Outland spouse application what to say at border

[DaiWelsh]

Hi I am UK citizen, Canadian wife and kids, married 17 years+ lived in UK all that time. We are emigrating to Canada in November and my thought is to start an outland application now then enter the country in November while it is still pending. My natural inclination is to tell the border people exactly that, but I cannot find an explicit statement anywhere that this will not cause any issues at the border.

I should not trigger any other red flags, it would only be if they ask "how long do you intend to stay" and I say "forever if my PR application is successful" and that violates the normal visitor rules about them being convinced I intend to leave at the end of my stay?

Obviously I do not want to lie, but I also do not want any risk that I am turned away when we arrive, while my wife, kids, FIL and possessions all sail through?

As an alternative if no-one can answer with confidence is there any way to confirm this explicitly with CIC?

TIA

Dai

 

[saria1]

Hi I am UK citizen, Canadian wife and kids, married 17 years+ lived in UK all that time. We are emigrating to Canada in November and my thought is to start an outland application now then enter the country in November while it is still pending. My natural inclination is to tell the border people exactly that, but I cannot find an explicit statement anywhere that this will not cause any issues at the border.

I should not trigger any other red flags, it would only be if they ask "how long do you intend to stay" and I say "forever if my PR application is successful" and that violates the normal visitor rules about them being convinced I intend to leave at the end of my stay?

Obviously I do not want to lie, but I also do not want any risk that I am turned away when we arrive, while my wife, kids, FIL and possessions all sail through?

As an alternative if no-one can answer with confidence is there any way to confirm this explicitly with CIC?

TIA

Dai

The term you will want to use is "dual intent". It means your coming to stay as a "visitor" while your PR process finishes up, and you are well aware you are to leave the country if your application is denied.

http://www.cba.org/cba/cle/secure_pdf/paper_bart.pdf

 

[DaiWelsh]

The term you will want to use is "dual intent". It means your coming to stay as a "visitor" while your PR process finishes up, and you are well aware you are to leave the country if your application is denied.

Brilliant thank you, in all my googling I had not seen that term but now I know it I can get all sorts of info, isn't it crazy how that works. Thanks again.

 

[deweysmith]

This plan sounds good to me. They may want to assess duty/tax on anything you bring with you, but I don't think it's a problem since your wife can import it all.

 

[Panamai]

The term you will want to use is "dual intent". It means your coming to stay as a "visitor" while your PR process finishes up, and you are well aware you are to leave the country if your application is denied.

http://www.cba.org/cba/cle/secure_pdf/paper_bart.pdf

Thanks for this! I may well need to be familiar with that term in July (assuming I haven't received COPR by then). I'm going back to the US to pick up my kids for a summer visit, so I won't be able to slip back through with my NEXUS card the way I usually do. I was really worried they'd turn me away this time. I think I'll print that pdf out and carry it with me, just in case.

 

[DaiWelsh]

Just for the benefit of future searchers I got in fine, 6 month visitor visa, they asked me almost nothing about me, it was all focused on my Father in Law and getting him landed.