*PLS HELP All Members* Fiancee's visa rejected

[nyxcupido]

Hello Everyone,

I am a Permanent Resident of Canada and my Fiancee is an Indian national working in UAE as an Assistant Manager for the past 1.5 years. We are trying for her visitor visa so she can visit me in Canada and we can get married here in Vancouver. She got her visitor's visa rejected today. The reasons are as stated below which I find really vague:

1) Travel History : She is an Indian citizen and works in Ras Al Khaimah, UAE. She already travels regularly back and forth. This is the first time she would be travelling to third country.

2) Immigration status in country of Residence : Aren't all foreign nationals living and working in UAE have the same type of work visa? UAE does not provide residency or citizenship anyways so I hope they knew about this at least.

3) I am not satisfied that you have sufficient funds, including income or assets, to carry out your purpose in Canada or to maintain yourself while in Canada : She had CAD $10,000 in her bank account of her own. I inquired and found it to be sufficient for a single traveler.

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Is it ok to re-apply in 2 weeks with a travel itinerary like flight and hotel bookings? What other documents can be provided since there is no option otherwise to proved her travel history. Or do we consult a visa specialist in Dubai?

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

Please post the specifics of your case:
1. Purpose and duration of visit

2. Documents which she submitted

3. Her ties to India and to the UAE

4. Did you invite her? As your fiancee/girlfriend?


Cheers

 

[scylla]

1) CIC is looking for past travel to countries requiring visas like US, UK and Europe.
2) You've misunderstood this refusal reason. CIC is looking for strong ties to her country of residence. Since she is only a temporary resident in the country where she is living now, this makes it more difficult for her to show strong ties.
3) What evidence did you provide for the funds and how long is her planned visit?

Generally speaking, it's difficult to obtain a visitor visa when you have a partner who is Canadian since CIC assumes you have plans on remaining in Canada long term. More difficult for your fiancee due to travel history and lack of ties.

 

[redherring]

Hi,

I got refused before as well.

1. What was said is correct, I think she need to have some travel histories to countries just for vacation and not work. Although sometimes it depends on the visa officer, I heard someone just traveled to Thailand that got a TRV.

2. This might be hard to prove since she's not a PR in UAE and she could just not go back. What can be done here is she could present a letter from the employer stating her postion and salary as well as the period she'd be away. If it's over a month, I suggest that they also include some details how her work would be covered like maybe there's an agreement that she'd be on call for emergencies or she'll be working remotely, etc. This is her reason to go back to UAE. She can include like assets she acquired in UAE maybe condo or lease maybe?

3. I believe that the visa officer wants to see her cash flow. So, it's important to show proof of income which would be coming from the employer as well as her bank statements for the last 4 months.

Lastly, you can write a cover letter pointing out how she addressed her reasons for refusal. Also, you can add a invitation letter telling some things you'll do, and you'll provide her accommodation, food, etc.

 

[nyxcupido]

Hi,

Please post the specifics of your case:
1. Purpose and duration of visit

2. Documents which she submitted

3. Her ties to India and to the UAE

4. Did you invite her? As your fiancee/girlfriend?


Cheers

Hi Bryanna,

Thank you for responding. Please find the answers below:

1. Purpose and duration of visit -- Purpose is tourism and visit family friend. 17 days which is what the vacation time she was granted from work.

2. Documents which she submitted -- Purpose letter drafted by her explaining her ties, work and purpose of visit, Bank statements, Invitation letter by family friend as a supporting document, Immigration forms and Letter from her employer stating title, salary, joining date and vacation period granted.

3. Her ties to India and to the UAE -- Citizen of India. Family in India. Worker status in UAE.

4. Did you invite her? As your fiancee/girlfriend? -- No. Her family friend. No blood relation though.

 

[nyxcupido]

1) CIC is looking for past travel to countries requiring visas like US, UK and Europe.
2) You've misunderstood this refusal reason. CIC is looking for strong ties to her country of residence. Since she is only a temporary resident in the country where she is living now, this makes it more difficult for her to show strong ties.
3) What evidence did you provide for the funds and how long is her planned visit?

Generally speaking, it's difficult to obtain a visitor visa when you have a partner who is Canadian since CIC assumes you have plans on remaining in Canada long term. More difficult for your fiancee due to travel history and lack of ties.

Hello Scylla,

Thank you for your reply. Please find the clarification as mentioned below:

1) CIC is looking for past travel to countries requiring visas like US, UK and Europe. --- Well, she has only been to India (country of citizenship) and UAE (country of current residence and work). I understand that a trip to US, UK, etc. would have proved beneficiary.

2) You've misunderstood this refusal reason. CIC is looking for strong ties to her country of residence. Since she is only a temporary resident in the country where she is living now, this makes it more difficult for her to show strong ties. --- I get the point. But if she goes back to India and applies from there, then she is technically out of work. She will no longer have her employer's letter if she decided to apply from India. Would showing her father's assets or property prove strong ties with home country?

3) What evidence did you provide for the funds and how long is her planned visit? -- She provided her current salary account and savings account. Together, the funds were just more than $10,000. Should I advise her to have some more money deposited in the account?

Awaiting your response...

 

[nyxcupido]

Hi,

I got refused before as well.

