Paid Vacation outside Canada+International Business Trip, Please Clarify!

[Sralf]

Hey all:
I have an urgent issue that I just realized before creating the EE profile under CEC category. Please help me to clarify the following two conditions so that I know when to enter the pool safely.

1. I took a two-week paid vacation to China between Feb.1st to 14th in 2016, will this count to the Canadian working experience? Below is what I found on the CIC website, I am not sure how to interpret the paragraph. It
sounds like any two-week vacation inside Canada is fine but it doesn't say anything about vacation outside Canada.

"An allowance for a reasonable period of vacation time will generally be made in calculating the period of qualifying work experience (e.g., a two-week period of paid vacation leave within a given 52-week period in which the applicant was engaged in qualifying work experience). An allowance for normal vacation time during a period of qualifying work experience cannot be used as a substitute or proxy for meeting the in-Canada element of the work experience requirement (i.e., work experience obtained outside Canada will not be considered as though the applicant had been on a period of vacation in order to be counted as part of the period of in-Canada work experience). While officers will account for a reasonable period of vacation time in calculating the period of qualifying work experience in Canada, each application is considered on its own merits with a final decision based on a review of all the information available to the officer at the time of decision."

2. I was outside Canada for about 17 days with the purpose of business development and customer visit, my employer can provide me with a explanation letter. Is this 17 days included in the 1 year Canadian working experience?

I understand one should always give himself/herself some time after he/she gains 1 year experience. I really want to enter the pool ASAP since there will be likely a CRS surge in May/June once PNP candidates start to get in the pool and get 600 bonus points. I will be standing at 439 once I fulfill the one-year work experience and really don't want to let this opportunity slip away.

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated!

 

[DelPiero07]

1 - Yes it will count.

2 - If this was part of your employment and you still got paid as you would normally then yes, it would count.

 

[Sralf]

1 - Yes it will count.

2 - If this was part of your employment and you still got paid as you would normally then yes, it would count.

Hey Del:
Thanks for the prompt reply and BTW: Your name is a nightmare for me, a German football fan. I still remembered 2006 World cup semi-final Fabio Grosso and DelPieros' goals before the penalty. Such a pain!!!
Back to the question, CIC states that the minimum requirement for CEC is to "have at least 12 months of full-time (or an equal amount in part-time) skilled work experience in Canada in the three years before you apply". It's somewhat blurry to conclude whether I need to be physically present in Canada and I guess this is a "grey area" which they fail to specify clearly on the website. Why do you think it will count?

 

[DelPiero07]

The thing is, there is simply no rule which states that only paid vacations within Canada are accepted when counting Canadian work experience. I can tell you from being in this forum that applicant's have successfully claimed paid vacations as work experience when going back to their home countries.

This work experience is still counted as you are still employed by a Canadian employer and you are still getting paid.

 

[thejkhan]

1 - This is a grey area. Generally you will get away with it.

2 - This will not count under CEC. You were outside Canada and no explanation letter will help.

This work experience is still counted as you are still employed by a Canadian employer and you are still getting paid.

Being employed by a Canadian employer is not "Canadian experience" if the work is done outside Canada.

 

[DelPiero07]

True, after reading his post again I would have to agree with you.

I'm surprised you didn't call me an idiot.

 

[kryt0n]

True, after reading his post again I would have to agree with you.

I'm surprised you didn't call me an idiot.

Idiot

 

[DelPiero07]

You owe me a double double for that

 

[Sralf]

1 - This is a grey area. Generally you will get away with it.

2 - This will not count under CEC. You were outside Canada and no explanation letter will help.

Being employed by a Canadian employer is not "Canadian experience" if the work is done outside Canada.

So basically I can claim that two-week vacation to China but not 17-day business trip?

 

[kryt0n]

You owe me a double double for that

And a Boston cream

 

[thejkhan]

So basically I can claim that two-week vacation to China but not 17-day business trip?

Yeah just work additional 17 days in Canada.

I'm surprised you didn't call me an idiot.

Lol.

 

[Sralf]

You owe me a double double for that

Any predictions for the CRS trend in May/June?

 

[Sralf]

Yeah just work additional 17 days in Canada.

Thanks for the clarification man, any predictions for the CRS trend?

 

[thejkhan]

Thanks for the clarification man, any predictions for the CRS trend?

Don't see why cutoff will not go down further.

 

[Sralf]

Don't see why cutoff will not go down further.

What do you think about the PNP 600 points effect? Seems like ppl hold different opinions on this. Will Cutoff points rebound as soon as PNP candidates get that 600 points?