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canuck78

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issteven said:
I would prefer a two-tiered system: with healthcare and without healthcare. people can choose to go for which stream based on their needs so that we are not stuck on a single bridge. for myself, for example, my parents just need PR to live a few months a year close to me and eventually become CA citizens, our home country has a much better healthcare system, so they can just go back to use healthcare over there when needed.
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Then why don’t they just visit if they want to use the healthcare system in their home country? If they want to use that healthcare system they will need to remain in their home country as they get older when your use of the healthcare system increases. A two tiered system like Australia would require sponsored parents to pay for private health insurance. They would still have to pay a large annual fee (could be quarterly or bi-annual). A 2 tiered system would not allow them to pay for care out of pocket when needed.
 
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canuck78

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nayr69sg said:
Here's somewhat of a summary of the different political parties' stance on immigration. I had to edit the article (only included the Federal Cons and NDP stuff) as the forum only allows posts up to 10000 characters. This summary is written by the same people who own this forum.

Only the Federal Cons and the Federal NDP are highlighted when it comes to the PGP.

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https://www.cicnews.com/2021/08/election-2021-what-canadas-parties-say-about-immigration-0818986.html#gs.b1kfp3

Election 2021: What Canada’s parties say about immigrationA look at the immigration platforms of some of Canada's major federal parties.

All of Canada’s major parties are rooting for immigrants in the 2021 election campaign.

However, there remain unresolved issues in the immigration system. Namely, the backlog in application processing, outdated technology, and no one quite knows what to do with the Parents and Grandparents Program (PGP).

These are some of the issues that the parties have touched on so far. While there are more parties than the ones listed here, we have condensed the immigration platforms of the four most popular parties in Canada.


Conservative Party
The Conservatives are politically centre-right. Currently, they are the official opposition, meaning they hold the second-most seats in the House of Commons. It is the only party other than the Liberals to ever hold office at the federal level. The party leader is Erin O’Toole, who has won elections in immigrant-rich ridings in the past.

In the 2021 election platform, the Conservatives call for an immigration system that welcomes international talent, offers refuge to human rights defenders and those who are fleeing persecution, and reunites families.


They want to allow applicants to pay a fee to have their processing expedited. The revenues from these fees will go toward hiring additional staff to address administrative backlogs. They also want to speed up application processing by reducing red tape, streamlining applications, and using resources to their full potential.

The Conservatives also want a more fair immigration system. Not only do they want to move operations online, they also want to record all interactions between immigration officers and applicants. They say this would be “to help ensure oversight, fairness, and
accountability” in the immigration system.

Also, they want to increase cultural awareness training and match applicants with immigration officers who best understand the cultural context of the applicant. They also want to allow applicants to correct mistakes on their application within a certain amount of time after submitting.

As they had in their previous campaign, the Conservatives want to improve credential recognition. O’Toole’s campaign is promising to immediately launch a Credential Recognition Task Force to study possible solutions.

The Conservatives would scrap the lottery system for the Parents and Grandparents Program (PGP), and replace it with a first-come, first-served model. They envision a weighted system where applicants would be prioritized if they are providing child care or family support, as well as their language proficiency. They would also invest in more resources to process applications more quickly.

Conservatives would allow foreign family members of Canadians to live in Canada for up to five years without permanent status. Family members would be able to renew their stay for additional time as long as they purchase health insurance.


New Democratic Party
The New Democratic Party (NDP) is considered left-wing on the political spectrum. Canada has never had an NDP government at the federal level. Multiple polls have found the party’s leader, Jagmeet Singh, to be the most popular candidate in this election campaign.

The NDP’s 2021 platform promises to end the caps on the Parents and Grandparents Program (PGP) and address the backlogs. They also say they will work with the provinces to improve settlement services and foreign credential recognition.

They vow to take on unscrupulous immigration consultants and ensure the industry is regulated by the government. They would also provide status to caregivers and their families.


For refugees, the NDPs want to get rid of the backlog of asylum seekers, though their platform does not say how.

They would also prioritize pay equity to end wage discrimination based on gender, which affects immigrant women. To do this, they would require employers to be transparent about pay and immediately implement pro-active pay equity legislation.
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Would always take campaign promises with a grain of salt. Would vote expecting that a large portion of promises won’t actually happen.

Current Conservatives, especially O’Toole, would be considered right not centre-right. Although there are promises to expedite applications, there is also promises to balance budgets and cut costs so that doesn’t reconcile with hiring more people. In general when previous conservative governments have been elected we have had hiring freezes if not lay-offs throughout the public service. Just look at Alberta for examples of typical conservative governments.

The NDP doesn’t have any fiscal plans to cover all their very expenses promises from pharmacare, to free dental care, affordable housing, etc. Lots of talk in the debate about providing a better quality of life for current senior population. Higher pension benefits, more LTC spaces, more Community support to keep you in you home if you want and no wait times if you want to get into LTC. These promises will be very expensive to keep for current seniors. It will be impossible to absorb all parents and grandparents who would want to get PR. Until the NDP has at least some sort of plan about how they will pay for all their big promises you have to view these promises with some healthy skepticism.
 
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DarKW

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csvinayak said:
Just curious where in the website is mentioned the PGP draw starts tomorrow
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Here
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2021/07/ircc-to-accept-a-record-number-of-applications-for-the-2021-parents-and-grandparents-program.html

"Using the same random selection process as used in previous years, IRCC will send invitations to potential sponsors who have already submitted an interest to sponsor form in 2020. This will give additional interested sponsors the opportunity to bring their parents and grandparents to Canada. Invitations to apply will be sent over the course of 2 weeks, starting the week of September 20, 2021."
 
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issteven

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  • Invitations will be sent over the course of 2 weeks, starting the week of September 20, 2021. Those who are invited to apply will have 60 days to submit the application.
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Do these 60 days include ALL the materials from parents' home country (such as their birth certificates)?
 
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PP2014

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Any idea what time they will start sending invitations tomorrow? No social media update at any of IRCC page as of yet!
 
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kj107

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Did anyone get an invitation yet? I wish they had a clear cut instruction on when they are going to send out emails
 
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YVR123

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issteven said:
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  • Invitations will be sent over the course of 2 weeks, starting the week of September 20, 2021. Those who are invited to apply will have 60 days to submit the application.
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Do these 60 days include ALL the materials from parents' home country (such as their birth certificates)?
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Yes. You should get ready for things like birth certificates, marriage certificate and other documents. Then if you are chosen, you can arrange to make certified copies, translation...etc (according to country specific instruction)
 
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