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Parents and Grandparents Sponsorship 2019

jmjmjmjm

Star Member
Oct 16, 2011
58
16
Category........
Visa Office......
Manila
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
March 23, 2015
AOR Received.
April 22, 2015
File Transfer...
May 25, 2015
Med's Done....
February 2015
Passport Req..
June 10, 2015 passport sent to CEM Sept. 4, 2015
Hi, I am still in shock and not sure how to proceed.

I applied to sponsor my mom and dad under PGP 2019. They already completed biometrics and submitted police clearance, no medical request yet.

My mom received a procedural fairness letter stating my mom may not meet the requirements because they found out she applied for US B1/B2 Tourist visa back in 1997 and it was not declared on Schedule A.

My mom was refused for a Canadian tourist visa in the past, 3 times, and also got refused a working visa in US in 1997. All of this were declared on the PR application, except the B1/B2. My mom said she couldn't remember applying for a US tourist visa which appearto have happened to be around the same time she applied for a working visa, that was back in 1997. Her old passport has stamps of H1B1 applications with dates but nothing with B1/B2.

Side note, my mom applied for a tourist visa to Canada 4x, on her 4th application, she was issued with a supervisa. On that application, we declared as well the 3 refusals to TRV and a US work visa refusal but, nothing was mentioned about B1/B2.

———Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) provides that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or any other document required by the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations. The visa or document may be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of the Act.
I have concerns that you have not fulfilled the requirement put upon you by subsection 16(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act which states:
16(1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonable requires.
Specifically, I have concerns that you did not answer all questions truthfully. You disclosed previous visitor visas (Canada) refusals and a US visa refusal, which were considered. However, it appears you were refused a B1/B2 (Visitor for Business and Pleasure) visa at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Philippines, on 5 December 1997, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 212(a)(6)(E)(i) – Smugglers.
According to the information stated above, your answer to question 4d) of the Background / declaration (Schedule A) is incomplete.
Please note that if it is found that you have engaged in misrepresentation in submitting your application for a permanent residence, you may be found to be inadmissible under section 40(1)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. A finding of such inadmissibility would render you inadmissible to Canada for a period of five (5) years according to section 40(2)(a):

-2-
40(1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation
(a) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act
40(2) (a) specifies that the permanent resident or the foreign national continues to be inadmissible for misrepresentation for a period of five years following, in the case of a determination outside Canada, a final determination of inadmissibility under subsection (1). Subsection 40(3) specifies that a foreign national who is inadmissible under this section may not apply for permanent resident status during the period referred to in paragraph (2)(a).
I would like to provide you with the opportunity to respond to this information. Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 30 days of the date of this letter. If you do not respond to this request within the period indicated, your application will be assessed based on the information currently on file and may result in the refusal of your application.———-
 

ZOYAMAN13

Hero Member
Apr 11, 2017
494
482
Hey guys

This is confusing

Even though i submitted 3 times pcc and travel form without request and along with request. Yesterday i submitted again and this morning there's a message in gckey in the upload document section. It says replacement needed police certificates(multiple) required! And supplementary information -your tarvels required!


Note- This is only requested for pa (my dad) when i scroll down in my mom and bother section it says no docs required.


Note - My dad had never travelled anywhere outside India. And all of the pccs are from January 14 2020.

Can someone please help what am i supposed to upload there? It says replacement needed for pcc
 

salmunsu

Star Member
Apr 17, 2015
151
40
Hi, I am still in shock and not sure how to proceed.

I applied to sponsor my mom and dad under PGP 2019. They already completed biometrics and submitted police clearance, no medical request yet.

My mom received a procedural fairness letter stating my mom may not meet the requirements because they found out she applied for US B1/B2 Tourist visa back in 1997 and it was not declared on Schedule A.

My mom was refused for a Canadian tourist visa in the past, 3 times, and also got refused a working visa in US in 1997. All of this were declared on the PR application, except the B1/B2. My mom said she couldn't remember applying for a US tourist visa which appearto have happened to be around the same time she applied for a working visa, that was back in 1997. Her old passport has stamps of H1B1 applications with dates but nothing with B1/B2.

Side note, my mom applied for a tourist visa to Canada 4x, on her 4th application, she was issued with a supervisa. On that application, we declared as well the 3 refusals to TRV and a US work visa refusal but, nothing was mentioned about B1/B2.

———Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) provides that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or any other document required by the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations. The visa or document may be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of the Act.
I have concerns that you have not fulfilled the requirement put upon you by subsection 16(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act which states:
16(1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonable requires.
Specifically, I have concerns that you did not answer all questions truthfully. You disclosed previous visitor visas (Canada) refusals and a US visa refusal, which were considered. However, it appears you were refused a B1/B2 (Visitor for Business and Pleasure) visa at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Philippines, on 5 December 1997, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 212(a)(6)(E)(i) – Smugglers.
According to the information stated above, your answer to question 4d) of the Background / declaration (Schedule A) is incomplete.
Please note that if it is found that you have engaged in misrepresentation in submitting your application for a permanent residence, you may be found to be inadmissible under section 40(1)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. A finding of such inadmissibility would render you inadmissible to Canada for a period of five (5) years according to section 40(2)(a):

