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People under Security Screening - What is your background?

battylife

Star Member
Apr 16, 2023
76
30
London, England
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
RROC
App. Filed.......
15-01-2023
Passport Req..
28-08-2024
I'll share first.

I'm a Chinese national. I spent both my undergraduate and graduate years in the US. I worked for 2 years for an American institution on matters concerning AI and biomedical drug discovery, and then 1 year at a Chinese no-name startup. I received AOR on 01/16/2023 via the FSW route, and screening began on 05/10/2023 according to CBSA and CSIS notes.

Historically, people of my background were very rarely sent to screening. IIRC starting 2017, applicants educated by certain Chinese schools with links to the military were sent to SS en masse. But it did not take until late 2022 for most Chinese applicants with a STEM background to be sent to screening.

I made this post to assess if my hunch about recent changes are roughly correct: MENA applicants (especially Iranian) are still being sent to SS at a high rate, while SS rates for Chinese applicants have recently exponentially exploded. If so, then backlogs at CSIS and CBSA are going to increase, making mandamus more worthwhile. Historically, mandamus for applicants under SS have mixed results, because CSIS is apparently exempt from being put on the defendant's bench; one had to rely on IRCC to pressure them into action.
 

xueshen0607

Hero Member
Dec 24, 2020
200
64
Same Chinese here. Both of my husband and myself are completely finance background (banking, internal control consulting, financing). We were sent to SS on June 16.
Totally furious and confused at IRCC now. Hope our SS won’t take too long.
 

apollonoob

Star Member
Nov 16, 2020
184
59
Currently Chinese is one of redflag for background check. Add my WeChat:wenguozexi8877, I can invite you to a background check group, if you want
 

qdee

Star Member
Mar 24, 2023
148
75
Category........
PNP
AOR Received.
28-04-2023
Hi, how did you know that most Chinese applicants with STEM backgrounds are sent through snail security screening?
 

apollonoob

Star Member
Nov 16, 2020
184
59
Hi, how did you know that most Chinese applicants with STEM backgrounds are sent through snail security screening?
You may check the cases in myimmigrationtracker.com. most of cases which are significantly slower than others are Chinese applicants.
 

battylife

Star Member
Apr 16, 2023
76
30
London, England
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
RROC
App. Filed.......
15-01-2023
Passport Req..
28-08-2024
Question: Is there some way for me to wait and work in Canada on an open ended permit while waiting for SS to clear? I am currently outside of Canada. To me, the whole point of applying for EE is to avoid having to apply for an LMIA and a closed ended work permit.
 

qdee

Star Member
Mar 24, 2023
148
75
Category........
PNP
AOR Received.
28-04-2023
Same Chinese here. Both of my husband and myself are completely finance background (banking, internal control consulting, financing). We were sent to SS on June 16.
Totally furious and confused at IRCC now. Hope our SS won’t take too long.
Hi, how did you know the date your security screening started? Was it from GCMS/CBSA notes or were there updates on your tracker?
 

xueshen0607

Hero Member
Dec 24, 2020
200
64
Hi, how did you know the date your security screening started? Was it from GCMS/CBSA notes or were there updates on your tracker?
Yeah in Tracker there is a record saying "Background verification status has been updated to In progress". And click F12 I can see a history "Security" with Status "17", which means security is in progress.
 
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qdee

Star Member
Mar 24, 2023
148
75
Category........
PNP
AOR Received.
28-04-2023
Yeah in Tracker there is a record saying "Background verification status has been updated to In progress". And click F12 I can see a history "Security" with Status "17", which means security is in progress.
Thanks for this info! I guess I'm in the security pit as well :D
 

theodoreyang

Full Member
Mar 5, 2018
37
10
Federal stage from quebec
Medical passed on March and no news since then.
GCMS note shows "SECURITY: 1" but no details.
 

Leo0215

Member
Feb 16, 2023
14
1
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
CIO
AOR Received.
2023-04-24
Federal stage from quebec
Medical passed on March and no news since then.
GCMS note shows "SECURITY: 1" but no details.
Hi, I got same security = 1 on GCMS note. no news since June.
 

batman12345

Star Member
Jun 24, 2018
110
12
I'll share first.

I'm a Chinese national. I spent both my undergraduate and graduate years in the US. I worked for 2 years for an American institution on matters concerning AI and biomedical drug discovery, and then 1 year at a Chinese no-name startup. I received AOR on 01/16/2023 via the FSW route, and screening began on 05/10/2023 according to CBSA and CSIS notes.

Historically, people of my background were very rarely sent to screening. IIRC starting 2017, applicants educated by certain Chinese schools with links to the military were sent to SS en masse. But it did not take until late 2022 for most Chinese applicants with a STEM background to be sent to screening.

I made this post to assess if my hunch about recent changes are roughly correct: MENA applicants (especially Iranian) are still being sent to SS at a high rate, while SS rates for Chinese applicants have recently exponentially exploded. If so, then backlogs at CSIS and CBSA are going to increase, making mandamus more worthwhile. Historically, mandamus for applicants under SS have mixed results, because CSIS is apparently exempt from being put on the defendant's bench; one had to rely on IRCC to pressure them into action.
How do you know Iranian applicants being sent to SS at a high rate?
 

garniita

Newbie
Nov 25, 2023
2
0
I'll share first.

I'm a Chinese national. I spent both my undergraduate and graduate years in the US. I worked for 2 years for an American institution on matters concerning AI and biomedical drug discovery, and then 1 year at a Chinese no-name startup. I received AOR on 01/16/2023 via the FSW route, and screening began on 05/10/2023 according to CBSA and CSIS notes.

Historically, people of my background were very rarely sent to screening. IIRC starting 2017, applicants educated by certain Chinese schools with links to the military were sent to SS en masse. But it did not take until late 2022 for most Chinese applicants with a STEM background to be sent to screening.

I made this post to assess if my hunch about recent changes are roughly correct: MENA applicants (especially Iranian) are still being sent to SS at a high rate, while SS rates for Chinese applicants have recently exponentially exploded. If so, then backlogs at CSIS and CBSA are going to increase, making mandamus more worthwhile. Historically, mandamus for applicants under SS have mixed results, because CSIS is apparently exempt from being put on the defendant's bench; one had to rely on IRCC to pressure them into action.
hi have you gotten your Ecopr?
 

richardsmile1

Full Member
Sep 16, 2022
20
0
Yeah in Tracker there is a record saying "Background verification status has been updated to In progress". And click F12 I can see a history "Security" with Status "17", which means security is in progress.
You need to order GCMS notes to know when you were sent for security screening because F12 shows the date created or loaded which sometimes has time gap.
 

xueshen0607

Hero Member
Dec 24, 2020
200
64
You need to order GCMS notes to know when you were sent for security screening because F12 shows the date created or loaded which sometimes has time gap.
no gap in my case. Anyways if you are sent for security screening, there is not much really meaningful you can do except waiting.