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I am curious as to why most of you chose Canada Phd to study over US PhD? Is it a matter of residency or is it something else?
 

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I think these wise guys are trying to avert the mishap after Ph.D. Like lot of IT/Ph.D. ppl in US have to leave..but here they are applying to immigrate as well as looking for Ph.D.. I like the idea...

How about coming for Ph.D. and then applying to immigrate....is it valid anymore?
 

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it is valid, i think those guys apply as CEC but of course, it would be easier to come as PR and then do PhD. Funding may be easier that way too.

Coming to do PhD and then applying for PR after PhD carries the same risk as those of US. I am surprised to hear of PhDs not finding jobs here in the US. Everyone (except one person) has found job and that person too, he left it so late that he finished his PhD on the last days of his time allowed so he had no time to look for a job. He is brilliant, IIT guy so I am sure would have found a job otherwise.
 

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I agree with Maaties, PhD is not an easy task esp if you are planning in Economics/Finance/Business/Physics/Statistics as approx all universities in Canada ask you to appear in comprehensive exams at end of first year and half of the students who are brilliant still fail the exams and leave the program with another MA. I will find you my destiny next week hopefully thursday. PhD is also a long commitment 4-5 years with living on minimum as university fundings are too basic. Some time I regret my decisions but then waiting for PR makes me to go through it. I know if I pass my comps then will work toward empirical side rather than theory and will try to wrap it up asap.
 

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YellowTopaz said:
Dear friends,
I have made a task list to get admission in PhD program:
Make a list of universities in which a PhD program in ur field is available.
1.Go to the site of canadauniversity.net (I don't like this site much as it confuses me, I normally takes the university list from Wikipedia and then go through the web of university, later I check the reputation of university as well, e.g. PhD from Trent may not land me good job in my filed, university+reputation). You can easily find ranking on web by subject and over all as well. Normal is
1-3) Toronto, UBC - McGill (these are the best so you will find UBC ranked 1, Uft 2 and McGill 3 or reverse)
4) Waterloo, 5) Montreal or Alberta, 6) Queens 7) McMaster, 8) Calgary 9) UWO 10) SFU 11) Ottawa or

Within North America:
1. Mcgill 2. U of T 3. UBC 4. Waterloo´ 5. Queens
By Europeans:
1. Mcgill 2. U of T 3. UBC 4. Waterloo/Western Ontario 5. Queens´
By Asian and Pacific
1. U of T 2. UBC 3. Mcgill 4. Waterloo 5. Western Ontario

2.Open sites of univs one by one.
3.See their graduate programs.
4.Find If they are offering a PhD for ur inerest.
5.If yes check the admission requirements.
6.If u think u fall in these criteria then (Criteria is always min and universities normally don't take students with min requirements)
7.Visit the faculty members' WebPages. (Faculty interest is diversified so, when if you find someone who is close to your interest send them email with small proposal one page is enough as they don't have time to go through long papers. Choose 2-3 profs from each uni as you will need 2-3 to supervise you 2 is min.)
8.See their interests and particularly try to find the people who r more active in the department or this is very good if they r offering research positions. (Good university mean If you divide uniz is Tier 1-5, universities which will fall in Tier 1-3 will always offer you RA/TA post, I normally look this from Wikipedia, which gives the detail about how much govt, funding university got on highlights at the R.H.S of the page. Uniz with 200M> in tier 3)
9.If there is a faculty member of ur interest then read care fully about what is he doing. (Some effect as in each province, if you are in one university, you can take courses in other universities due to agreement (not sure about all but Ontario and BC offer this), when you take the course in other university in same province, if you are in good terms with prof in exchange uni, you can ask him to be join your PhD committee and then if your department allowed, normally departments do if the prof have good reputation as it can increase chances of employment for their PhD candidate. So, if you are in low rank university try to do this, will help. If I passed my comps am going to Toronto for couple of courses and will try my best to bring that prof on my committee.)

10.Write a nice email and send to that person (try to impress him very small but impressive email will work). Subject of the email should be “PhD candidate” etc. (It's bit tricky, as there is a Graduate committee who decide about admission if your potential supervisor is happy and ranks you excellent but committee say no, then you lost it. So, be more specific in application show your research stamina and interest. As PhD is a 5-6 years commitment and uni don't want you to leave in 2-3 years.If you are near by min admission requirements mean 0-5%+ then do some research work.)
11.If he refuses select another person
12.If he agrees then
13.Prepare ur application according to the faculty member.
Similalrly apply to other universities from the list. ( I had around 89% Canadian marks in my MSc , 84% in BSc converted from UK, 2 years part time Research assistant work, then a years full time work in capacity of Economist. I applied to 13 universities. I was rejected from 9 and some low ranked universities rejected me but I came to waterloo due to two reasons one funding is higher then other uniz+good reputation in industry (not very good in academic in economics)+work placement for 4-8 months with university help and majority of MA and PhD students with PR or Citizenship get the placement and then continue to work their. It's a new program only two PhD graduates this year both got the job in government both on PR, with approx 75K-90K. Both are working at same place where they done their placement term. This give me bit of security so I choose waterloo. One liner for the paragraph apply to min 6-10 universities it's costly but PhD admissions are too selective.

