our case is likely to be refused

[grippy]

Hi everyone

We are an inlander applying since June 2011

We are a gay couple. We met on-line in Jul 2010 and chatted thru Msn from which I

have copied over 80 pages of chat log. I did it wrong cause I copy in Word cause at that time I just wanna enjoy reading what we talked to each other

We also have some flirting e-mails from Hotmail.

We are seriously in love. In Oct my Thai boyfriend come to Canada to visit me. After seeing each other, we fell more in love.

In December 2010, we decided to get married.

I come from Chinese family so my parents were mad at that time and denied going to
the ceremony.

I'm from Montreal but we went to get married in Toronto so no picture of them only my friends

 

[grippy]

continued

In June we sent the application form for permanent residence with only 80 pages of chatlog copied from MSN to Microsoft Word.

We got CSQ from Quebec in Nov

Now we are waiting for the first stage approve which seems almost impossible with such week evidence.

and my parents just felt better and accept to meet him.

So we have photos of my husband with my family now.

So we decided to send additional 100 pictures of us together since the marriage and some pic of my husband with myfamily.

We have travel to Niagara falls and back to toronto to celebrate one year wedding. We have travel documents to prove.

We brace for our file being transfered to local office for the interview.

We are ready to prove our relationship.

but my question is I'm not sure if the additional document we will send will help our case

and what additional document I should include.

your advice will be appreciated.

 

[CanadiansWife]

Don't already assume that your case will be refused. As long as your relationship and marriage is genuine, you have nothing to worry about. If they do have any doubts, they should call the sponsored spouse in for an interview to clarify any doubts.

 

[computergeek]

Why do you believe your case is likely to be refused?

You have a reasonable explanation of why your family might not be present (my own husband is Chinese, so I'm well-aware of the social issues around same-sex relationships in Chinese culture.) But you did have friends attend, and you have told your parents - even if they did not attend.

I'm assuming your husband is in Canada with you (hence the inland application) and thus you've been living together for more than a year at this point, further adding legitimacy to the relationship. While your courtship was not that long, there really is no numerical requirement. It's a rational basis test: "given all the evidence, does this appear to be a marriage of convenience?" It doesn't seem likely that you would displease your family simply for a "marriage of convenience".

Of course, since your application was submitted in June 2011 you still have several months to go before they'll even look at the application (CIC website says they are opening applications from February 19, 2011 right now, so it's running approximately 12 months behind.) That means they'll look at your application in June of this year if they continue at the current rate. They would then qualify you as the sponsor (assuming you don't have any of the issues that can cause them to deny you as the sponsor). As I understand it, they do not scrutinize the relationship substantially at this stage. However, over the next 8 months of processing (again current posted time from the CIC website) they would evaluate your partner, including your relationship.

If you are concerned about the original evidence that you submitted, you should collect additional evidence. That way if they ask for an interview, you will have even more documentation. Things like vacation photos together, bank statements, joint lease agreement, letters or affidavits from people in your life that know you, etc. These all lend greater credibility that you have a genuine relationship. After all, that's the only thing that CIC is supposed to care about.

For the sake of analysis, let's suppose they do deny you (now you're looking at March 2013.) Your options at that point would be to request judicial review or to re-file, this time with greater documentation as to your relationship.

Most likely, you'll be fine. It turns out that same-sex marriages have a rather low fraud rate at the present time, and CIC is aware of cultural and societal barriers to same, so your story isn't really so far outside the ordinary.

Good luck with your application!

 

[tintin79]

You will not be refused. My parents didnt come to my wedding either cause they didnt want to come to a cheap city hall wedding but my husband lived with me all bills are in our name, accts in our name, my insurance is him and my kids as beneficiery. I sent 112 photos, if they deny us i'd be shocked. Plus we now have a son together. Just make sure the bills are in both your names accts etc. You'll be fine, dont worry.

 

[grippy]

Thanks you guys for the advice,

Now it's time to tower the document againt.

Fighto