Well it's not an overnight decision and certainly not based on just 2 lines I wrote on a forum. It's literally just an idea on a forum that we all know the government(s) has no interest in investigating or doing research on, regardless if it's even viable or not.
PGP - New Interest to Sponsor Form - Reopen??
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The mandate of the government is to serve citizens and PRs. There is no mandate to serve visitors.
"Managing" supervisa insurance is called insurance supervision and is done mostly by provinces, but is also done as part of financial oversight (partly at federal level). While doing more in this area specifically on supervisa insurance would obviously require some resources, it is something government does relatively routinely - makes sure that insurance policies offered are not complete rip-offs (consumer protection) and that the insurance companies can make good on their offerings (financial stability and various other rubrics).
It's not magic, and neither is it free; but neither does it have to be government "providing" this insurance, (micro)managing product offerings, or putting public money to risk, etc.
Oversight of insurance offerings by setting minimum standards in particular areas and licensing companies that offer them is pretty bread-and-butter stuff for insurance market regulation. (Complicated in Canada due to federal/provincial responsibilities etc., but not insurmountable).
That said, I'm still skeptical any govt would want to take it on (coordinating various levels of govt and navigating overlapping bureaucracies and related issues across 10 provinces is just a lot of hassle for not that many people), but let's not pretend that it would necessarily require government devoting vast resources. They could mostly just name a product that's required, set coverage standards, some min/max coverage, and let private insurance companies figure out the rest (although yes, there would be lots of policy issues). It's not the supervision that's expensive and resource intensive, it's the coverage.
The real problem (IMO) is likely to be that the type of coverage people basically want/expect for a supervisa is simply going to be expensive. Leading back to the problem of PGP overall, if it's not limited by a non-income quota, it would have to be limited by actual cost, which is unpopular - the old 'selling visas' complaint.
So most likely is some kind of lottery, whether called that or not.
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Eew, super entitled.
First of all, theres a reason why its closed, be thankful that theres still a chance for parents sponsorship even though we are immigrants here.
Second, Youre free to go back to whichever country you came from if you think its better which I doubt. Lastly, There are millions of immigrants who are giving tons of money to Canada, Canada doesnt need a super entitled person. Bye!
Count me in for petition or roadshow or news channel / media interview, I’m frustrated since last five years they keep sending ITA from remaining of sponsors in the pool since 2020 and not opening pool anymore for new sponsors for their parents which is completely injustices for those sponsor waiting for their parent to sponsor under PGP. We all are paying hefty tax to government of Canada, everyone should deserve fairness for their parent to sponsor under PGP.
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That is being done to attempt to prioritize people who have qualified the longest. Unless you are personally paying millions of dollars in taxes then paying taxes cover the costs of your own family not your parents. Canada has an ageing population and a healthcare crisis and the government needs to clarify that parent sponsorship is not guaranteed and certainly not guaranteed within a certain timeframe.
YOU are PAYING your taxes for YOURSELF
Has NOTHING to do with your parents getting sponsored
If taxes had anything to do with it . There wouldn’t be a PGP since parents grandparents have paid squat in taxes , which support the services they will get access to.
So they are getting access to services for free
Tell yah . When my liberal candidate comes knockin for my vote I’ll be tearing strips off him for this ridiculous program
Amongst other reasons
Btw I’ve been paying taxes for 40 years and have got squat from this car wreck of a Government. Haven’t the slightest clue why people continue to kick the dead horse on paying taxes in this bloody country. You ain’t special
Here’s one . My nephew who is a teenager, born here can’t get a friggin part time job in this country. Why would that be ?
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We moved to Canada in April 2021 with the hope of meeting the requirements to sponsor our parents' permanent residency (PR) by 2024, and eventually securing their PR in the following years. However, we now feel deeply let down by the Canadian government’s abrupt changes to immigration policies. While I understand that applicants from the 2020 pool have spent more time in Canada, the government should take urgent and compelling cases into account rather than leaving the sensitive issue of family reunification to chance.