-2-
40(1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation
(a) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act
40(2) (a) specifies that the permanent resident or the foreign national continues to be inadmissible for misrepresentation for a period of five years following, in the case of a determination outside Canada, a final determination of inadmissibility under subsection (1). Subsection 40(3) specifies that a foreign national who is inadmissible under this section may not apply for permanent resident status during the period referred to in paragraph (2)(a).
I would like to provide you with the opportunity to respond to this information. Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 30 days of the date of this letter. If you do not respond to this request within the period indicated, your application will be assessed based on the information currently on file and may result in the refusal of your application.———-
Oh wow, which visa office was this? This is pretty scary. Stay strong! Definitely send a support letter explaining the situation.
 

salmunsu

Star Member
Apr 17, 2015
151
40
Can someone please help what am i supposed to upload there? It says replacement needed for pcc
I just uploaded it to PCC, eMedical forms and Marriage certificate via myCIC and it currently shows this.

Action Required (Not sure why because I provided the documents already based on the 2nd link in this post below, Possibly because they have not received medical yet?):
https://ibb.co/2kTy2C2

Replacement Provided:
https://ibb.co/DC1WrGH

I would recommend emailing the VO. London usually gets back in a day.
 

abb12

Full Member
Jun 26, 2019
45
20
Hi Abb12,
I also found that my parents PA is changed to Decision made but don't know when. Where can I find date? I dont get it from ECAS. Please help me.
Kwinkal
you cannot get DM date . there is no any update in myCIC or Ecas for Statust change from IP to DM.
to get DM date you have to check Ecas ones a day to know when it change from IP to DM. .

In ecas, you can check for additional line - "We started processing on Feb XX", it might give you some idea.
 

canuck78

VIP Member
Jun 18, 2017
55,587
13,519
Hi, I am still in shock and not sure how to proceed.

I applied to sponsor my mom and dad under PGP 2019. They already completed biometrics and submitted police clearance, no medical request yet.

My mom received a procedural fairness letter stating my mom may not meet the requirements because they found out she applied for US B1/B2 Tourist visa back in 1997 and it was not declared on Schedule A.

My mom was refused for a Canadian tourist visa in the past, 3 times, and also got refused a working visa in US in 1997. All of this were declared on the PR application, except the B1/B2. My mom said she couldn't remember applying for a US tourist visa which appearto have happened to be around the same time she applied for a working visa, that was back in 1997. Her old passport has stamps of H1B1 applications with dates but nothing with B1/B2.

Side note, my mom applied for a tourist visa to Canada 4x, on her 4th application, she was issued with a supervisa. On that application, we declared as well the 3 refusals to TRV and a US work visa refusal but, nothing was mentioned about B1/B2.

———Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) provides that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or any other document required by the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations. The visa or document may be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of the Act.
I have concerns that you have not fulfilled the requirement put upon you by subsection 16(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act which states:
16(1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonable requires.
Specifically, I have concerns that you did not answer all questions truthfully. You disclosed previous visitor visas (Canada) refusals and a US visa refusal, which were considered. However, it appears you were refused a B1/B2 (Visitor for Business and Pleasure) visa at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Philippines, on 5 December 1997, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 212(a)(6)(E)(i) – Smugglers.
According to the information stated above, your answer to question 4d) of the Background / declaration (Schedule A) is incomplete.
Please note that if it is found that you have engaged in misrepresentation in submitting your application for a permanent residence, you may be found to be inadmissible under section 40(1)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. A finding of such inadmissibility would render you inadmissible to Canada for a period of five (5) years according to section 40(2)(a):

-2-
40(1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation
(a) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act
40(2) (a) specifies that the permanent resident or the foreign national continues to be inadmissible for misrepresentation for a period of five years following, in the case of a determination outside Canada, a final determination of inadmissibility under subsection (1). Subsection 40(3) specifies that a foreign national who is inadmissible under this section may not apply for permanent resident status during the period referred to in paragraph (2)(a).
I would like to provide you with the opportunity to respond to this information. Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 30 days of the date of this letter. If you do not respond to this request within the period indicated, your application will be assessed based on the information currently on file and may result in the refusal of your application.———-
Would suggest getting a lawyer’s help.
 

JATT_PUNJABI

Star Member
Dec 1, 2011
127
1
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
  1. NDVO Application status
  2. Local VO timeline

Please tag @YULIA-2016 @robertp @laxsun @jayeshaminnew @serious_cheese to add / update your info in tracker
  • Line # in tracker: if applicable
  • Sponsored People: MOTHER
  • Parents Country of Citizenship: INDIA
  • Sponsor Province: ONTARIO
  • Invitations Receive Date: 26 April 2019
  • Application received in Ottawa Date: 11 May, 2019
  • AoR Received (DATE): 4 JUNE
  • Ecas Status for Sponsorship Application: APPROVED
  • Ecas Status for PR Application. IN PROCESS
  • Sponsorship In process Date:
  • Sponsorship Decision Made Date:
  • Local Visa Office : NDVO
  • Biometric request :
  • MyCIC update:
  • IME request date : 28 August
  • IME Passed date: 8 September
  • PCC request: Sep 27, 2019 and 20 Feb, 2020
  • Additional document / travel history request date : Nov 4
  • PR decision made date :
  • PPR date :
  • Comment / additional information :
 

blueGanimed

Member
Jun 15, 2019
13
0
Hi,

Does anyone know how long it takes to receive the passport from Ottawa when you are in Canada and you got PPR?
After Ottawa confirms receiving the passport.
 

robertp

VIP Member
Jan 29, 2019
3,337
1,260
Canada
what is your In process date as per Ecas?
DM date?
Bio Date?

