Paying back flight ticket.

[scylla]

I actually just recieved an email asking to pay for my removal costs but the thing is I had paid for my own ticket and left as soon as I got the exclusion order. I informed the officers and they gave me a certificate of departure too. Please help me out. The request came from NDVO new dlwhi visa office.

Provide NDVO with the evidence that you paid for the ticket with your own money.

 

[APrathap23]

Oh okay yeah I will be able to do that.

 

[Maria Erhan]

Hi everyone.
I need some advice on my repayment fee too. I am about to apply for ETA after 2 years of my deportation and according to the CBSA regulations I have to pay back the expenses they pay for me when I was deported. I am really concerned that my ETA will be refused because of this payment. Did anybody managed to pay the removal costs somehow or CBSA or some other organization are going to send the request to pay at some point? Thank you in advance!

 

[scylla]

Hi everyone.
I need some advice on my repayment fee too. I am about to apply for ETA after 2 years of my deportation and according to the CBSA regulations I have to pay back the expenses they pay for me when I was deported. I am really concerned that my ETA will be refused because of this payment. Did anybody managed to pay the removal costs somehow or CBSA or some other organization are going to send the request to pay at some point? Thank you in advance!

If you were deported, then you'll need to go through the ARC process. This means you'll need to pay an additional $400 fee, as well as the costs of the flight to remove you from Canada.

You need to follow the directions in the link below to apply for the ARC. If you just apply for the eTA, it will be refused since you are currently inadmissible to Canada.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/reasons/authorization-return-canada.html

If you are applying for a visa or permit to come to Canada you must include all of the required documents with your application, including:

• a Temporary Resident Visa application form, fully completed online and validated to create the barcode page.
• two passport size photographs taken within the last six months.
• a copy of your passport.
• a written letter (in English or French) explaining, in detail, the reasons you feel you should be allowed to return to Canada. The letter must be written in block letters in black ink or typed.
• the processing fee ($400 CAD). Pay your fees online (opens in a new tab).

Note: If you are from a visa-exempt country and require an ARC to re-enter Canada, you must submit these documents by mail to the visa office responsible for your region .

 

[Maria Erhan]

If you were deported, then you'll need to go through the ARC process. This means you'll need to pay an additional $400 fee, as well as the costs of the flight to remove you from Canada.

You need to follow the directions in the link below to apply for the ARC. If you just apply for the eTA, it will be refused since you are currently inadmissible to Canada.

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/inadmissibility/reasons/authorization-return-canada.html

If you are applying for a visa or permit to come to Canada you must include all of the required documents with your application, including:

• a Temporary Resident Visa application form, fully completed online and validated to create the barcode page.
• two passport size photographs taken within the last six months.
• a copy of your passport.
• a written letter (in English or French) explaining, in detail, the reasons you feel you should be allowed to return to Canada. The letter must be written in block letters in black ink or typed.
• the processing fee ($400 CAD). Pay your fees online (opens in a new tab).

Note: If you are from a visa-exempt country and require an ARC to re-enter Canada, you must submit these documents by mail to the visa office responsible for your region .

Hi, thank you for your interest in my issue.
I am form Visa-exempt country (Mexico) and I don't mind applying for ARC, however, I think I do not need one since 2 years pass from my deportation and I do have my Exclusion order with me. Do you think I have to apply for ARC only because of the removal fee repayment?

2. Exclusion Order (form number IMM 1214B)
a. If you were issued an Exclusion Order and

• 12 months have passed since you left Canada and
• you have a Certificate of Departure (IMM 0056B) showing the date you left Canada you do not need an ARC. You may return to Canada subject to normal examination at the port of entry.
  
  I also found this:
• 49.3 Repayment of removal costs for exclusion orders that no longer require Authorization to Return to Canada Persons who were removed under an exclusion order at the CBSA’s expense and are returning to Canada after the expiry of the prescribed period of time under R225(1) or (3) do not require the Authorization to Return to Canada [IMM 1203B] but must repay the prescribed costs of their removal pursuant to R243(a) or R243(b)
  Who is the pursuant?
  https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf10-eng.pdf
  
  
• Payment of removal costs
  243 Unless expenses incurred by Her Majesty in right of Canada have been recovered from a transporter, a foreign national who is removed from Canada at Her Majesty’s expense shall not return to Canada if the foreign national has not paid to Her Majesty the removal costs of
  
  • (a) $750 for removal to the United States or St. Pierre and Miquelon; and
  • (b) $1,500 for removal to any other country.
    https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-243.html
    
    
    Also, ETA should not be refused due to inadmissibility because I am not a criminal or been in a jail.
    • security reasons, including
      • espionage
      • subversion (attempts to overthrow a government, etc.)
      • violence or terrorism
      • membership in an organization involved in any of these
    • human or international rights violations, including
      • war crimes
      • crimes against humanity
      • being a senior official in a government engaged in gross human rights violations or subject to international sanctions
    • committing a crime, including driving while under the influence of drugs or alcoholFootnote1
    • organized crime, including membership in an organization that takes part in organized criminal activity, people smuggling or money laundering
    • medical reasons– this includes medical conditions that:
      • endanger public health
      • endanger public safety or
      • causes excessive demand on health or social services (some applicants are exempt)
    • financial reasons – if you’re unable or unwilling to support yourself and your family members
    • misrepresentation, which includes providing false information or withholding information directly related to decisions made under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA)
    • failure to comply with any provision of IRPAFootnote2 or
    • having an inadmissible family member.
      
