Please Help!!!!!Where to state NOC code that I want to apply under

[PR_Canada_Reqd]

Based on inputs from all of you, this is what i plan to do:

1. In Schedule 8 Economy class form, for question "Your work experience in Canada",

i will fill that from 2010 to 2013, occupation is Systems Testing Technician,
NOC code 2283

My reasoning is that only code 2283 occupation description exactly matches my roles and responsibilities that i have been doing while in canada, right from day 1.


2. Will not incude any other NOC code on that form, though my 3 work permits all contain different occupations

Please correct me if i am wrong. Thank you.

 

[PR_Canada_Reqd]

Senior Members, Please Help..

Really looking forward for your expert advise. Many Thanks

 

[JBLoknath]

So, Here is what you should do:

Use the latest wp NOC code (2283). State complete work experience. That's it. Do not get confused further

You have an option of stating all the NOC codes (as Winterfox has rightly said). But some people (including me) have used only one NOC code.

 

[PR_Canada_Reqd]

So there is no harm in ignoring the NOC codes present in Work Permit ? This is my major doubt.

As I have performed the same duties from the Day 1, I am thinking its better to apply under one NOC code (2283). I will be explaining the same in the additional sheet that why I have mentioned only one NOC code.

 

[jsm0085]

So there is no harm in ignoring the NOC codes present in Work Permit ? This is my major doubt.

As I have performed the same duties from the Day 1, I am thinking its better to apply under one NOC code (2283). I will be explaining the same in the additional sheet that why I have mentioned only one NOC code.

I disagree completely.

You have three work permits. That is, three periods of employment with three different NOC's on CLOSED work permits. CIC will know this either way, but there is no reason for you to put down one NOC code, you would be choosing to fill out the forms incorrectly. Since they are all of a similar description, I don't see the different NOC codes being a huge issue, as long as you have a strong explanation letter.

You should mention each period of employment with each NOC.

However, your real issue is the reference letter. Without this, as you will have seen from this forum, your chance of acceptance is extremely low. You mention your employer wont write a reference letter to "support" your application. You don't need them to support your application, you need them to provide a reference letter, the same way you would need one if you were applying for a new job. You may need to work hard to get it, but I would be focusing on this before submitting an application. Job offers and explanation letters are unlikely to see your application approved.

 

[jsm0085]

I disagree completely.

You have three work permits. That is, three periods of employment with three different NOC's on CLOSED work permits. CIC will know this either way, but there is no reason for you to put down one NOC code, you would be choosing to fill out the forms incorrectly. Since they are all of a similar description, I don't see the different NOC codes being a huge issue, as long as you have a strong reference letter.

You should mention each period of employment with each NOC.

However, your real issue is the reference letter. Without this, as you will have seen from this forum, your chance of acceptance is extremely low. You mention your employer wont write a reference letter to "support" your application. You don't need them to support your application, you need them to provide a reference letter, the same way you would need one if you were applying for a new job. You may need to work hard to get it, but I would be focusing on this before submitting an application. Job offers and explanation letters are unlikely to see your application approved.

 

[Winterfox]

So there is no harm in ignoring the NOC codes present in Work Permit ? This is my major doubt.

As I have performed the same duties from the Day 1, I am thinking its better to apply under one NOC code (2283). I will be explaining the same in the additional sheet that why I have mentioned only one NOC code.

I think u shud mention all ur noc codes along with ur position mentioned on the work permit.
Here is the reason why.,.. a lot of people on this forum have got their application rejected due to mismatch in duties and noc codes... if u mention only 1 noc code and god forbid ur rejected then atleast u have 2 more noc codes to rely on and the officer will take into consideration ur other 2 codes in order to qualify u rather than having to outright reject u.
So basically its a cushion factor, its best to spread ur risk than concentrating on one noc code.

cheers
Winterfox ... winters finally over but fox still remains on the prowl

 

[jsm0085]

I think u shud mention all ur noc codes along with ur position mentioned on the work permit.
Here is the reason why.,.. a lot of people on this forum have got their application rejected due to mismatch in duties and noc codes... if u mention only 1 noc code and god forbid ur rejected then atleast u have 2 more noc codes to rely on and the officer will take into consideration ur other 2 codes in order to qualify u rather than having to outright reject u.
So basically its a cushion factor, its best to spread ur risk than concentrating on one noc code.

cheers
Winterfox ... winters finally over but fox still remains on the prowl

That is, the position designated by your employer. NOT the NOC title.

