Personal activities question...

[Shannon141]

So I’ve filled out my “personal activities” section. As you know, I can’t leave a gap. For certain periods of time, I was travelling in the USA, so I put Unemployed>Travelling>USA and then for the location I put USA and the state I was visiting. I never stayed longer than 5 months.
However, after submitting that they have requested a police certificate from the USA. I’m not sure whether to keep my location as England for those time periods, as I never lived in the USA, I was purely a tourist. This way it doesn’t request an additional police certificate.
My travels are obviously documented in the travel section.

What do you think? I don’t want to accidentally give the impression I lived there.

 

[21Goose]

No, it's not about you living there as a resident/citizen/worker. You have spent enough time in the US (as a tourist) to trigger the request for a PCC.

You will have to get the FBI PCC - changing the location is misrepresentation. It's not that hard to get so why worry?

 

[Shannon141]

No, it's not about you living there as a resident/citizen/worker. You have spent enough time in the US (as a tourist) to trigger the request for a PCC.

You will have to get the FBI PCC - changing the location is misrepresentation. It's not that hard to get so why worry?

It’s not a problem to get it, I’m just concerned about putting the wrong thing.
This thread seems to think differently: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/personal-activities-vs-travel-history.468139/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

 

[21Goose]

Think of it like this - IRCC wants to see a complete record of your activities.

So, let's say in 2017 you quit your job to travel for six months (Jan - May) and then came back to England and started worked again (June onwards). You could of course simply say you were Unemployed, with your location in England for six months and put all your travels in your travel history. That should be fine. Or you can say you were traveling and put the location as the US. But don't say you were traveling and put the location as England - that sounds oddly inconsistent for the Personal history section.

On the other hand, let's say you were working all through 2017 with Natwest, but you took the occasional holiday to Europe, the US, and Australia. You may have been gone for two months through the year, but you were constantly employed. This kind of travel doesn't need to be included in your personal history - but of course it will be included in your travel history. Your Personal history will simply state that you were working, with your location as England.

All this is moot though if the purpose of your doing this is to avoid getting a PCC. You will be asked for a PCC irrespective of whether you put everything only in travel, or you add it to personal history. The fact that you traveled to the US for nearly six months is enough for them to ask, and you have to put your trips in your travel history.

 

[Shannon141]

Think of it like this - IRCC wants to see a complete record of your activities.

So, let's say in 2017 you quit your job to travel for six months (Jan - May) and then came back to England and started worked again (June onwards). You could of course simply say you were Unemployed, with your location in England for six months and put all your travels in your travel history. That should be fine. Or you can say you were traveling and put the location as the US. But don't say you were traveling and put the location as England - that sounds oddly inconsistent for the Personal history section.

On the other hand, let's say you were working all through 2017 with Natwest, but you took the occasional holiday to Europe, the US, and Australia. You may have been gone for two months through the year, but you were constantly employed. This kind of travel doesn't need to be included in your personal history - but of course it will be included in your travel history. Your Personal history will simply state that you were working, with your location as England.

All this is moot though if the purpose of your doing this is to avoid getting a PCC. You will be asked for a PCC irrespective of whether you put everything only in travel, or you add it to personal history. The fact that you traveled to the US for nearly six months is enough for them to ask, and you have to put your trips in your travel history.

I don’t care whether I have to get an additional police check or not, I just don’t want to fill it out incorrectly.
And you are mistaken, as when I put USA as a location in my personal history it requests a USA police check. When I remove it and just have it in the travel history it does not. So obviously it makes a difference.

 

[a16107]

I don’t care whether I have to get an additional police check or not, I just don’t want to fill it out incorrectly.
And you are mistaken, as when I put USA as a location in my personal history it requests a USA police check. When I remove it and just have it in the travel history it does not. So obviously it makes a difference.

Would you mind to show your personal activity for us to review? it will be easier and accurate for us.

They calculate 6 months by combining all your US trips in 10 years, like 3-4 days per trip and all together it becomes 6 months?

 

[21Goose]

I don’t care whether I have to get an additional police check or not, I just don’t want to fill it out incorrectly.
And you are mistaken, as when I put USA as a location in my personal history it requests a USA police check. When I remove it and just have it in the travel history it does not. So obviously it makes a difference.

Yeah, I could be wrong. However, it's also possible that you will be asked for a PCC later based on your travel history.

Maybe someone else can help you as well.

 

[Shannon141]

Would you mind to show your personal activity for us to review? it will be easier and accurate for us.

They calculate 6 months by combining all your US trips in 10 years, like 3-4 days per trip and all together it becomes 6 months?

Of course. I’ve definitely spent over six months in the USA in the past 10 years, but that’s listed in my travel history and doesn’t flag up for a USA PC.

Ok;
09/2011- 06/2014 - Education
06/2014-09/2014- Employment
09/2014-08/2015- Education
08/2015- 12/2015- Unemployed, England
12/2015-05/2016 - Unemployed, USA (travelling period).
06/2016- 09/2016- Employment
09/2016- 11/2016- Unemployed, USA (travelling)
Then after that it’s all employment in Canada on a WH visa.

 

[Shannon141]

Yeah, I could be wrong. However, it's also possible that you will be asked for a PCC later based on your travel history.

Maybe someone else can help you as well.

Yes thank you for your replies though. It’s a bit of a mystery. I mean what do you even put in “Name of organisation” when you’re unemployed? I’ve just put none.

I think I may have cracked it. I originally had from August 2015- May 2016 as unemployed, location USA- as that’s where I was the most. However I’ve just split it and done Aug- Dec Unemployed UK, and Dec-May unemployed USA and it isn’t requesting the USA PC.
I’ve already paid for it though so I may as well get it just in case.

 

[Shannon141]

Would you mind to show your personal activity for us to review? it will be easier and accurate for us.

They calculate 6 months by combining all your US trips in 10 years, like 3-4 days per trip and all together it becomes 6 months?

I think I may have cracked it. I originally had from August 2015- May 2016 as unemployed, location USA- as that’s where I was the most. However I’ve just split it and done Aug- Dec Unemployed UK, and Dec-May unemployed USA and it isn’t requesting the USA PC.
I’ve already paid for it though so I may as well get it just in case.

 

[a16107]

I think I may have cracked it. I originally had from August 2015- May 2016 as unemployed, location USA- as that’s where I was the most. However I’ve just split it and done Aug- Dec Unemployed UK, and Dec-May unemployed USA and it isn’t requesting the USA PC.
I’ve already paid for it though so I may as well get it just in case.

Yes, you need to prepare the USA PC even it is mainly for travelling. If you stay in a country for more than 6 months combined (no matter what purpose), they will ask for it.

Maybe there is a bug in system but CIC can ask for it later.

 

[21Goose]

Yeah good to be prepared with the PCC. There are many cases of people being asked for a PCC even if they only stayed 3-4 months in a country. The rules are six months, but IRCC can always ask for one if they like.

This way, you won’t be scrambling in case you get a sudden request.