For example, my father, who is 76 years old, suffers from multiple chronic health conditions, including coronary artery disease, diabetes, hypertension, and thyroid issues. Although his condition is stable at present, he requires regular monitoring and immediate access to high-quality healthcare. Unfortunately, the healthcare system in my home country lacks the emergency services Canada offers, such as 911 for urgent care. Living alone in his current environment puts him at significant risk, especially during medical emergencies.
While I am exploring the super visa option, it has its limitations. Insurance under this route covers emergencies but excludes ongoing medical checkups and necessary interventions to maintain his health. Additionally, pre-existing conditions are not covered in subsequent years if claims are filed within a 180-day window.
As a taxpayer contributing a five-figure sum annually, and with my parents prepared to bring nearly $1 million in investments to Canada by severing ties with their home country, we feel disheartened by the lack of viable options to reunite our family. We sincerely hope the interest to sponsor program reopens in 2025 and are eager to support any petitions or initiatives aimed at increasing its availability.
For example, my father, who is 76 years old, suffers from multiple chronic health conditions, including coronary artery disease, diabetes, hypertension, and thyroid issues. Although his condition is stable at present, he requires regular monitoring and immediate access to high-quality healthcare. Unfortunately, the healthcare system in my home country lacks the emergency services Canada offers, such as 911 for urgent care. Living alone in his current environment puts him at significant risk, especially during medical emergencies.
While I am exploring the super visa option, it has its limitations. Insurance under this route covers emergencies but excludes ongoing medical checkups and necessary interventions to maintain his health. Additionally, pre-existing conditions are not covered in subsequent years if claims are filed within a 180-day window.
As a taxpayer contributing a five-figure sum annually, and with my parents prepared to bring nearly $1 million in investments to Canada by severing ties with their home country, we feel disheartened by the lack of viable options to reunite our family. We sincerely hope the interest to sponsor program reopens in 2025 and are eager to support any petitions or initiatives aimed at increasing its availability.
No one knows what will happen in the next year. There have been no abrupt changes to PGP in years. It has been closed since 2020 to new profiles, and you entered Canada in 2021. Immigration programs have been cut including the PGP program. if it opens expect hundreds of thousands of profile submissions for around 15-20k spots. Also given your father’s medical conditions will he pass the medical and be admissable for the PGP program if selected in the lottery?
Paying 5 figures in taxes for 2-3 years is almost nothing if you’re trying to justify cost of 2 seniors as well as your dependents and future dependents. Parent sponsorship was never guaranteed so when you applied to immigrate did you not have a plan if your parents could not join you in Canada? Many have been trying for 5-10 years to sponsor their parents. Even if EOI is reopened I would expect there will be some sort of priority points for people who have been waiting the longest. With the volume of applicants when they reopen EOI there needs to be LICO verification to make sure candidates actually meet LICO and some sort of ranking. 15-20k spots when you have a couple hundred thousand applications makes it difficult to justify keeping a strict lottery system. Do think government should reinforce that parent sponsorship is not guaranteed.
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If your father's health condition needs so much care, will he be able to pass medical?
Healthcare in Canada is not all free. Waiting for government care home bed is very long (in some areas 2 years+...)
Private health aids and care homes are very expensive. (Any level of private care aids/helpers outside of what the government can provide is $40+ an hour. Private care home are now $9000+ per month if you cannot wait for the government bed. Medical equipment use for home care is VERY expensive.
Some may not think about it since hiring help is relatively affordable in home country. It's not the case in Canada.
It’s not just medical equipment things like hearing aids may be only partially covered or only a basic model covered. Costco is actually the best place to get hearing aids of all places in case people are in the market. Wheelchairs, walkers, incontinence products, etc. all not covered. The family would still have to pay for the government bed (~2k/month) because normally Canadian pension is diverted to cover LTC bed.
I am talking about hospital style beds, customized reclining wheelchair, patient lift for transfers, specialty mattress to avoid bed sore...etc.
These are each thousands of dollar.
None of these are covered.
If family is very poor, they can asked for charity free equipment loan/rental/ but there would no choice of model (like a generic wheelchair that may not fit the patient well).
We recently paid for hospital bed repair and just that is over $2k.
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With his health conditions, unfortunately there's a good chance he could be refused PR due to excessive demand. Good luck.