Paying back flight ticket.

[dashR]

My girl friend left on a ticket paid by the government through a exclusion order. Her lawyer suggested paying the money back when she returns. Where a bouts do i do that? Any information would be useful. Thanks.

 

[scylla]

She will need an ARC to return to Canada. As part of the ARC process, she will be asked to repay the cost of the flight.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/arc.asp

 

[dashR]

her exclusion order has passed. she doesn't need a arc. she just wants to pay back the money.

2. Exclusion Order (form number IMM 1214B)

a) If you were issued an Exclusion Order and

12 months have passed since you left Canada and
you have a Certificate of Departure (IMM 0056B) showing the date you left Canada

you do not need an ARC. You may return to Canada subject to normal examination at the port of entry.

 

[zardoz]

Your lawyer is correct. See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf10-eng.pdf Section 35.3
Not sure what the mechanism is yet for repayment. Still searching for you.

 

[zardoz]

Hmm... It's like finding a needle in a haystack..
Firstly, does her certificate of departure say anything about removal costs?
Secondly, it seems that applying for an ARC or TRV is the only way to trigger the repayment of removal costs process.
It's probably a good idea for her to contact her local visa office and ask them.

 

[dashR]

Hmm... It's like finding a needle in a haystack..
Firstly, does her certificate of departure say anything about removal costs?
Secondly, it seems that applying for an ARC or TRV is the only way to trigger the repayment of removal costs process.
It's probably a good idea for her to contact her local visa office and ask them.

Well I called a CBSA number listed in her documents in her case. The guy that answered didn't know where to pay either, he said i can try calling immigration help desk. Nothing was found in either of the CBSA or Immigration hotlines. Everything was automated and nothing was on the list for the question I wanted to have answered. The cost is 1500$ consistent with what the lawyer said and the document you showed me. I needed direct numbers to CBSA, but seems like none of CBSA office numbers are even listed online anymore. Will probably have to go into the main CBSA office and talk to someone directly.

Thanks for your help.

 

[PMM]

Hi

Hmm... It's like finding a needle in a haystack..
Firstly, does her certificate of departure say anything about removal costs?
Secondly, it seems that applying for an ARC or TRV is the only way to trigger the repayment of removal costs process.
It's probably a good idea for her to contact her local visa office and ask them.

Here is what the ENF 10 manual states:

35.2. Repayment of removal costs for exclusion orders and the requirement of Authorization to
Return to Canada

Persons who were removed under an exclusion order at the CBSA’s expense and are returning
prior to the allowed period of time as prescribed in R225(1) or R225(3) must first obtain an
Authorization to Return to Canada [IMM 1203B] from an officer in accordance with A52(1) (see IR
5 for the applicable cost-recovery fee). Second, they must repay the prescribed costs of their
removal as per R243(a) or R243(b).

35.3. Repayment of removal costs for exclusion orders that no longer require Authorization to
Return to Canada
Persons who were removed under an exclusion order at the CBSA’s expense and are returning
to Canada after the expiry of the prescribed period of time under R225(1) or (3) do not require the
Authorization to Return to Canada [IMM 1203B] but must repay the prescribed costs of their
removal pursuant to R243(a) or R243(b).

 

[zardoz]

Your lawyer is correct. See http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf10-eng.pdf Section 35.3
Not sure what the mechanism is yet for repayment. Still searching for you.

Ahem.... ;D

 

[Leon]

See also http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/ir/ir05-eng.pdf section 7.25, page 35

7.25. Payment of removal costs – R243

Note: This is an administrative penalty not a cost recovery fee; as such, it is not governed by the Cost
Recovery and Charging Policy of the Treasury Board Secretariat. It is included here because of its
relationship to the Authorization to Return to Canada [see section 7.20 above].

These fees apply only in situations where the relevant costs have not been recovered from a
transportation company.

Intent of fee

Formerly, this fee applied only to persons who were initially issued a departure order, ignored the
order and were then deported at departmental expense. This regulation was originally intended to
add a further consequence for clients who ignored a departure order.

Under the IRPA, the applicability of this fee has been widened to include all clients who were
removed at Her Majesty’s expense, not just those who were deported. In R223, removal orders
are defined to include, departure orders, exclusion orders and deportation orders.

Deportees

Under the IRPA, persons who are deported at departmental expense must satisfy two
requirements before being allowed to return to Canada. First, they must obtain authorization to do
so through an officer or by other prescribed circumstances as per R226(1) and A52(1); and
second, they must pay the cost (if any) of their removal as per R243, if they have not been
recovered from the transportation company.

Other removals

Clients who are the subject of exclusion or departure orders may seek to return to Canada after
the period specified in the Regulations, without the need to obtain the authorization of an officer.
However, as with deportees, these clients are now required to pay the cost of their removal as
per R243, if they were removed at Her Majesty’s expense.

Once the officer who is processing the request for authorization to return to Canada (IMM 1203B)
has determined that authorization will be granted, the office in Canada where the removal order
originated will inform the officer whether payment is applicable. Collection of this fee will occur
prior to the authorization to return to Canada being granted.

The applicable fees are per R243.

Processing and collection of fee

Payment of removal costs:

• USA/Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon $750
• Other destinations $1,500

A receipt shall be issued each time a payment of removal expenses is received.

If an individual advises that they are unable or unwilling to pay the fee immediately, they should
be counselled to withdraw their request for authorization to return to Canada and return when
they have the ability and willingness to do so. If the individual refuses to withdraw their request,
the request will be refused for failure to pay removal costs as per A52(1).

Note: If a removal order for which there is no right of appeal has been enforced and is subsequently set
aside by a judicial review, the foreign national is entitled to return to Canada at the Minister’s
expense. [A52(2)]

Fee exemptions

No fee exemptions have been identified for this service

You can also find this fee on the fee list here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp under "other" but if you go to pay fees, you can not pick that fee from the list. If she wants to pay it, she should therefore contact the Canadian embassy where she is and ask for instructions.

 

[APrathap23]

She will need an ARC to return to Canada. As part of the ARC process, she will be asked to repay the cost of the flight.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/inadmissibility/arc.asp

 

[APrathap23]

I actually just recieved an email asking to pay for my removal costs but the thing is I had paid for my own ticket and left as soon as I got the exclusion order. I informed the officers and they gave me a certificate of departure too. Please help me out. The request came from NDVO new dlwhi visa office.

 

[canuck78]

I actually just recieved an email asking to pay for my removal costs but the thing is I had paid for my own ticket and left as soon as I got the exclusion order. I informed the officers and they gave me a certificate of departure too. Please help me out. The request came from NDVO new dlwhi visa office.

Are they asking you to pay for the flight or ARC?

 

[APrathap23]

They haven't specified what it is for, just asks for a reciept of 1500$ paid for removal expenses.
I got my own ticket and would I need to pay for an ARC if my exclusion order was served from november 2019 to November 2020?

 

[canuck78]

They haven't specified what it is for, just asks for a reciept of 1500$ paid for removal expenses.
I got my own ticket and would I need to pay for an ARC if my exclusion order was served from november 2019 to November 2020?

Are you applying for Pr as well? Have you paid fees associated with PR?

 

[APrathap23]

Yes, I am. Yeah I paid 500 for right to permanent resident fees and Spouse Sponsorship which was around 1135$. Does that sound right?