Paying Fees for outland conjugal partner sponsorship

[pasciaoctavia]

Hey everyone,

The final stage before I send my application is to pay the application fees. On the online payment site, I have to select which fees I am to pay for. I know that I have to pay $75 for the sponsor fee and $475 for the principal applicant fee before I submit my application but do I pay the $490 fee for the right of permanent residence before as well or do I wait to hear if I have received permanent residence and then pay the fee?

Thanks in advance!

 

[rhcohen2014]

it's your choice. you can pay it upfront, or wait until it's requested. CIC will not issue an approval without the fee being paid.

for some visa offices not paying upfront *may* delay the approval though this isn't necessarily true for all. i waited until it was requested, and received my approval paper less than 2 weeks later.

 

[keesio]

To the OP: fyi - conjugal is always viewed with some suspicion by CIC. What are the barriers for marriage / common-law that require you to apply as conjugal?

 

[rhcohen2014]

To the OP: fyi - conjugal is always viewed with some suspicion by CIC. What are the barriers for marriage / common-law that require you to apply as conjugal?

looking at previous posts, there aren't any, as they have traveled/lived together and the original poster is currently IN canada on an approved work permit. it doesn't seem like there is a good chance of getting a conjugal app approved in this case, unfortunately..

 

[pasciaoctavia]

It's a confusing situation but essentially we decided to risk a conjugal application as we don't qualify for a common-law application. My partner was posted to work in Uganda last year and I wasn't able to go with him (the village he lived in was very religious and wouldn't have accepted us living together unmarried and there were no work opportunities for me to support myself). If they read our application they'll see that that's the only thing keeping us from being common-law, whether or not it's a serious enough reason for us to have been kept apart.

If they reject my application then I guess we'll get married to be able to apply again but if they don't want people marrying for immigration reasons they should be more understanding of different situations and see that our relationship is real without us being married or qualifying for common-law.

I'm ranting now, but I feel like all I ever do is try and justify my situation to immigration officials!

 

[scylla]

It's a confusing situation but essentially we decided to risk a conjugal application as we don't qualify for a common-law application. My partner was posted to work in Uganda last year and I wasn't able to go with him (the village he lived in was very religious and wouldn't have accepted us living together unmarried and there were no work opportunities for me to support myself). If they read our application they'll see that that's the only thing keeping us from being common-law, whether or not it's a serious enough reason for us to have been kept apart.

If they reject my application then I guess we'll get married to be able to apply again but if they don't want people marrying for immigration reasons they should be more understanding of different situations and see that our relationship is real without us being married or qualifying for common-law.

I'm ranting now, but I feel like all I ever do is try and justify my situation to immigration officials!

I honestly wouldn't apply until you are either married or common law. The process will end up being very long and drawn out only to end in refusal - and you'll end up even more frustrated than you are now. To be approved under conjugal it's critical you demonstrate there are real immigration barriers preventing you from achieving one of these statuses. The job in Uganda likely won't be seen as a real immigration barrier (but a life choice to take a job there). And even if that's accepted, there's nothing stopping you from getting married. Proving conjugal is not about just proving your relationship is real. You must also prove immigration barriers to marriage and common law. Anyway - obviously your choice. Good luck regardless...

 

[Rob_TO]

It's a confusing situation but essentially we decided to risk a conjugal application as we don't qualify for a common-law application. My partner was posted to work in Uganda last year and I wasn't able to go with him (the village he lived in was very religious and wouldn't have accepted us living together unmarried and there were no work opportunities for me to support myself). If they read our application they'll see that that's the only thing keeping us from being common-law, whether or not it's a serious enough reason for us to have been kept apart.

If they reject my application then I guess we'll get married to be able to apply again but if they don't want people marrying for immigration reasons they should be more understanding of different situations and see that our relationship is real without us being married or qualifying for common-law.

I'm ranting now, but I feel like all I ever do is try and justify my situation to immigration officials!

You should really just get married even if it's only a small courtroom wedding somewhere with no family. Then you should have an incredibly easy time to getting PR vs a conjugal application. If you apply for PR as married couple, OUTLAND through London visa office, you are looking at around 8-10 months in total to get your full PR status, with no complications if you submit a complete app.

If you continue with the conjugal app, you are looking at a long processing time and most likely a rejection at the end. Yes some conjugal apps have been approved in similar cases to yours, but they are few and far between and rely mainly on being extremely lucky in getting a sympathetic visa officer who is willing to approve you. The chances are not good. You should just go for the sure thing.

 

[missmatalini]

You should really just get married even if it's only a small courtroom wedding somewhere with no family. Then you should have an incredibly easy time to getting PR vs a conjugal application. If you apply for PR as married couple, OUTLAND through London visa office, you are looking at around 8-10 months in total to get your full PR status, with no complications if you submit a complete app.

If you continue with the conjugal app, you are looking at a long processing time and most likely a rejection at the end. Yes some conjugal apps have been approved in similar cases to yours, but they are few and far between and rely mainly on being extremely lucky in getting a sympathetic visa officer who is willing to approve you. The chances are not good. You should just go for the sure thing.

Not to mention you risk losing all the money you put into it and then have to do it all over again after you're married. Why take the risk?