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pritesh patel

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Hi to all,
Today i got my letter of refusal said that, i award only 20 points for B.COM only,
But the question is that i have completed diploma in electrical (3 yrs) as well,so i thought 22 points for diploma with 16 yrs of my total study period.

they do not consider two different field of study it is fine.

But my question is that where is it mention? we are not a lawyer ,so we know every thing.
on government website mention only statement below.

You have a three-year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship and at least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study. 22 points

so as per website i claim 22 points my self.

So,can i go for appeal or not?

Please hepl me out on this
 

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pritesh patel said:
Hi to all,
Today i got my letter of refusal said that, i award only 20 points for B.COM only,
But the question is that i have completed diploma in electrical (3 yrs) as well,so i thought 22 points for diploma with 16 yrs of my total study period.

they do not consider two different field of study it is fine.

But my question is that where is it mention? we are not a lawyer ,so we know every thing.
on government website mention only statement below.

You have a three-year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship and at least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study. 22 points

so as per website i claim 22 points my self.

So,can i go for appeal or not?

Please hepl me out on this
B COM you have done as regular student or private ?
 

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pritesh patel said:
Hi to all,
Today i got my letter of refusal said that, i award only 20 points for B.COM only,
But the question is that i have completed diploma in electrical (3 yrs) as well,so i thought 22 points for diploma with 16 yrs of my total study period.

they do not consider two different field of study it is fine.

But my question is that where is it mention? we are not a lawyer ,so we know every thing.
on government website mention only statement below.

You have a three-year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship and at least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study. 22 points

so as per website i claim 22 points my self.

So,can i go for appeal or not?

Please hepl me out on this
Who told you that they do not consider two different field of study???????

you can go for appeal.
 

pritesh patel

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khalid h said:
B COM you have done as regular student or private ?
I HAVE DONE B.COM REGUALR 3 YRS
 

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pritesh patel said:
Hi to all,
Today i got my letter of refusal said that, i award only 20 points for B.COM only,
But the question is that i have completed diploma in electrical (3 yrs) as well,so i thought 22 points for diploma with 16 yrs of my total study period.

they do not consider two different field of study it is fine.

But my question is that where is it mention? we are not a lawyer ,so we know every thing.
on government website mention only statement below.

You have a three-year diploma, trade certificate or apprenticeship and at least 15 years of full-time or full-time equivalent study. 22 points

so as per website i claim 22 points my self.

So,can i go for appeal or not?

Please hepl me out on this
Your diploma is after matric or FA ?
 

pritesh patel

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rawaljignesh82 said:
Who told you that they do not consider two different field of study???????

you can go for appeal.

THANKS BUT IT IS TRUE IT IS MENTION IN MY REFUSAL LETTER
 

pritesh patel

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Mr.Engineer said:
Your diploma is after matric or FA ?
MY DIPLOMA IS AFTER 10TH AND IT IS 3YRS REGULAR
 

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pritesh patel said:
I HAVE DONE B.COM REGUALR 3 YRS
BA or BCOM or BSc + 14........... infinite years of education = 20 points
 

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pritesh patel said:
MY DIPLOMA IS AFTER 10TH AND IT IS 3YRS REGULAR
Go for an appeal, they must award you 22 points
 

khalid h

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Mr.Engineer said:
BA or BCOM or BSc + 14........... infinite years of education = 20 points
NO...... with a trade diploma 3 yrs with 15 yrs education is 22 points
 

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pritesh patel said:
MY DIPLOMA IS AFTER 10TH AND IT IS 3YRS REGULAR
you will gain only 20 points , this refusal is due to unawareness of rules by applicants , all instructions are present in guide on cic website , appeal will be wastage of time.
 

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khalid h said:
NO...... with a trade diploma 3 yrs with 15 yrs education is 22 points
he is only 13 years of education with diploma
BCOM is after that and different field.
 

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khalid h said:
NO...... with a trade diploma 3 yrs with 15 yrs education is 22 points
his highest degree is B.COm + 16 years of education = 20 points
 

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Your diploma is after 10 and that could be the reason for refusal , could you share from which institute you did ur diploma .

OP6 manual can clear your doubts about the diploma.

Extract from the manual

12.2. Education
For definition of terms, see Section 6.3.
Officers should assess programs of study and award points based on the standards that exist in the country of study. The Regulations do not provide for comparisons to Canadian educational standards.
If the applicant has an educational credential referred to in a particular paragraph in R78(2) but not the total number of years of study required by that paragraph, officers should award the number of points set out in the paragraph that refers to the number of years of study completed by the applicant [R78(4)].
Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional” degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor’s credential is a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then 22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher university credential.
Note: R 78(1) defines “full-time equivalent” in respect of part-time or accelerated studies, the period that would have been required to complete those studies on a full-time basis. In these cases, officers should award points for the credential and years of study that would have been required to complete the studies at the time the application is made.
Pursuant to R77, officers should award points for the credential and years of study that the applicant has completed at the time the application is made. If further study is completed and documentation submitted between application and assessment, officers must award the points for the highest educational credential obtained at the time of assessment.

Example: 1. If an applicant has a master’s degree, but only 16 years of education, the officer would compare the credential and years of study to the education points chart below and, in this case, award 22 points;
Example: 2. If an applicant has a four-year bachelor’s degree and 16 years of education, an officer would award 20 points, as a single two, three, or four-year university credential at the bachelor’s level, combined with at least 14 years of full-time study, is worth 20 points.
Note: Medical doctor degrees are generally first-level university credentials, in the same way that a Bachelor of Law or a Bachelor of Science in Pharmacology is a first level, albeit “professional” degree and should be awarded 20 points. If it is a second-level degree and if, for example, it belongs to a Faculty of Graduate Studies, 25 points may be awarded. If a bachelor’s credential is a prerequisite to the credential, but the credential itself is still considered a first-level degree, then 22 points would be appropriate. It is important to refer to how the local authority responsible for educational institutions recognizes the credential: i.e., as a first-level or second-level or higher university credential.
Note: R 78(1) defines “full-time equivalent” in respect of part-time or accelerated studies, the period that would have been required to complete those studies on a full-time basis. In these cases, officers should award points for the credential and years of study that would have been required to complete the studies at the time the application is made.
Pursuant to R77, officers should award points for the credential and years of study that the applicant has completed at the time the application is made. If further study is completed and documentation submitted between application and assessment, officers must award the points for the highest ed
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pritesh patel said:
MY DIPLOMA IS AFTER 10TH AND IT IS 3YRS REGULAR
 

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Here is the link

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op06-eng.pdf