I will request Zulkfal and other senior members to plz give ur comments.[/color]
regards
yellow



Any thing else ask me, more than happy to help. I don't like Waterloo city may be I don't have friends, spending time alone is not easy. But university is great helpful people teachers understand your needs and are willing to help u out of their limits, there will be some crooks but majority will be good. Ontario has one benefit mentioned in Point 9 due to too many good universities on 1-2 hours distance compare it from Waterloo, Toronto 2 hours, Western 2 hours, Queens 3 hours, mcmaster 1h 30 mins. Where as BC has only two near by SFU and BC remaining are far away. So, will always prefer Ontario. Plus Ontario just lunch a PNP program for PhD's if you have a PhD from Ontario uni you will get PNP with no other requirement e.g work expect avg 7 band in IELTS.
 

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hi

I am doing phd in computer science in India.Hopefully submitting by this year.I had already applied for PR under 4131 category and hopefully will receive PR before my PhD viva

I am confused what to do in Canada....i need to upgrade my education to get canadian experience.

I m not interested in doing PhD gain in Canada ..but what all other options are with me..

plz advice
 

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imran007 said:
hi

I am doing phd in computer science in India.Hopefully submitting by this year.I had already applied for PR under 4131 category and hopefully will receive PR before my PhD viva

I am confused what to do in Canada....i need to upgrade my education to get canadian experience.

I m not interested in doing PhD gain in Canada ..but what all other options are with me..

plz advice
It depends what you want to do in Canada, some time industry may accept your Indian PhD but for academic its rear. Still to enter in industry gain some Canadian diploma or course enter in market get 5-6 months Canadian experience. After this experience and course you will be able to utilize your Indian PhD.
 

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thanks zulfkar

actually i m a bit confused..i am not able to decide what all courses i can do to get my indian Phd recognized..though i m doing phd from JNU [one of the reputed univ of India]

plz advise
 

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Your degree is recognized, they will accept the degree but they always prefer people with degrees from US or Canada. I have BSc from Queen Mary (in world top 100) and MSc from University College London (in world top 10) still people here don't bother. I came to Canada for PhD, so I didn't looked for market but from what I heard from company visits was not that good. When you arrive here check for courses which can get you in to job market. Once you are in and you have Canadian experience then your qualification will give you boost. you need Canadian qualification to enter in job market then this experience will boost your qualification from any where.
 

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Dear Zulkfal thanks a lot for such explaination this is realy very helping...... :) :)

and

Hello imran007 welcome to the thread...... :D
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zulkfal said:
Your degree is recognized, they will accept the degree but they always prefer people with degrees from US or Canada. I have BSc from Queen Mary (in world top 100) and MSc from University College London (in world top 10) still people here don't bother. I came to Canada for PhD, so I didn't looked for market but from what I heard from company visits was not that good. When you arrive here check for courses which can get you in to job market. Once you are in and you have Canadian experience then your qualification will give you boost. you need Canadian qualification to enter in job market then this experience will boost your qualification from any where.
Thanks zulkfal ...for quick and elaborative reply ..+1 from my side

can u plz tell me what are the chances of getting research positions there.....Can u share in which field u r doing PhD....
Do you advice me to get my credentials evaluated there?

tc
 

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Planning to PHD from which university / institution in Canada, we need to research this first, For Instance if I want to do Master in Petroleum Engineering or Phd I first have to go through the Unversities those offering this progra e.g University ot Alberta or University of Regina, Then I should see the requirement of the University, Admission policy, document requirement and Fees require. After doing all above I can say I am planning and this thread can be useful to share the information--otherwise we wasting our time here.
 

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Dear

Planning to PHD from which university / institution in Canada, we need to research this first, For Instance if I want to do Master in Petroleum Engineering or Phd I first have to go through the Unversities those offering this progra e.g University ot Alberta or University of Regina, Then I should see the requirement of the University, Admission policy, document requirement and Fees require. After doing all above I can say I am planning and this thread can be useful to share the information--otherwise we wasting our time here.
@Hasher
We are not wasting our time in this thread...... People like zulfkal are helping us.... and sharing info is always helpful.......... if u have any info plz share with us also...........
 

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Dear Hasher,
By discussion we can decide about which university is best option for us. Even if there are some positions or related info we can share with each other.
cheers :)
 

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YellowTopaz said:
Dear Hasher,
By discussion we can decide about which university is best option for us. Even if there are some positions or related info we can share with each other.
cheers :)
I am sorry i don't mean to hurt you guys, really appreciate the contribution from Zulfak. But it is true that if we want to make this thread more effective each one us should spend some time on internet to find out for himself what is the best for them, then relevant question asked here would certainly help us

Some one want to start can go through province by by province e.g
http://www.canada-city.ca/canada-universities.php

Then selecting your subject you can understand which part of Canada you must be targetting e.g

http://www.canadian-universities.net/Universities/Programs/Petroleum_Engineering.html