1. What was said is correct, I think she need to have some travel histories to countries just for vacation and not work. Although sometimes it depends on the visa officer, I heard someone just traveled to Thailand that got a TRV.

2. This might be hard to prove since she's not a PR in UAE and she could just not go back. What can be done here is she could present a letter from the employer stating her postion and salary as well as the period she'd be away. If it's over a month, I suggest that they also include some details how her work would be covered like maybe there's an agreement that she'd be on call for emergencies or she'll be working remotely, etc. This is her reason to go back to UAE. She can include like assets she acquired in UAE maybe condo or lease maybe?

3. I believe that the visa officer wants to see her cash flow. So, it's important to show proof of income which would be coming from the employer as well as her bank statements for the last 4 months.

Lastly, you can write a cover letter pointing out how she addressed her reasons for refusal. Also, you can add a invitation letter telling some things you'll do, and you'll provide her accommodation, food, etc.

Hello Redherring,

Thank you for your advise. Please find my doubts on your observations:

1. Yes, we thought about it. May be a short trip to visa exempt countries might come handy in front of the visa officer.

2. Yes, she did provide a letter from her employer stating title, salary, vacation dates for 18 days, returning to work dates, etc. However, she did not provide a copy of there residence lease agreement. Also, I think we should have provided flight ticket itinerary as well.

3. All her bank statements for last 3 months had her salary deposits and it all added upto $10,000 in her own bank account.

Lastly, I did not invite her as we are not legally related. I know that no matter how hard we try, its upto the visa officer who takes the decision in a jiffy. I just want to be a little more cautious this time as I really wish her to get a visit visa this time.

Trips to Dubai are very long and expensive

 

[mikeymyke]

Hi Bryanna,

Thank you for responding. Please find the answers below:

1. Purpose and duration of visit -- Purpose is tourism and visit family friend. 17 days which is what the vacation time she was granted from work.

didn't you say you were planning to get married? they probably assumed you were trying to marry and apply inland, and they guessed right

 

[alirz23]

or they watching this discussion forum

 

[Bryanna]

Hi,

Based on your posts, I honestly feel the chances of your fiancee getting a TRV are low.... even if you do not give any hints about your plans of getting married. Maybe it's a better idea if you marry her in India and then apply for her PR.

1. Purpose and duration of visit -- Purpose is tourism and visit family friend. 17 days which is what the vacation time she was granted from work.

It could've helped if she had prepared a day-by-day itinerary with expense estimates.... to prove she is a genuine visitor/tourist + has the funds to pay for her visit.

Purpose letter drafted by her explaining her ties, work and purpose of visit, Bank statements, Invitation letter by family friend as a supporting document, Immigration forms and Letter from her employer stating title, salary, joining date and vacation period granted.

She should've included 6 months (and not 3 months) salary slips + financial investments

3. Her ties to India and to the UAE -- Citizen of India. Family in India. Worker status in UAE.

Apart from her employment, she does not have any strong ties to either the UAE or to India.

Family in India will count as ties only if they are dependent on her financially.... for which she must prove she remits money to their bank account.

Would showing her father's assets or property prove strong ties with home country?

No. her father's property and assets cannot/will not help.

Only assets and property/land which is legally owned by her will help.

Should I advise her to have some more money deposited in the account?

Any last-minute deposits will appear as borrowed for the visa application. Her bank balance must match her income.

However, she did not provide a copy of there residence lease agreement.

This will help along with proofs of 2-3 months payments + highlight any forfeiture of deposit clause, if any


Cheers

 

[redherring]

Hello Redherring,

Thank you for your advise. Please find my doubts on your observations:

1. Yes, we thought about it. May be a short trip to visa exempt countries might come handy in front of the visa officer.

2. Yes, she did provide a letter from her employer stating title, salary, vacation dates for 18 days, returning to work dates, etc. However, she did not provide a copy of there residence lease agreement. Also, I think we should have provided flight ticket itinerary as well.

3. All her bank statements for last 3 months had her salary deposits and it all added upto $10,000 in her own bank account.

Lastly, I did not invite her as we are not legally related. I know that no matter how hard we try, its upto the visa officer who takes the decision in a jiffy. I just want to be a little more cautious this time as I really wish her to get a visit visa this time.

Trips to Dubai are very long and expensive

Hi nyxcupido,

I think these are good but I just want to point out that pay slips (from the company) would probably help. I think ticket reservation would help as well (don't book it as it's a little risky). Invitation is very important even if you don't have legal relations yet, just say maybe that you're committed partners and that she wants to visit and you want to take her on tour, include your address, phone number, any ID number, etc. I think what they want to see is that she has a contact and that they'll easily find her with you. Even if you're just friends, you can invite still. My friend invited a friend and immigration confirmed by calling when she showed the invitation letter to the CBSA. You can invite anyone you know really.

 

[alirz23]

@redherring
does cic call for invitation letter verification? when did your friend apply?

 

[redherring]

@redherring
does cic call for invitation letter verification? when did your friend apply?

@alirz23
Late last year. Yes, they sometimes call to verify. They also call employers to verify information like salary, leave period, tenure, and anything that's in the employer's letter you submitted to them. They won't verify anything that's not there, if you didn't put your salary they won't ask your employer for it and if that's their may reason for refusing you, then they'll automatically refuse you.