PMM or any knowledgable friends, your help needed urgently.

[smokey]

I have a question regarding work experience for Skilled Worker category. I would appreciate your kind help.

During 2001, I earned a full-time (40 hours/week) experience for 15 months (in qualified NOC category) from my home country in Africa. I am wondering how many points can i get from this alone.
Also, i have some other recent part-time experiences from US, I am curious how many points those will be eligible for.

The following recent experiences are from my recent MS and PhD programs in the US, in which i had a part time RA jobs in a broken contracts but in a continuous employment with the same departments for considerable time. Those were

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A

Jan. 2006 - present (July 2008) for 20 hours/week with employer B

I could not come up with the final score i will get from those experiences. Different people suggested me different, and now i hope this will be solved from this forum.


Roger

 

[ocanada]

for the 15months, for sure u earn 15 points as its full time listed in NOC.
u can apply using this or lets say your present work experience is listed in noc, then if you working for 20hours per week, then from jan 2006 till july 2008 its about 26 months i guess, since this is part time, then u can asay its about one year full time ! 12 months ) which earns you about 17 points in total if you think since your total work experience will be about 15months + 12 months = 27 mohts full time, so its about 17 points.
i hope it helps but please do take other advices also.
wishing you all the best
GOD BLESS YOU
OCANADA

 

[Leon]

PMM has answered this same question on http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/work-history-calculations-t9562.0.html

 

[smokey]

Hi friends.
Thanks ocanada and Leon for the reply. I am curious how you guys, PMM & other experts would think about points of my total experiences. I went thru that thread Leon posted, but i believe these cases vary by individuals.

Ocanada! why do you think that my part-time experiences (Aug. 2002 to Dec. 2003) with Employer A would not count at all. Your kind remarks would be appreciated.

Roger

 

[smokey]

ocanada, PMM, Leon or any others, your comments appreciated.
thanks in advance
Rog.

 

[olusolalekan]

Smokey,

Ocanada is right. Your African experience, just like mine counted, will count for you. 20 hour week for 2 years also equals 1 full year. I would just assume that i have 15 points if I were you. I am sure you will get 25 from education, 10 from age and 16 from IELTS...that is 66 points without the part time job you are looking at. You will be fine. delay is dangerous. i would apply if i were you before they change the passmark/rules.

 

[smokey]

olusolalekan,
Thanks for your opinion friend. Your calculation is right that my points would be 66 without counting my part-time jobs. I am curious why you would count only 15 points from my total experience, as opposed to 17 that ocanada suggested. Any reason you suspect behind zero point for my part-time experience with employer B? Also, what would you think of my part-time experience with employer A?

Also, if i got only 15 from my experience, and assuming that the consular will be too generous to award me 16 points for my English, i will have total score of 66. In such scenario, i was wondering why would you say that having 66 is fine enough for me to apply without any delay (given the fact that pass score is currently 67 NOT 66)?.



your comments much appreciated!
thanks in advance

 

[ocanada]

if your part time experience with the employer b is listed in the noc, then its about 16 months part time. so u can add them all up and see how many years experience u get.
if you manage to get more than 24 months full time then u can get 17 points.
also, y dnt u take the french test.
it ll give u additional points also.

 

[smokey]

Hi ocanada
Thanks a lot. I think the RA jobs are qualified for NOC category (based on an earlier thread in this forum), and my part-time experience with employer B should count and help me make my points 17 (as you also suggested, i get 15 already from my full time 1 year experience in Africa). But, i am more curious about my experience with employer A (also RA job and hopefully qualified for NOC). Any comments please.

Thanks for your suggestion to take French test, but unfortunately i have no French skills at all.

 

[olusolalekan]

Smokey,

I did not say the CIC will award you 16 points for English. I was saying you will EARN 16 points for English by taking the IELTS and scoring minimum of 7 in all the four sections. I did the exam without practising and got my 16 points! I am from an English speaking West African country and that helps if you are also from an English speaking country or if you have been speaking the language for a long time. That exam is VERY SIMPLE! You will get 16 point for language for sure.

Now about French test that others have suggested. 3 weeks practise for a novice like you will surely get you the minimum possible in that exam and you would score at least 2.

I will research and get back to you per part-time work experience.

