+1(514) 937-9445 or Toll-free (Canada & US) +1 (888) 947-9445

Paralegal and Related Occupations Questions (NOC 4211)

Guy293

Star Member
Jan 8, 2017
179
4
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
20-04-2017
Hi Guys,

So in Israel, once you complete your Bachelor's Degree in law, in order to become a certified lawyer you must work one year in a law firm.
The work you do there is very similar to the "main duties" of NOC 4211 (Paralegal and Related Occupations), and the employment requirements are met (Bachelor's of law).
For example, these are the main duties according to the NOC:

• Assist lawyers by interviewing clients, witnesses and other related parties, assembling documentary evidence, preparing trial briefs, and arranging for trials;
• Assist lawyers in preparation for mediation and judicial dispute resolutions;
• Under the supervision of a lawyer, prepare wills, real estate transactions and other legal documents, court reports and affidavits;.
• Research records, court files and other legal documents;
• Draft legal correspondence and perform general office and clerical duties.

and this is what I did:

• Assist lawyers in preparation for negotiations
• Draft corporate transactions, commercial contracts and agreements and other legal documents, including official reports to various governmental registrars.
• Research records, court files and other legal documents;
• Draft legal correspondence and perform general office and clerical duties;

However, since my job is was not a "Paralegal" per se (there is no such profession in Israel, that's why I chose the employment letter to read I worked as a "corporate law clerk"), and it was job I had to take in order to be a lawyer (same procedure as in Canada, btw), I'm worried it might be seemed as a apprenticeship which provides no points, or maybe a different NOC. What do you guys think?

Thanks!
 

Alexios07

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2015
1,002
136
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Guy293 said:
Hi Guys,

So in Israel, once you complete your Bachelor's Degree in law, in order to become a certified lawyer you must work one year in a law firm.
The work you do there is very similar to the "main duties" of NOC 4211 (Paralegal and Related Occupations), and the employment requirements are met (Bachelor's of law).
For example, these are the main duties according to the NOC:

• Assist lawyers by interviewing clients, witnesses and other related parties, assembling documentary evidence, preparing trial briefs, and arranging for trials;
• Assist lawyers in preparation for mediation and judicial dispute resolutions;
• Under the supervision of a lawyer, prepare wills, real estate transactions and other legal documents, court reports and affidavits;.
• Research records, court files and other legal documents;
• Draft legal correspondence and perform general office and clerical duties.

and this is what I did:

• Assist lawyers in preparation for negotiations
• Draft corporate transactions, commercial contracts and agreements and other legal documents, including official reports to various governmental registrars.
• Research records, court files and other legal documents;
• Draft legal correspondence and perform general office and clerical duties;

However, since my job is was not a "Paralegal" per se (there is no such profession in Israel, that's why I chose the employment letter to read I worked as a "corporate law clerk"), and it was job I had to take in order to be a lawyer (same procedure as in Canada, btw), I'm worried it might be seemed as a apprenticeship which provides no points, or maybe a different NOC. What do you guys think?

Thanks!
Job Description is more important than Job Title.

How about you change the job title to "Legal Assistant" (NOC 1242) and explain about it bit more in the LoE?
 

Guy293

Star Member
Jan 8, 2017
179
4
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
AOR Received.
20-04-2017
thanks for the advice, but "Legal administrative assistants" does administrative jobs, filing and sorting and scheduling meetings, I did non of those, my work was pure legal work...
 

jes_ON

VIP Member
Jun 22, 2009
12,088
1,421
Category........
Visa Office......
New York
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-May-2010
AOR Received.
13-Aug-2010
File Transfer...
01-Mar-2011
Passport Req..
30-Jun-2011
VISA ISSUED...
12-Jul-2011 (received 25-Jul-2011)
LANDED..........
03-Sep-2011
Guy293 said:
Hi Guys,

So in Israel, once you complete your Bachelor's Degree in law, in order to become a certified lawyer you must work one year in a law firm....
However, since my job is was not a "Paralegal" per se (there is no such profession in Israel, that's why I chose the employment letter to read I worked as a "corporate law clerk"), and it was job I had to take in order to be a lawyer (same procedure as in Canada, btw), I'm worried it might be seemed as a apprenticeship which provides no points, or maybe a different NOC. What do you guys think?
Not sure why you think "apprenticeship" provides no points, but anyway...

Possibly you should use 4112 (Lawyers), because, apparently in Canada, there's a similar requirement that law school graduates complete a term (8 months, I think) as an "articling student" before they can become licensed to practice. And "Articling law student" is clearly included under 4112.

I don't think it would be different from other professions like physician - they complete med school and have to work as an intern/resident for a specified period of time to get a license. Their NOC is the same as physician.
 

athwalkaur

Member
Mar 11, 2015
13
16
Hi Guys,

So in Israel, once you complete your Bachelor's Degree in law, in order to become a certified lawyer you must work one year in a law firm.
The work you do there is very similar to the "main duties" of NOC 4211 (Paralegal and Related Occupations), and the employment requirements are met (Bachelor's of law).
For example, these are the main duties according to the NOC:

• Assist lawyers by interviewing clients, witnesses and other related parties, assembling documentary evidence, preparing trial briefs, and arranging for trials;
• Assist lawyers in preparation for mediation and judicial dispute resolutions;
• Under the supervision of a lawyer, prepare wills, real estate transactions and other legal documents, court reports and affidavits;.
• Research records, court files and other legal documents;
• Draft legal correspondence and perform general office and clerical duties.

and this is what I did:

• Assist lawyers in preparation for negotiations
• Draft corporate transactions, commercial contracts and agreements and other legal documents, including official reports to various governmental registrars.
• Research records, court files and other legal documents;
• Draft legal correspondence and perform general office and clerical duties;

However, since my job is was not a "Paralegal" per se (there is no such profession in Israel, that's why I chose the employment letter to read I worked as a "corporate law clerk"), and it was job I had to take in order to be a lawyer (same procedure as in Canada, btw), I'm worried it might be seemed as a apprenticeship which provides no points, or maybe a different NOC. What do you guys think?

Thanks!
Hii, What NOC use ended up choosing?
 

Arun1kumar

Newbie
Dec 11, 2019
2
0
My question is pertaining to this question - Some jobs are regulated in Canada. You would need a license or certification to practice these jobs. Do you know if your primary occupation or trade is regulated? (required) .
The options are yes, no and I don't know.

My NOC is Paralegal 4211. I don't have a license or certificate for paralegal in Canada as yet (License is required only for Ontario).

If I mark yes, an entailing question comes as to what actions have I taken for the license so far, there is no option as 'no action' if I have not taken any. Could someone advise what should I mark in this case?