrate to this country and country is choosing to grant us the privilege. I proved my worth via a point based system that this country set up.
Just because some people are gaming the system gives you no right to judge all hopeful immigrants that want to make a good life for themselves in this country.


Just sharing my opinion. You may disagree and that's ok :D
>Family emergencies, job travel requirements, medical circumstances - there are many reasons why people are complaining.

I have seen comments from so many folks here. My observation was that maybe 10% of them had an actual issue. For example, I had this user who complained about their CoPR for months and claimed that IRCC is stopping him from starting his life. When he got his CoPR, did his soft landing and isn't back in Canada yet - but imagine the constant complaints and nagging that turned the entire forum negative. So, my vantagepoint is a little different on this issue and could appear rude to some. But, I started the way most of you did and then learned as time and data on the forum taught me. People can actually travel while waiting for eCoPR. As long as you are not virtually landed, your visas are valid. So, most emergencies are covered. I do agree that there are some edge cases that are slipping through, but largely, not a lot of issue in travelling. For CECs, your life is already here and you are living it.

>Just because some people are gaming the system gives you no right to judge all hopeful immigrants that want to make a good life for themselves in this country.
This is another interesting thing to know. The number of people who have faked something aren't few. There are a lot of people gaming the system, the good ones are few.

>What's wrong in wanting better systems and more efficiency from government that you pay taxes to?
Nothing wrong. But, it was about the levels plan. If that's being met, they can't really do much to move your application. At the end, they also have to present the data of levels plan vs number of PRs landed. I think you would agree to it. It could be your bad luck that you are not going to land this year, but that's not a matter of efficiency, it is a funnel that is designed to not overflow.

>"Oh you're lucky they're letting you in this country, just bend over and take it" - I dont like that.
Whether you agree with this or not, it is a matter of luck for a lot of us. A Tier 1 country's PR costs ~$500k. We got a steal tbh.