Options for spouse visa

[ADBoy]

Dear All,
This is my first post here. I need to clarify some options regarding my spouse's visa processing.
My PR process is still underway and I have been asked to conduct medical test and submit RPRF. I submitted my documents in Feb 2010 from Abu Dhabi, UAE.
I am hopeful that I will receive my PR soon .
My marital status is still single and most likely my marriage will be in March 2011. Chances of getting married right now, so that my spouse's PR can be processed together, are lame.
So in case my PR comes and I get married after it, what will be the options for sponsoring my wife? I will do the landing in first quarter of 2011.

• I still dont have any job offers from Canada. I am working and doing well here in Abu Dhabi. Is it possible that I can sponsor her without moving to Canada? While working in Abu Dhabi after I have done the landing.
• If not, Is it possible that I goto Canada and while searching for job I sponsor her? or a job offer is a must? I understand, while going through many posts, that tourist visa is out of question but I couldnt come across any post for sponsoring spouse without job offer in Canada.

I am not very well aware of Canadian immegration Rules. Any help in this regard is very much appreciated.
Thanks

 

[canadianwoman]

My marital status is still single and most likely my marriage will be in March 2011. Chances of getting married right now, so that my spouse's PR can be processed together, are lame.
So in case my PR comes and I get married after it, what will be the options for sponsoring my wife? I will do the landing in first quarter of 2011.

• I still dont have any job offers from Canada. I am working and doing well here in Abu Dhabi. Is it possible that I can sponsor her without moving to Canada? While working in Abu Dhabi after I have done the landing.

No, a PR has to be residing in Canada during the sponsorship process.

• If not, Is it possible that I goto Canada and while searching for job I sponsor her? or a job offer is a must?

You can sponsor your spouse even when you do not have a job.
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[ADBoy]

Thanks Canadianwoman for instant reply, I really appreciate.

No, a PR has to be residing in Canada during the sponsorship process.

I understand that sponsoring a spouse has two parts, 1- Me becoming a sponsor and 2- Spouse's PR processing.
So after I have been approved as sponsor by CIC and her PR is still under process, Is it possible that I move back to Abu Dhabi. Or do I have to be in Canada till she gets her PR?

You can sponsor your spouse even when you do not have a job.

In this case which documents will be helpful in undergoing a sure and easy PR process?

Need your enlightment, Thanks.

 

[alpesantezo]

hey! i believe you need to ask further because in you PR you applied as a single person so you cannot be married but the time you get the PR... and also if you dont declare a person onyour PR you cannot sponsor that person he would have to get through the PR process on his own and the processing times are longer.

 

[canadianwoman]

hey! i believe you need to ask further because in you PR you applied as a single person so you cannot be married but the time you get the PR... and also if you dont declare a person onyour PR you cannot sponsor that person he would have to get through the PR process on his own and the processing times are longer.

Yes, ADBoy, this is true. You applied for a PR visa as a single person, so if you get married before you get the PR visa, you have to tell CIC and the visa office and your wife will be added to your application. You said, though, that you didn't think you would be able to do this.
If you get married after you get the PR visa, but before you land in Canada, you must tell CIC and the visa office, and you must tell the border official/immigration officer at the airport or border crossing when you land that your status has changed and you are now married - even if they don't ask you. If you don't, you will never be able to sponsor your wife.
So the best solution is to land in Canada, get your PR, and then go back and marry your girlfriend.

There is another potential problem. Are you living with your girlfriend? If you live with her for one year or more, she is considered your commono-law spouse by Canadian Immigration, and you must tell the visa office and CIC about her. When you land, you must also tell the officer you have a common-law spouse. If you don't, and then you marry her and the visa officer finds out you lived together for a year before you landed, you will not be able to sponsor her.

 

[canadianwoman]

Thanks Canadianwoman for instant reply, I really appreciate.I understand that sponsoring a spouse has two parts, 1- Me becoming a sponsor and 2- Spouse's PR processing.
So after I have been approved as sponsor by CIC and her PR is still under process, Is it possible that I move back to Abu Dhabi. Or do I have to be in Canada till she gets her PR?
In this case which documents will be helpful in undergoing a sure and easy PR process?

You have to stay in Canada until she gets her PR.
The most important thing is to prove you have a genuine relationship. Show evidence from when you first met her up until the application is sent in. Anything that shows your relationship can be used. Photos of the two of you, and of the two of you on outings, trips, and with family and friends; any kind of communication - telephone bills, facebook, emails, Skype, instant messaging, letters and cards (keep the envelopes if they were mailed to prove the date); gifts you gave each other: a photo of the gift, and the receipt; evidence of trips you've taken together; evidence of places you've been together, such as hotel and restaurant receipts, tickets to shows, transportation tickets. You can also get letters, affidavits, or emails from family and friends saying that they believe your relationship is real. Get lots of evidence of your engagement, wedding, and honeymoon: photos, receipts for everything connected with the wedding, a sample of the wedding invitation, a list of the guests, a list of the gifts you received and who gave them to you.

