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Parents & Grandparents Program(PGP) 2022

Naturgrl

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advise what? this is criteria, you're not meeting the income

GOD! I can't believe how many people got an invitation without even proper reading the requirements. I'm here waiting and checking my email every 5 minutes...Just ranting
Unfortunately that is why IRCC sends out 23K invitations and accept up to 15k…so many people are not even eligible and just submit an EOI because they think that the requirements will not apply to them.
 

jessiezhai

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They Have mentioned "Declaration of applicant" Should sign this , so yes always a Principal Applicant .

If you have dependent make sure you add dependent information as well ( For example if Father is PA then you add one more person "Mom" as dependent and later when all information of this forms are filled up at the end it will have Principal Applicant digital signature which is their name as per passport.
Thank you for the answer. I do have another dependent so I have this questions. Now I see.
 
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alexpolis007

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advise what? this is criteria, you're not meeting the income

GOD! I can't believe how many people got an invitation without even proper reading the requirements. I'm here waiting and checking my email every 5 minutes...Just ranting
i feel ya man.. 4 yrs and i did not get invite,, been trying for soooo long.. this year i thought smaller pool.. i might hit the lottery.. however not yet.. any idea they still sending invites ?
 
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jessiezhai

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I know many people may have asked but I still need to put here as this year everything online, the old guide may not be applicable.
I am a primary sponsor, co-signed with my husband for my parents, I have a younger sister, adult, working, divorced in home country will not come.
My questions:
1. 0008 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
2. 5406 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
3. 5669 form: Do I need add my sister?

If someone has submitted the application online and also confirmed please let me know. As some forms are used for both sponsoring SPOUSE and PGP purposes, they may be interpreted differently.
 

tam_ngo

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i feel ya man.. 4 yrs and i did not get invite,, been trying for soooo long.. this year i thought smaller pool.. i might hit the lottery.. however not yet.. any idea they still sending invites ?
Judging from the date CIC made announcement https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/sponsor-parents-grandparents/selected.html

I think we still have until Wednesday this week, but not 100% sure. Last year the draw closed 2 days before deadline if I remember correctly
 
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dpatel08

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I know many people may have asked but I still need to put here as this year everything online, the old guide may not be applicable.
I am a primary sponsor, co-signed with my husband for my parents, I have a younger sister, adult, working, divorced in home country will not come.
My questions:
1. 0008 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
2. 5406 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
3. 5669 form: Do I need add my sister?

If someone has submitted the application online and also confirmed please let me know. As some forms are used for both sponsoring SPOUSE and PGP purposes, they may be interpreted differently.
You do not need to add yourself and your sister if she is not dependent ( Check full definition of Dependent on website - if she is 22 year age or over then she is not dependent ) , Include only Principal applicant ( For example if father is principle applicate ) then add Mom as your dependent .
 
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canuck78

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I earned CAD 24,000 in 2019 and I am sponsoring my both parents so do I meet LICO requirement? I am confused because on website there are different information available. On Canada webpage it says
$40,444 - 2021$39,672-2020$50,414-2019

if this is criteria then I dont qualify based on 2019 tax requirements. please advise
Not only do you not qualify for 2019 you also didn’t qualify to apply in 2020 when you were required to qualify for 2017, 2018 and 2019. You shouldn’t be in the pool to begin with. You don’t qualify for many reasons.
 

yourfather

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Not only do you not qualify for 2019 you also didn’t qualify to apply in 2020 when you were required to qualify for 2017, 2018 and 2019. You shouldn’t be in the pool to begin with. You don’t qualify for many reasons.
I understand OP isn't eligible based on his income. But should a sponsor who entered the pool in 2020, received ITA in 2022 show tax statements for past 5 years?

Below is what I see on the CIC portal.

If invited to apply --> They you apply --> Provide 3 tax years statement before the date you apply (2019, 2020, 2021)

There is no where CIC asks for 2017 and 2018 tax statements, even if you entered the pool in 2020. If you got an ITA, then they assess the immediate 3 previous years tax statement. Isn't that right?



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If you’re invited to apply, you have to provide proof that you meet the income requirements for each of the 3 tax years before the date you apply.

We can’t assess whether you meet the income requirements until you apply (if you’re invited).

Note: For the 2022 process, we’ll assess sponsors on their income for tax years 2021, 2020 and 2019.

This table applies to you if you live in any province or territory except Quebec. If you live in Quebec, the Quebec ministry in charge of immigration will assess your income.

Income required for the 3 tax years right before the day you apply (sponsors applying in 2022)
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tam_ngo

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Nov 22, 2012
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I understand OP isn't eligible based on his income. But should a sponsor who entered the pool in 2020, received ITA in 2022 show tax statements for past 5 years?

Below is what I see on the CIC portal.

If invited to apply --> They you apply --> Provide 3 tax years statement before the date you apply (2019, 2020, 2021)

There is no where CIC asks for 2017 and 2018 tax statements, even if you entered the pool in 2020. If you got an ITA, then they assess the immediate 3 previous years tax statement. Isn't that right?



*********************************************************************************************************************************************************************
If you’re invited to apply, you have to provide proof that you meet the income requirements for each of the 3 tax years before the date you apply.

We can’t assess whether you meet the income requirements until you apply (if you’re invited).

Note: For the 2022 process, we’ll assess sponsors on their income for tax years 2021, 2020 and 2019.

This table applies to you if you live in any province or territory except Quebec. If you live in Quebec, the Quebec ministry in charge of immigration will assess your income.

