PGP - New Interest to Sponsor Form - Reopen??

[GFLiam]

You are over simplifying how private health insurance operated. There is a lot of work/workers to run a company to handle traveler health insurance. It's complex to calculate the deductible and the premium to make sure it covers the cost. I don't think citizens/PRs would want government to run this kind of service.

Well it's not an overnight decision and certainly not based on just 2 lines I wrote on a forum. It's literally just an idea on a forum that we all know the government(s) has no interest in investigating or doing research on, regardless if it's even viable or not.

 

[canuck78]

Well it's not an overnight decision and certainly not based on just 2 lines I wrote on a forum. It's literally just an idea on a forum that we all know the government(s) has no interest in investigating or doing research on, regardless if it's even viable or not.

The mandate of the government is to serve citizens and PRs. There is no mandate to serve visitors.

 

[armoured]

There is no way taxpayers are going to want to dedicate resources to manage supervisa insurance.

"Managing" supervisa insurance is called insurance supervision and is done mostly by provinces, but is also done as part of financial oversight (partly at federal level). While doing more in this area specifically on supervisa insurance would obviously require some resources, it is something government does relatively routinely - makes sure that insurance policies offered are not complete rip-offs (consumer protection) and that the insurance companies can make good on their offerings (financial stability and various other rubrics).

It's not magic, and neither is it free; but neither does it have to be government "providing" this insurance, (micro)managing product offerings, or putting public money to risk, etc.

Oversight of insurance offerings by setting minimum standards in particular areas and licensing companies that offer them is pretty bread-and-butter stuff for insurance market regulation. (Complicated in Canada due to federal/provincial responsibilities etc., but not insurmountable).

That said, I'm still skeptical any govt would want to take it on (coordinating various levels of govt and navigating overlapping bureaucracies and related issues across 10 provinces is just a lot of hassle for not that many people), but let's not pretend that it would necessarily require government devoting vast resources. They could mostly just name a product that's required, set coverage standards, some min/max coverage, and let private insurance companies figure out the rest (although yes, there would be lots of policy issues). It's not the supervision that's expensive and resource intensive, it's the coverage.

The real problem (IMO) is likely to be that the type of coverage people basically want/expect for a supervisa is simply going to be expensive. Leading back to the problem of PGP overall, if it's not limited by a non-income quota, it would have to be limited by actual cost, which is unpopular - the old 'selling visas' complaint.

So most likely is some kind of lottery, whether called that or not.

 

[canuck78]

"Managing" supervisa insurance is called insurance supervision and is done mostly by provinces, but is also done as part of financial oversight (partly at federal level). While doing more in this area specifically on supervisa insurance would obviously require some resources, it is something government does relatively routinely - makes sure that insurance policies offered are not complete rip-offs (consumer protection) and that the insurance companies can make good on their offerings (financial stability and various other rubrics).

It's not magic, and neither is it free; but neither does it have to be government "providing" this insurance, (micro)managing product offerings, or putting public money to risk, etc.

Oversight of insurance offerings by setting minimum standards in particular areas and licensing companies that offer them is pretty bread-and-butter stuff for insurance market regulation. (Complicated in Canada due to federal/provincial responsibilities etc., but not insurmountable).

That said, I'm still skeptical any govt would want to take it on (coordinating various levels of govt and navigating overlapping bureaucracies and related issues across 10 provinces is just a lot of hassle for not that many people), but let's not pretend that it would necessarily require government devoting vast resources. They could mostly just name a product that's required, set coverage standards, some min/max coverage, and let private insurance companies figure out the rest (although yes, there would be lots of policy issues). It's not the supervision that's expensive and resource intensive, it's the coverage.

The real problem (IMO) is likely to be that the type of coverage people basically want/expect for a supervisa is simply going to be expensive. Leading back to the problem of PGP overall, if it's not limited by a non-income quota, it would have to be limited by actual cost, which is unpopular - the old 'selling visas' complaint.

So most likely is some kind of lottery, whether called that or not.

@GFLiam was suggesting that supervisa insurance policies be offered through the government not acting as an oversight body.

 

[andreavonn]

I am in, if they don’t open in future, me and my wife both professional in high demand occupation with setup bussiness giving plenty of taxes to government, will leave this country and land safely in Saudi Arabia who will recieve us with open arms with loads of money and a place for our parents. I am definitely in to raise a petition!
In addition happy to write a letter to MP too …

Eew, super entitled.
First of all, theres a reason why its closed, be thankful that theres still a chance for parents sponsorship even though we are immigrants here.
Second, Youre free to go back to whichever country you came from if you think its better which I doubt. Lastly, There are millions of immigrants who are giving tons of money to Canada, Canada doesnt need a super entitled person. Bye!

 

[jaywethenorth_mapleleaf]

Hi everyone. After IRCC announced that the pool will remain locked, there's quite a few angry people. Getting together launching another e-petition this week (it will probably have minimal impact but at least the Government will know that there are people disappointed in the process).

A National News Publisher (one of the biggest in Canada) are going to run story with people who feel the closure of the pool is unfair. If you're willing to go on the record please reach out to me and I can put you in touch with the journalist.

Count me in for petition or roadshow or news channel / media interview, I’m frustrated since last five years they keep sending ITA from remaining of sponsors in the pool since 2020 and not opening pool anymore for new sponsors for their parents which is completely injustices for those sponsor waiting for their parent to sponsor under PGP. We all are paying hefty tax to government of Canada, everyone should deserve fairness for their parent to sponsor under PGP.

my contact number +1 6473024277
my email jay.patel7it@gmail.com

Jay

 

[canuck78]

Count me in for petition or roadshow or news channel / media interview, I’m frustrated since last five years they keep sending ITA from remaining of sponsors in the pool since 2020 and not opening pool anymore for new sponsors for their parents which is completely injustices for those sponsor waiting for their parent to sponsor under PGP. We all are paying hefty tax to government of Canada, everyone should deserve fairness for their parent to sponsor under PGP.

my contact number +1 6473024277
my email jay.patel7it@gmail.com

Jay

That is being done to attempt to prioritize people who have qualified the longest. Unless you are personally paying millions of dollars in taxes then paying taxes cover the costs of your own family not your parents. Canada has an ageing population and a healthcare crisis and the government needs to clarify that parent sponsorship is not guaranteed and certainly not guaranteed within a certain timeframe.

 

[Copingwithlife]

Count me in for petition or roadshow or news channel / media interview, I’m frustrated since last five years they keep sending ITA from remaining of sponsors in the pool since 2020 and not opening pool anymore for new sponsors for their parents which is completely injustices for those sponsor waiting for their parent to sponsor under PGP. We all are paying hefty tax to government of Canada, everyone should deserve fairness for their parent to sponsor under PGP.

my contact number +1 6473024277
my email jay.patel7it@gmail.com

Jay

YOU are PAYING your taxes for YOURSELF

Has NOTHING to do with your parents getting sponsored

If taxes had anything to do with it . There wouldn’t be a PGP since parents grandparents have paid squat in taxes , which support the services they will get access to.
So they are getting access to services for free

Tell yah . When my liberal candidate comes knockin for my vote I’ll be tearing strips off him for this ridiculous program
Amongst other reasons

Btw I’ve been paying taxes for 40 years and have got squat from this car wreck of a Government. Haven’t the slightest clue why people continue to kick the dead horse on paying taxes in this bloody country. You ain’t special

Here’s one . My nephew who is a teenager, born here can’t get a friggin part time job in this country. Why would that be ?