 

[ADBoy]

Thanks for informative replies.
What I have understood is
If I get married before my PR's final approval, my spouse's PR will be processed together, and
If I get married between my final approval for PR and landing, I should in every manner inform CIC, visa office and Border Officials about my changed status else I will not be able to sponsor her for PR.
Q: My marriage will be an arrange marriage and will happen most probably between my PR's final approval and landing. So if I land after I get married and inform all concerned authorities for my changed status, will there be any issues in future for sponsoring her?
Dear Canadianwoman, thanks for a detailed reply for evidence of relationship. Our marriage will be a proper ceremony with many guests and a wedding certificate, attested by our Government. I will try my best to provide pictures, videos, cards, anything available in this regard. I really appreciate for bringing this point.
Q: Is it advisable to inform visa office that I will get married in some time (lets say 3-4 months, I've aleady got a letter for medical test and RPRF) so I want my wife's PR to be processed along with me? Will they consider my request and keep my PRs Final approval on hold or something like this isnt possible at all?
Thanks

 

[canadianwoman]

What I have understood is
If I get married before my PR's final approval, my spouse's PR will be processed together, and
If I get married between my final approval for PR and landing, I should in every manner inform CIC, visa office and Border Officials about my changed status else I will not be able to sponsor her for PR.

Basically that's true. You must tell them, or she will never be approved. But if you get the PR visa, then get married, and tell CIC and the visa office, they will cancel your PR visa, and start reprocessing it with your wife added.

Q: My marriage will be an arrange marriage and will happen most probably between my PR's final approval and landing.

In my opinion, this is the worst time to get married. (See above.) It's better to land in Canada, then marry later and start your sponsorship of your wife; or, get married before you get the PR visa, and have your wife added to your application.

Our marriage will be a proper ceremony with many guests and a wedding certificate, attested by our Government. I will try my best to provide pictures, videos, cards, anything available in this regard.

Arranged marriages are fine for sponsoring your spouse. Make sure everything is done according to your traditions.

Q: Is it advisable to inform visa office that I will get married in some time (lets say 3-4 months, I've aleady got a letter for medical test and RPRF) so I want my wife's PR to be processed along with me? Will they consider my request and keep my PRs Final approval on hold or something like this isnt possible at all?

Yes, it is a good idea to tell the visa office about your plans, and ask for their advice.

 

[ADBoy]

But if you get the PR visa, then get married, and tell CIC and the visa office, they will cancel your PR visa, and start reprocessing it with your wife added.

Interesting, so this means that if I'll get married between PR's approval and landing, my PR will be cancelled and re-processing will be done along with my wife's application. Bottom line: considerable delay and uncertainity wrt approval?
I will write to visa office and ask for their official advice on this.
Most probably and as you suggested, I will plan my marriage after my landing and sponsor my spouse from Canada.
Thanks canadianwoman for your help.
I really appreciate.

 

[alpesantezo]

ADBoy
hi.. im here just to make sure you read the part on my answer saying that if your future wife is not on the PR application you cannot sponsorship her... even as a common law realtionship if she is not mentioned on your previous papers she wont be accepted.
Other thing if you sent your PR papers lets say on may and you already have beenon a relationship with her is gonna be a problem cause you didnt declare the relationship on the PR.... is worsth if you are in a common law.. that means living together more than 3 years .. and you didnt wrote her name down.... they wont accept you application... i guess you are gonna need to tell the hole story of the relationship and timing of the application so the visa office or anyone can give you a good answer for your problem

 

[canadianwoman]

Other thing if you sent your PR papers lets say on may and you already have beenon a relationship with her is gonna be a problem cause you didnt declare the relationship on the PR.... is worsth if you are in a common law.. that means living together more than 3 years ..

For sponsorship purposes, you are in a common-law relationship after living together for one year.
ADBoy's marriage is an arranged one, though, so I doubt they are living together.

 

[ADBoy]

Dear alpesantezo,
I have never lived my future wife and we are only committed with a long distance relationship. I dont think such a relationship can be mentioned in immigration forms. We will get married in sometime and then I can update my status as married. If my PR has not come by then, Ill send her docs to be processed with mine; or if my PR has come, Ill do my landing and then get married and sponsor her from Canada.
Hope my understanding is clear.

Dear canadianwoman,
You are right. We arent living together.