Que: what is your Local VO name as per Sponsorship Approval letter? it was CPC-M?

as per my understanding your PR file transfer from CPC-M to NDVO. 27 Sept you got PCC from CPC-M as a batch request. many other got on same date.
ones NDVO start processing your application 1. 2 Feb 20 2020 they sent you again PCC request.
check your PR ecas you will get new In process date. that is different then Sponsorship Application In process date
 

galaxyman

Full Member
Oct 10, 2019
43
23
Hello,
Question about biometrics. This was done on Feb 7, and myCIC shows
  • Biometrics:
    • Biometrics Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    • Date of Biometrics Enrolment: February 7, 2020
    • Expiry Date: February 7, 2030
Does this mean that the biometrics have been completed, or could they come back and ask for a repeat biometric/fingerprint collection?
 

robertp

VIP Member
Jan 29, 2019
3,337
1,260
Canada
Hello,
Question about biometrics. This was done on Feb 7, and myCIC shows
  • Biometrics:
    • Biometrics Number: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
    • Date of Biometrics Enrolment: February 7, 2020
    • Expiry Date: February 7, 2030
Does this mean that the biometrics have been completed, or could they come back and ask for a repeat biometric/fingerprint collection?
That means bio completed.
 
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bdidol

Champion Member
Jun 2, 2019
2,036
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Hi, I am still in shock and not sure how to proceed.

I applied to sponsor my mom and dad under PGP 2019. They already completed biometrics and submitted police clearance, no medical request yet.

My mom received a procedural fairness letter stating my mom may not meet the requirements because they found out she applied for US B1/B2 Tourist visa back in 1997 and it was not declared on Schedule A.

My mom was refused for a Canadian tourist visa in the past, 3 times, and also got refused a working visa in US in 1997. All of this were declared on the PR application, except the B1/B2. My mom said she couldn't remember applying for a US tourist visa which appearto have happened to be around the same time she applied for a working visa, that was back in 1997. Her old passport has stamps of H1B1 applications with dates but nothing with B1/B2.

Side note, my mom applied for a tourist visa to Canada 4x, on her 4th application, she was issued with a supervisa. On that application, we declared as well the 3 refusals to TRV and a US work visa refusal but, nothing was mentioned about B1/B2.

———Your application and all of the documents you submitted in support of it have been reviewed and it appears that you may not meet the requirements for immigration to Canada.
Subsection 11(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA) provides that a foreign national must, before entering Canada, apply to an officer for a visa or any other document required by the Immigration and Refugee Protection Regulations. The visa or document may be issued if, following an examination, the officer is satisfied that the foreign national is not inadmissible and meets the requirements of the Act.
I have concerns that you have not fulfilled the requirement put upon you by subsection 16(1) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act which states:
16(1) A person who makes an application must answer truthfully all questions put to them for the purpose of the examination and must produce a visa and all relevant evidence and documents that the officer reasonable requires.
Specifically, I have concerns that you did not answer all questions truthfully. You disclosed previous visitor visas (Canada) refusals and a US visa refusal, which were considered. However, it appears you were refused a B1/B2 (Visitor for Business and Pleasure) visa at the U.S. Embassy in Manila, Philippines, on 5 December 1997, under the Immigration and Nationality Act, section 212(a)(6)(E)(i) – Smugglers.
According to the information stated above, your answer to question 4d) of the Background / declaration (Schedule A) is incomplete.
Please note that if it is found that you have engaged in misrepresentation in submitting your application for a permanent residence, you may be found to be inadmissible under section 40(1)(a) of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act. A finding of such inadmissibility would render you inadmissible to Canada for a period of five (5) years according to section 40(2)(a):

-2-
40(1) A permanent resident or a foreign national is inadmissible for misrepresentation
(a) for directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter that induces or could induce an error in the administration of this Act
40(2) (a) specifies that the permanent resident or the foreign national continues to be inadmissible for misrepresentation for a period of five years following, in the case of a determination outside Canada, a final determination of inadmissibility under subsection (1). Subsection 40(3) specifies that a foreign national who is inadmissible under this section may not apply for permanent resident status during the period referred to in paragraph (2)(a).
I would like to provide you with the opportunity to respond to this information. Any evidence or submissions which you or your sponsor may wish to submit to this office for consideration in response to the concerns identified above must be received at our office within 30 days of the date of this letter. If you do not respond to this request within the period indicated, your application will be assessed based on the information currently on file and may result in the refusal of your application.———-
You need to clarify with strong reasoning why this info was not added. You should check with a lawyer to prepare this response.