PMM or any knowledgable friends, your help needed urgently.

[olusolalekan]

Smokey,

37.5 hours per week may qualify as full-time. I believe this relates to your Summer position where you were working in school. I believe that will count as full-time. You will have to agree that with the person writing the ref letter and put that in the employer reference letter.

 

[smokey]

Hi PMM
Thanks a lot for your prompt response.However, here is my calculation details using the exact dates of employment. Per the exact dates of my part time work; lets take my part time experience with Employer B,in which i have been working since January 09 2006 to June 31 2008 (Even though, i am still working on this part time job, lets do the math until the end of last month only, just to keep it simple). In this case, total number of hours i have (from Employer B only) will be = 20 hours/week* 119 weeks = 2380 hours.
Is my math right, PMM? I'm sure you have done some specific calculation to come up with those 1300 hours.But, i wanted to get a clear picture of this,because the potential of my application approval depends on how much i get from my part-time experience.

thanks
Roger

 

[smokey]

Smokey,

37.5 hours per week may qualify as full-time. I believe this relates to your Summer position where you were working in school. I believe that will count as full-time. You will have to agree that with the person writing the ref letter and put that in the employer reference letter.

Hi olusolalekan,
Thanks. what about the other part-time jobs (15 hours/week). Did you find anything from your research?
Please post here for me.

Roger

 

[PMM]

Hi

PMM,

where did you get the specific 1950 from? I haven't seen anything specific like that on CIC website. Please direct us to specific rules/guidance to that effect. I read item #7 of the schedule you posted but it doesn't clearly say anything about part-time jobs. I am not saying you are wrong, i just want to know the backup evidence to that interpretation.

CIC works on the basis of 37.5 hours of work per week. You can do the searching in the manuals if you wish.

 

[smokey]

Hi PMM
Thanks a lot for your prompt response.However, here is my calculation details using the exact dates of employment. Per the exact dates of my part time work; lets take my part time experience with Employer B,in which i have been working since January 09 2006 to June 31 2008 (Even though, i am still working on this part time job, lets do the math until the end of last month only, just to keep it simple). In this case, total number of hours i have (from Employer B only) will be = 20 hours/week* 119 weeks = 2380 hours.
Is my math right, PMM? I'm sure you have done some specific calculation to come up with those 1300 hours.But, i wanted to get a clear picture of this,because the potential of my application approval depends on how much i get from my part-time experience.

thanks
Roger

Hi PMM, Ocanada, olusolalekan and other friends,
I am now more confused than i was before entering this thread. Please help me understand this part-time job stuffs. I know its a bit complicated, but i am not sure why my calculation does not work with the one you guys came up with.
thank you
Roger

 

[smokey]

Hi PMM
Thanks a lot for your prompt response.However, here is my calculation details using the exact dates of employment. Per the exact dates of my part time work; lets take my part time experience with Employer B,in which i have been working since January 09 2006 to June 31 2008 (Even though, i am still working on this part time job, lets do the math until the end of last month only, just to keep it simple). In this case, total number of hours i have (from Employer B only) will be = 20 hours/week* 119 weeks = 2380 hours.
Is my math right, PMM? I'm sure you have done some specific calculation to come up with those 1300 hours.But, i wanted to get a clear picture of this,because the potential of my application approval depends on how much i get from my part-time experience.

thanks
Roger

Hi PMM, Ocanada, olusolalekan and other friends,
I am now more confused than i was before entering this thread. Please help me understand this part-time job stuffs. I know its a bit complicated, but i am not sure why my calculation does not work with the one you guys came up with.
thank you
Roger

 

[olusolalekan]

Smokey,

Nobody is coming up with any calculation for you. Ocanada, PMM and I are just giving you hints/guidance to calculate your work experience. None of us is an immigration lawyer. What you need to do is either apply after scorinf 16 points through IELTS and hope the experience other than the 15 mnths in Africa and 2/3 months (june-August) is counted as a total of 18 months. This is because 37.5 hours per week job is a full-time job.

If CIC goes by the 1950 = 1 year that PMM suggested, then you are more than good to go!

you get confused easily because you are a lil pessimistic like me (if we were talking about my case. but trust me you have enough. If you need a pro to tell you, used lawyers and the Cohen firm that owns this site is a good one.

 

[smokey]

Smokey,

Nobody is coming up with any calculation for you. Ocanada, PMM and I are just giving you hints/guidance to calculate your work experience. None of us is an immigration lawyer. What you need to do is either apply after scorinf 16 points through IELTS and hope the experience other than the 15 mnths in Africa and 2/3 months (june-August) is counted as a total of 18 months. This is because 37.5 hours per week job is a full-time job.

If CIC goes by the 1950 = 1 year that PMM suggested, then you are more than good to go!

you get confused easily because you are a lil pessimistic like me (if we were talking about my case. but trust me you have enough. If you need a pro to tell you, used lawyers and the Cohen firm that owns this site is a good one.

Hi olusolalekan
Thanks. I understand that asking you guys to calculate points for each of us would be too much. A reason we get more pessimistic about those, is that when we consult you, PMM and other knowledgeable persons, and get something different from what our calculation shows, we begin losing confidence. For example, I still do not understand the difference between my and PMM's calculation of total # of hours from my employer B (2380 hours Vs. 1300 hours).