 

[smokey]

Thanks, olusolalekan
Its nice to know that you belong to the same area as well. I plan to take IELTS, but can not take the French test w/o spending a remarkable time on learning. becoz, i dont have french skill at all. I happened to grow up in India, so no French practice...
I currently have 66 points (assuming 16 in English, 10 from age, 25 from education, 15 from 1+ year full-time experience from Africa) and everything else like the way you calculated). To believe that i have a good shot in this, I really need to know how many points (if any) will i get from my part-time works from Employer A and Employer B in the US Schools. I really look forward to hearing from you and other friends on this. Different friends of mine suggest different ideas on this part-time thing, and i just could not calculate my points, despite reading many docs and having thorough knowledge of counting points in this immig. system.
Below is my full and part time work summaries for your comfort.


Full time (40 hours/week):
15 months (in qualified NOC category) from my home country in Africa

Part-Time (Grad Research Asst. in USA)
Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A

Jan. 2006 - present (July 2008) for 20 hours/week with employer B

Thanks in advance
Roger

 

[PMM]

Hi

I have a question regarding work experience for Skilled Worker category. I would appreciate your kind help.

During 2001, I earned a full-time (40 hours/week) experience for 15 months (in qualified NOC category) from my home country in Africa. I am wondering how many points can i get from this alone.
Also, i have some other recent part-time experiences from US, I am curious how many points those will be eligible for.

The following recent experiences are from my recent MS and PhD programs in the US, in which i had a part time RA jobs in a broken contracts but in a continuous employment with the same departments for considerable time. Those were

Aug. 2002 - Dec. 2002 for 15 hours/week with employer A
Janu. 2003- May 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A
June 2003- Aug 2003 for 37.5 hours/week with employer A
Aug 2003 - Dec. 2003 for 15 hours/week with employer A

Jan. 2006 - present (July 2008) for 20 hours/week with employer B

I could not come up with the final score i will get from those experiences. Different people suggested me different, and now i hope this will be solved from this forum.


Roger

1. Your part time work is about 1300 hours, which is .67 of a year, +1.25 year of continuous (assuming that they are all credited as A,B or O) = 1.92 years, which equals 15 points for skilled work., possible 17.

PMM

 

[smokey]

Hi PMM, thanks for your help. The way you calculate hours and then full time years is something i need to know. The continuous work is really straight forward as you suggest. However, i am wondering how you came up with just 1300 hours for my part time experiences. Here is what i calculated, and please kindly let me know if i am not doing my math correctly. If i count only my current part time job with Employer B (20 hours/week, January 2006 to present), and summing up hours on the basis of 20 hours/week*4 weeks/month for 31 months (from jan 06 to july 08)= 20*4*31 = 2480 hours. In addition, the job i had with employer A was also part time RA job in graduate school, and i expect would count as NOC job. If i had a luck to count those, then the total number of hours from part-time experience would be even more.
OR may be i am completely off in doing these calcuations?

One more question. you also mentioned that "15 points for skilled work., possible 17". Just curious, do they round those years like this?

Thanks PMM once again and I would appreciate your remarks on my questions above.
Roger

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hi PMM, thanks for your help. The way you calculate hours and then full time years is something i need to know. The continuous work is really straight forward as you suggest. However, i am wondering how you came up with just 1300 hours for my part time experiences. Here is what i calculated, and please kindly let me know if i am not doing my math correctly. If i count only my current part time job with Employer B (20 hours/week, January 2006 to present), and summing up hours on the basis of 20 hours/week*4 weeks/month for 31 months (from jan 06 to july 08)= 20*4*31 = 2480 hours. In addition, the job i had with employer A was also part time RA job in graduate school, and i expect would count as NOC job. If i had a luck to count those, then the total number of hours from part-time experience would be even more.
OR may be i am completely off in doing these calcuations?

One more question. you also mentioned that "15 points for skilled work., possible 17". Just curious, do they round those years like this?

Thanks PMM once again and I would appreciate your remarks on my questions above.
Roger

!. They don't round up.
2. You know the exact dates that you worked, I don't. So add up the hours of Part time work, divide by 1950 which gives you the years of part time work.

PMM

 

[olusolalekan]

PMM,

where did you get the specific 1950 from? I haven't seen anything specific like that on CIC website. Please direct us to specific rules/guidance to that effect. I read item #7 of the schedule you posted but it doesn't clearly say anything about part-time jobs. I am not saying you are wrong, i just want to know the backup evidence to that interpretation.