  • Could be this the reason to be inadmissible?
    • financial reasons – if you’re unable or unwilling to support yourself and your family members
      
      Maybe I do not understand something, please advice.

 

[scylla]

Hi, thank you for your interest in my issue.
I am form Visa-exempt country (Mexico) and I don't mind applying for ARC, however, I think I do not need one since 2 years pass from my deportation and I do have my Exclusion order with me. Do you think I have to apply for ARC only because of the removal fee repayment?

2. Exclusion Order (form number IMM 1214B)
a. If you were issued an Exclusion Order and

• 12 months have passed since you left Canada and
• you have a Certificate of Departure (IMM 0056B) showing the date you left Canada you do not need an ARC. You may return to Canada subject to normal examination at the port of entry.
  
  I also found this:
• 49.3 Repayment of removal costs for exclusion orders that no longer require Authorization to Return to Canada Persons who were removed under an exclusion order at the CBSA’s expense and are returning to Canada after the expiry of the prescribed period of time under R225(1) or (3) do not require the Authorization to Return to Canada [IMM 1203B] but must repay the prescribed costs of their removal pursuant to R243(a) or R243(b)
  Who is the pursuant?
  https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/ircc/migration/ircc/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf10-eng.pdf
  
  
• Payment of removal costs
  243 Unless expenses incurred by Her Majesty in right of Canada have been recovered from a transporter, a foreign national who is removed from Canada at Her Majesty’s expense shall not return to Canada if the foreign national has not paid to Her Majesty the removal costs of
  • (a) $750 for removal to the United States or St. Pierre and Miquelon; and
  • (b) $1,500 for removal to any other country.
    https://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2002-227/section-243.html
    
    
    Also, ETA should not be refused due to inadmissibility because I am not a criminal or been in a jail.
    • security reasons, including
      • espionage
      • subversion (attempts to overthrow a government, etc.)
      • violence or terrorism
      • membership in an organization involved in any of these
    • human or international rights violations, including
      • war crimes
      • crimes against humanity
      • being a senior official in a government engaged in gross human rights violations or subject to international sanctions
    • committing a crime, including driving while under the influence of drugs or alcoholFootnote1
    • organized crime, including membership in an organization that takes part in organized criminal activity, people smuggling or money laundering
    • medical reasons– this includes medical conditions that:
      • endanger public health
      • endanger public safety or
      • causes excessive demand on health or social services (some applicants are exempt)
    • financial reasons – if you’re unable or unwilling to support yourself and your family members
    • misrepresentation, which includes providing false information or withholding information directly related to decisions made under the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA)
    • failure to comply with any provision of IRPAFootnote2 or
    • having an inadmissible family member.
  • Could be this the reason to be inadmissible?
    • financial reasons – if you’re unable or unwilling to support yourself and your family members
      
      Maybe I do not understand something, please advice.

Your original post said you were deported. An exclusion order is certainly different than a deportation.

What were the circumstances of your exclusion order? I assume you are 100% certain it was an exclusion order?

 

[Maria Erhan]

Ah, you are so right! My bad
I was retained by the police when they stopped my for speeding(did not receive any speeding ticket at the final), was arrested for a few days because was a holiday season any my procedure did not move.
I received a Exclusion Order(IMM 1214) removal and I do have Inland Enforcement officer confirmation of departure, notice of removal(BSF560), Unescorted removal.
Also, I did followed all the protocol procedure, left the country at the time and did not try to speculate the process.

 

[scylla]

Ah, you are so right! My bad
I was retained by the police when they stopped my for speeding(did not receive any speeding ticket at the final), was arrested for a few days because was a holiday season any my procedure did not move.
I received a Exclusion Order(IMM 1214) removal and I do have Inland Enforcement officer confirmation of departure, notice of removal(BSF560), Unescorted removal.
Also, I did followed all the protocol procedure, left the country at the time and did not try to speculate the process.

So that does simplify things and means that you don't have to go through the ARC process. I don't know about the costs of the flight. Most people with exclusion orders pay for their own flight home.

I would try to apply for the eTA and see what happens. I would expect that your eTA will take a few months to process due to the exclusion order. Based on experiences on this forum, non-standard eTAs are taking quite a while right now. Don't book any flights until the eTA is approved.

Good luck.

 

[Maria Erhan]

So that does simplify things and means that you don't have to go through the ARC process. I don't know about the costs of the flight. Most people with exclusion orders pay for their own flight home.

I would try to apply for the eTA and see what happens. I would expect that your eTA will take a few months to process due to the exclusion order. Based on experiences on this forum, non-standard eTAs are taking quite a while right now. Don't book any flights until the eTA is approved.

Good luck.

Thank you very much for your time trying to crack this issue. Have a good day!