 

[Leon]

PMM,

where did you get the specific 1950 from? I haven't seen anything specific like that on CIC website. Please direct us to specific rules/guidance to that effect. I read item #7 of the schedule you posted but it doesn't clearly say anything about part-time jobs. I am not saying you are wrong, i just want to know the backup evidence to that interpretation.

It's here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/EnGLIsh/information/applications/guides/4000ESap2.asp under Definitions: Full-time job equivalent: Defined as 1,950 hours of paid employment.

 

[smokey]

Leon, Thanks for the sourcelink.
However, i am more curious to know the reason behind difference between my calculation (2380 hours) and PMM's calculation (1300 hours) for a job with employer B, discussed above. It would be completely a mistake for me to apply if my math is somehow incorrect.
I had replied PMM, and hopefully he will kindly explain it.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Leon, Thanks for the sourcelink.
However, i am more curious to know the reason behind difference between my calculation (2380 hours) and PMM's calculation (1300 hours) for a job with employer B, discussed above. It would be completely a mistake for me to apply if my math is somehow incorrect.
I had replied PMM, and hopefully he will kindly explain it.

Here is your original post re: the part time jobs.

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A = 12 weeks @ 37.5 hrs =450 hrs
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs

Total 1500 hrs = .76 year approx depending on actual start dates.

PMM

 

[smokey]

Hi

Leon, Thanks for the sourcelink.
However, i am more curious to know the reason behind difference between my calculation (2380 hours) and PMM's calculation (1300 hours) for a job with employer B, discussed above. It would be completely a mistake for me to apply if my math is somehow incorrect.
I had replied PMM, and hopefully he will kindly explain it.

Here is your original post re: the part time jobs.

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A = 12 weeks @ 37.5 hrs =450 hrs
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs

Total 1500 hrs = .76 year approx depending on actual start dates.

PMM

PMM, thanks a lot for you help. You don't really know how grateful for your and other friends (including olusolalekan, ocanada) for their favor in this thread. Based on all of these here is what i have came up with as my final calculation for work experience points, It would be great if you could confirm two short answers at the bottom.

From my full-time (40 hours/week) experience for 15 months from my home country in Africa.
Total years = 1.25

From part time Graduate Research Asst experiences from my recent MS and PhD programs in the US,

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A = 12 weeks @ 37.5 hrs =450 hrs
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs

Total 1500 hrs = .76 year approx depending on actual start dates.

Jan. 2006 - June 2008 for 20 hours/week with employer B = 119 weeks @ 20 hrs = 2380 hrs.= 1.22 yrs

In this way my total experience in years (acc. to 1950 hrs) is = 1.25+0.76+1.22 = 3.23 yrs.


Now, 2 quick questions. Trust me, these are the last questions i may had.

Question1. Do you think the above math is correct, and my total experience, in your opinion should give me 19 points?

Question2. This is related to the rules. The guideline says the candiate must have a one year continuous full-time experience or equivalent in part time. My Africa job i think i enough for this. But do you think the another job with Employer B, would be an appropriate equivalent?

 

[smokey]

Hi

Leon, Thanks for the sourcelink.
However, i am more curious to know the reason behind difference between my calculation (2380 hours) and PMM's calculation (1300 hours) for a job with employer B, discussed above. It would be completely a mistake for me to apply if my math is somehow incorrect.
I had replied PMM, and hopefully he will kindly explain it.

Here is your original post re: the part time jobs.

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A = 12 weeks @ 37.5 hrs =450 hrs
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs

Total 1500 hrs = .76 year approx depending on actual start dates.

PMM

PMM, thanks a lot for you help. You don't really know how grateful for your and other friends (including olusolalekan, ocanada) for their favor in this thread. Based on all of these here is what i have came up with as my final calculation for work experience points, It would be great if you could confirm two short answers at the bottom.

From my full-time (40 hours/week) experience for 15 months from my home country in Africa.
Total years = 1.25

From part time Graduate Research Asst experiences from my recent MS and PhD programs in the US,

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs.
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A = 12 weeks @ 37.5 hrs =450 hrs
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A = 20 weeks @ 15 hrs = 350 hrs

Total 1500 hrs = .76 year approx depending on actual start dates.

Jan. 2006 - June 2008 for 20 hours/week with employer B = 119 weeks @ 20 hrs = 2380 hrs.= 1.22 yrs

In this way my total experience in years (acc. to 1950 hrs) is = 1.25+0.76+1.22 = 3.23 yrs.


Now, 2 quick questions. Trust me, these are the last questions i may had.

Question1. Do you think the above math is correct, and my total experience, in your opinion should give me 19 points?

Question2. This is related to the rules. The guideline says the candiate must have a one year continuous full-time experience or equivalent in part time. My Africa job i think i enough for this. But do you think the another job with Employer B, would be an appropriate equivalent?

Hi PMM, and other seniors,
I am very grateful to you for your helps so far. Now, i am trying to conclude discussion in this thread. I would really really appreciate your kind remarks in above last 2 questions.

 

[smokey]

PMM Or any other seniors,
Please respond to my above questions. Thanks in advance.

Roger

 

[olusolalekan]

the answer to your q1 and q2 is YES!

even if the second part of q2 is not correct, the african experience is good enough to meet the "continous 1 year" rule.

You are good to go. get the IELTS arranged and good luck.