The two NOC codes don't give a "Second chance" as it was the same job! I think you are a little confused.

Basically: -

1) Get ref. letter
2) Fill out form with correct NOC codes

 

[Winterfox]

That is, the position designated by your employer. NOT the NOC title.

The two NOC codes don't give a "Second chance" as it was the same job! I think you are a little confused.

Basically: -

1) Get ref. letter
2) Fill out form with correct NOC codes

Yea designation by the employer is exactly the same designation mentioned on the bound work permit too, if he is bound that is.
Im not confused, my ideology is 3 is better than 1, cic officers r making silly mistakes if uve read the other threads, like ignoring pages by mistake and then returning the application saying page missing... so I woudnt wanna take a chance nor give them an chance...
safe than sorry mate.. safe than sorry

 

[JBLoknath]

I think we are complicating a very commonplace scenario. There are two options:

1. If your reference letter is detailed enough for one NOC code, use that NOC code in the form. Make sure that this NOC matches with your wp NOC description.

2. If you are not sure, or your reference letter mentions major duties of all your NOCs, then use all the NOCs!

The thing is: The NOC codes that you use in the form should match your wp, as well as reference letter. I think your next step should be analyzing your reference letter to understand what is best for you.

In the other hand, if you do not have a reference letter, there is a high chance of rejection. This really depends on the VO`s consideration!
You can try your best with:

1. Use all NOCs in the form
2. Write an explanation letter for not providing the reference letter. Try to attach the refusal letter or email from Employer.
3. Use Forms and additional pages to detail out your responsibilities covering all relevant NOCs
4. Give professional references (client or colleague) who can verify your experience.

Hope this helps.

 

[yahoo7]

I am in a similar situation.

I performed duties related to NOC 2171 during my entire stay in Canada but unfortunately, my first WP has the occupation as "Embedded Systems & Software Designer" and all the subsequent ones have "Computer System and Analysts". I recently came to know that "Embedded Systems & Software Designer" does not belong to NOC 2171. I have already sent the app form with NOC 2171 for my entire stay in Canada.

Whatever reference letters, LMO related documents I have state the NOC as 2171. So I thought that it would be a problem if I put a NOC just to match with the WP occupation title and really does not reflect the duties which I actually perform.

Please advise what should I be doing now?

 

[yahoo7]

I disagree completely.

You have three work permits. That is, three periods of employment with three different NOC's on CLOSED work permits. CIC will know this either way, but there is no reason for you to put down one NOC code, you would be choosing to fill out the forms incorrectly. Since they are all of a similar description, I don't see the different NOC codes being a huge issue, as long as you have a strong explanation letter.

You should mention each period of employment with each NOC.

However, your real issue is the reference letter. Without this, as you will have seen from this forum, your chance of acceptance is extremely low. You mention your employer wont write a reference letter to "support" your application. You don't need them to support your application, you need them to provide a reference letter, the same way you would need one if you were applying for a new job. You may need to work hard to get it, but I would be focusing on this before submitting an application. Job offers and explanation letters are unlikely to see your application approved.

I disagree with your opinion jsm0085..NO offence but this is what I think..When you arrive in Canada, the officer who issues the WP based on the documentation you provide may not be completely aware of the occupation he should be putting on the WP doc and hence sometimes may type an incorrect one. And this does not stop here...when a WP extension filed under the ICT category, there is a possibility that the WP might be issued with an incorrect Occupation again. I know a lot of people with an incorrect Occupation title as compared to the duties they perform..

We can surely wait for more responses from seniors in this forum as I am sure that there are many of our friends out there in a similar situation. let us have a healthy debate and share our experiences in regards to this matter "Discrepancy between duties performed and the occupation title in the WP".