Income required for the 3 tax years right before the day you apply (sponsors applying in 2022)
*********************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Yes, however when they opened the pool in 2020, they clearly stated at that time that if you get the invitation in 2020 you need to qualify incomes for 2018, 2019 and 2020. So technically if you already knew back in 2020 that you did not have enough income to sponsor in 2019, you shouldn't enter the pool.
 
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canuck78

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I understand OP isn't eligible based on his income. But should a sponsor who entered the pool in 2020, received ITA in 2022 show tax statements for past 5 years?

Below is what I see on the CIC portal.

If invited to apply --> They you apply --> Provide 3 tax years statement before the date you apply (2019, 2020, 2021)

There is no where CIC asks for 2017 and 2018 tax statements, even if you entered the pool in 2020. If you got an ITA, then they assess the immediate 3 previous years tax statement. Isn't that right?



*********************************************************************************************************************************************************************
If you’re invited to apply, you have to provide proof that you meet the income requirements for each of the 3 tax years before the date you apply.

We can’t assess whether you meet the income requirements until you apply (if you’re invited).

Note: For the 2022 process, we’ll assess sponsors on their income for tax years 2021, 2020 and 2019.

This table applies to you if you live in any province or territory except Quebec. If you live in Quebec, the Quebec ministry in charge of immigration will assess your income.

Income required for the 3 tax years right before the day you apply (sponsors applying in 2022)
*********************************************************************************************************************************************************************
You would have never qualified to be in the draw for 2020, 2021 or 2022 if you had not met LICO for 2017, 2018 or 2019. So yes if you are in the 2022 draw you needed to meet LICO for 2017, 2018 and 2019. Will IRCC enforce the rule for 2O17, 2018 or 2019.? Unsure, but they could.
 

jas_to_canada

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You would have never qualified to be in the draw for 2020, 2021 or 2022 if you had not met LICO for 2017, 2018 or 2019. So yes if you are in the 2022 draw you needed to meet LICO for 2017, 2018 and 2019. Will IRCC enforce the rule for 2O17, 2018 or 2019.? Unsure, but they could.
That is a very valid and good thought if the intent was in 2020 and the application submission was in 2020 as well, though I am sure that is unlikely.

In this excerpt from Guide 5722, try the emphasis on the application submission date (which will be in 2022, the intent was in 2020).

Income requirement for Parent and Grandparent Sponsorship who apply in 2022
Note: This table applies to all sponsors who submit an application on or after January 1, 2022 up to December 31, 2022. Since many sponsors may have been affected financially by the COVID-19 pandemic, we have reduced the income requirement for the 2020 and 2021 tax years. We’ll apply the reduced income requirement when we assess the sponsorship application, and at any point when we have to reassess income from 2020 or 2021. This does not affect the income requirements for the years before 2020.
 

happyCanadian

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I know many people may have asked but I still need to put here as this year everything online, the old guide may not be applicable.
I am a primary sponsor, co-signed with my husband for my parents, I have a younger sister, adult, working, divorced in home country will not come.
My questions:
1. 0008 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
2. 5406 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
3. 5669 form: Do I need add my sister?

If someone has submitted the application online and also confirmed please let me know. As some forms are used for both sponsoring SPOUSE and PGP purposes, they may be interpreted differently.
1. 0008 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
No
2. 5406 form: Do I need add my sister and myself?
Not a separate forms, but you two must be listed on "Section B: Children" of both of your parents
3. 5669 form: Do I need add my sister?
No

My answers above are based on the reading and understanding of, but not limited to these, below mentioned official documents

How to complete immigration forms for paper applications
Guide 5772 – Application to Sponsor Parents and Grandparents

Moreover, I assumed that your sister does not fall under any below mentioned Dependent type

Dependant type
Type A


The dependant is under the age of 22 and single (not married and not in a common-law relationship).

Type B (Important: This dependant type applies only if your child’s age was locked in before August 1, 2014)

The dependant has been continuously enrolled in and in attendance as a full-time student at a post-secondary institution accredited by the relevant government authority and has depended substantially on the financial support of a parent since before the age of 22.

Type C

The dependant is 22 years of age or older, has depended substantially on the financial support of a parent since before the age of 22, and is unable to provide for themselves because of a medical condition.
 

alexpolis007

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Judging from the date CIC made announcement https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada/family-sponsorship/sponsor-parents-grandparents/selected.html

I think we still have until Wednesday this week, but not 100% sure. Last year the draw closed 2 days before deadline if I remember correctly
that's right.. they take a few days to provide that tool as well; where were can see what confirmation number got invited and which ones didn't.. i don't hear anyone here or on Facebook with new invites.. guess that tool might be out in a day or 2
 

yourfather

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You would have never qualified to be in the draw for 2020, 2021 or 2022 if you had not met LICO for 2017, 2018 or 2019. So yes if you are in the 2022 draw you needed to meet LICO for 2017, 2018 and 2019. Will IRCC enforce the rule for 2O17, 2018 or 2019.? Unsure, but they could.
Yes you are correct and the (2020-Unqualified) applicant never received an ITA in 2020. For PGP IRCC 'DOES NOT FOLLOW A FCFS POLICY', emphasizing this point because, the (2020-Unqualified) applicant only GOT INTO THE POOL in 2020, IRCC has every right to not sent an ITA in 2020, which IRCC didnt and the selection criteria is a total grey area. Now in 2022 the said applicant is fully qualified and receives an ITA.

Same as applicants in Express Entry pool who redo IELTS and update their profile, gain more points under the same profile and receive ITA. So ideally that applicant would have never qualified for that ITA draw at the time he/she entered the pool.
 
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